Is Jeff Walz a good investment?

#51
#51
I don’t think being concerned about a $10 million investment in a coach ‘nitpicking’.

volman128 said:
We just came off the worst season in school history and we are going to nitpick about a #1 seed losing to UConn in the Elite 8? Ok.

Wish fans had been that nitpicky with Holly when the warning signs that she wouldn't cut it have been there from the start.

Regardless, it won't be Walz so everyone should just leave it alone. Our focus should be with us not getting stuck with Kellie, TBH. The more I think about the scenario the more I believe she isn't the answer, even among former LVs.
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#53
#53
He is by far the best choice out there out of realistic choices that have had long term success as a HC. It's not even close. That was my point.

If you don't want Walz you don't want anyone if we're talking about team and coaching success.

You can't really whine about a coach not making a FF when said coach has been to three FFs in the timespan when your program last got to one.
 
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EarlVolFan said:
How did that work out for Texas with Gail Goestenkors?
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I don't know GG's frame of mind
That was years ago
she may have been on her way to mentally retiring when the TX thing came up
I studied the game, not the game's people then
Only now have I smartened up enough to know my foe, too
 
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#57
In 2007, Texas gave Gale Goestenkors a 7 year contract, with a starting salary of $1.25 million.

She looked like great hire...How did that work out for them?!

Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Duke (ACC) (1992–2007)
1992–93 Duke 12–15 3–13 9th
1993–94 Duke 16–11 7–9 5th
1994–95 Duke 22–9 10–6 4th NCAA Second Round
1995–96 Duke 26–7 12–4 2nd NCAA Second Round
1996–97 Duke 19–11 9–7 T–3rd NCAA Second Round
1997–98 Duke 24–8 13–3 1st NCAA Elite Eight
1998–99 Duke 29–7 15–1 1st NCAA Runner-Up
1999–00 Duke 28–6 12–4 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2000–01 Duke 30–4 13–3 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2001–02 Duke 31–4 16–0 1st NCAA Final Four
2002–03 Duke 35–2 16–0 1st NCAA Final Four
2003–04 Duke 30–4 15–1 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2004–05 Duke 31–5 12–2 T–1st NCAA Elite Eight
2005–06 Duke 31–4 12–2 T–2nd NCAA Runner-Up
2006–07 Duke 32–2 14–0 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
Duke: 396–99 (.800) 179–55 (.765)

Texas (Big 12) (2007–2012)
2007–08 Texas 22–13 7–9 T–7th NCAA Second Round
2008–09 Texas 21–12 8-8 6th NCAA First Round
2009–10 Texas 22–11 10-6 T-4th NCAA First Round
2010–11 Texas 19–14 7-9 7th NCAA First Round
2011–12 Texas 18–14 8-10 8th NCAA First Round
Texas: 102–64 (.614) 40-42 (.488)

Total: 498–163 (.753)
 
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#58
#58
I'm back and forth on Walz but was pretty impressed with his team today. They fought hard in a road environment and definitely couldve won if UCONN didnt rain 3s.
 
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EarlVolFan said:
In 2007, Texas gave Gale Goestenkors a 7 year contract, with a starting salary of $1.25 million.

She looked like great hire...How did that work out for them?!

Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Duke (ACC) (1992–2007)
1992–93 Duke 12–15 3–13 9th
1993–94 Duke 16–11 7–9 5th
1994–95 Duke 22–9 10–6 4th NCAA Second Round
1995–96 Duke 26–7 12–4 2nd NCAA Second Round
1996–97 Duke 19–11 9–7 T–3rd NCAA Second Round
1997–98 Duke 24–8 13–3 1st NCAA Elite Eight
1998–99 Duke 29–7 15–1 1st NCAA Runner-Up
1999–00 Duke 28–6 12–4 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2000–01 Duke 30–4 13–3 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2001–02 Duke 31–4 16–0 1st NCAA Final Four
2002–03 Duke 35–2 16–0 1st NCAA Final Four
2003–04 Duke 30–4 15–1 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2004–05 Duke 31–5 12–2 T–1st NCAA Elite Eight
2005–06 Duke 31–4 12–2 T–2nd NCAA Runner-Up
2006–07 Duke 32–2 14–0 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
Duke: 396–99 (.800) 179–55 (.765)

Texas (Big 12) (2007–2012)
2007–08 Texas 22–13 7–9 T–7th NCAA Second Round
2008–09 Texas 21–12 8-8 6th NCAA First Round
2009–10 Texas 22–11 10-6 T-4th NCAA First Round
2010–11 Texas 19–14 7-9 7th NCAA First Round
2011–12 Texas 18–14 8-10 8th NCAA First Round
Texas: 102–64 (.614) 40-42 (.488)

Total: 498–163 (.753)
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GG wasnt able to recruit as well at Texas and the program was a rebuilding project. Tennessee has a top 10 roster coming back....they just need someone who can actually coach and develop talent.
 
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EarlVolFan said:
In 2007, Texas gave Gale Goestenkors a 7 year contract, with a starting salary of $1.25 million.

She looked like great hire...How did that work out for them?!

Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Duke (ACC) (1992–2007)
1992–93 Duke 12–15 3–13 9th
1993–94 Duke 16–11 7–9 5th
1994–95 Duke 22–9 10–6 4th NCAA Second Round
1995–96 Duke 26–7 12–4 2nd NCAA Second Round
1996–97 Duke 19–11 9–7 T–3rd NCAA Second Round
1997–98 Duke 24–8 13–3 1st NCAA Elite Eight
1998–99 Duke 29–7 15–1 1st NCAA Runner-Up
1999–00 Duke 28–6 12–4 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2000–01 Duke 30–4 13–3 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2001–02 Duke 31–4 16–0 1st NCAA Final Four
2002–03 Duke 35–2 16–0 1st NCAA Final Four
2003–04 Duke 30–4 15–1 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2004–05 Duke 31–5 12–2 T–1st NCAA Elite Eight
2005–06 Duke 31–4 12–2 T–2nd NCAA Runner-Up
2006–07 Duke 32–2 14–0 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
Duke: 396–99 (.800) 179–55 (.765)

Texas (Big 12) (2007–2012)
2007–08 Texas 22–13 7–9 T–7th NCAA Second Round
2008–09 Texas 21–12 8-8 6th NCAA First Round
2009–10 Texas 22–11 10-6 T-4th NCAA First Round
2010–11 Texas 19–14 7-9 7th NCAA First Round
2011–12 Texas 18–14 8-10 8th NCAA First Round
Texas: 102–64 (.614) 40-42 (.488)

Total: 498–163 (.753)
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I'm not really sure what your point is. Do you even have one?
 
#63
#63
EarlVolFan said:
Nick Saban and John Calipari had national championships under the belts...so far that’s been an elusive goal for Walz.
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Calipari had zero and Saban had only 1. And since Walz took over UL, only 4 other teams besides Tennessee and UCONN have won the title. So if that's what you're looking for, you will be disappointed.
 
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EarlVolFan said:
Sorry, but is your comprehension limited to 144 characters?
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Um. No. Is your ability to actually follow up on your point limited in some capacity?

I mean, it's clear you don't want Walz. And that's fine. If not him, then who? And why?
 
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Coach Jumper said:
the point is that she burnt out at Duke
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This thread is about Walz. He's the one that started the thread and I'm sure he remembers that.

I'm not really sure what she has to do w/ Walz and moreover I'm not sure what that has to do with Walz coming to Tennessee. That GG was a sure hire and it turned out badly? Um, ok. And? Once again, if not Walz, then who?
 
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volman128 said:
This thread is about Walz. He's the one that started the thread and I'm sure he remembers that.

I'm not really sure what she has to do w/ Walz and moreover I'm not sure what that has to do with Walz coming to Tennessee. That GG was a sure hire and it turned out badly? Um, ok. And? Once again, if not Walz, then who?
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Walz was an AAU coach

IJS
 
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#74
Good info. Did you type that on your computer, because my fingers would have fallen off have way through the post if I was doing it on my phone.

EarlVolFan said:
In 2007, Texas gave Gale Goestenkors a 7 year contract, with a starting salary of $1.25 million.

She looked like great hire...How did that work out for them?!

Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Duke (ACC) (1992–2007)
1992–93 Duke 12–15 3–13 9th
1993–94 Duke 16–11 7–9 5th
1994–95 Duke 22–9 10–6 4th NCAA Second Round
1995–96 Duke 26–7 12–4 2nd NCAA Second Round
1996–97 Duke 19–11 9–7 T–3rd NCAA Second Round
1997–98 Duke 24–8 13–3 1st NCAA Elite Eight
1998–99 Duke 29–7 15–1 1st NCAA Runner-Up
1999–00 Duke 28–6 12–4 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2000–01 Duke 30–4 13–3 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2001–02 Duke 31–4 16–0 1st NCAA Final Four
2002–03 Duke 35–2 16–0 1st NCAA Final Four
2003–04 Duke 30–4 15–1 1st NCAA Elite Eight
2004–05 Duke 31–5 12–2 T–1st NCAA Elite Eight
2005–06 Duke 31–4 12–2 T–2nd NCAA Runner-Up
2006–07 Duke 32–2 14–0 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen
Duke: 396–99 (.800) 179–55 (.765)

Texas (Big 12) (2007–2012)
2007–08 Texas 22–13 7–9 T–7th NCAA Second Round
2008–09 Texas 21–12 8-8 6th NCAA First Round
2009–10 Texas 22–11 10-6 T-4th NCAA First Round
2010–11 Texas 19–14 7-9 7th NCAA First Round
2011–12 Texas 18–14 8-10 8th NCAA First Round
Texas: 102–64 (.614) 40-42 (.488)

Total: 498–163 (.753)
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#75
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Coach Jumper said:
the point is that she burnt out at Duke
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No, that’s not what happened at all. Goestenkors was at the peak of her career and was consistently successful at the time, and didn’t leave Duke because she was burned out. She left because she was deeply hurt that, despite all that success, Duke made ZERO effort to keep her when Texas came calling with big bucks to lure her to Austin.

GG absolutely did NOT want to leave Duke, but when the Duke AD’s reaction to Texas trying to steal her away was, essentially, “We wish you well in your future endeavors,” she kinda felt like she HAD to go. Many thought that pretty much all Duke really needed to do to keep Gail was to say, “We apppreciate you and really want you to stay!” But nope.

Duke was never the same after that, and Texas was no better off, either, after hiring a coach whose heart never left Durham. Duke’s clear message that they didn’t care one iota about it’s women’s basketball program ended a dynasty.
 
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