Is The 1/6 Commission Coming?

[NorthDallas40]

Happy Insurrection Day fellow traitors!

 

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[Franklin Pierce]

January 6 Figure Ray Epps Sues Fox News for Defamation for Claiming He Was a Federal Provocateur

Ray Epps appears in a promotional video put out by 60 Minutes, 4/21/23. (Credit: 60 Minutes/Twitter)

January 6 “Insurrection” figure and alleged federal provocateur Ray Epps has filed a lawsuit against FoxNews for “defamation.”

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Now lawyers representing Mr. Epps and his wife are proceeding with plans to sue Fox News for defamation. “We informed Fox in March that if they did not issue a formal on-air apology that we would pursue all available avenues to protect the Eppses’ rights,” said Michael Teter, a lawyer for Mr. Epps who sent the network a cease-and-desist letter asking for an on-air apology and a retraction. After Mr. Teter did not hear from Fox about his request, he began to prepare the suit. “That remains our intent.”

Ray Epps started his campaign for a retraction back in March. If you recall, video shows Ray Epps apparently directing the activity of “insurrectionists.”

On January 6, Epps was a highly visible figure in the crowd, bedecked in a MAGA hat, exhorting the crowd to push their way into the Capitol.​

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January 6 Figure Ray Epps Sues Fox News for Defamation for Claiming He Was a Federal Provocateur

 

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[davethevol]

January 6 Figure Ray Epps Sues Fox News for Defamation for Claiming He Was a Federal Provocateur

Ray Epps appears in a promotional video put out by 60 Minutes, 4/21/23. (Credit: 60 Minutes/Twitter)

January 6 “Insurrection” figure and alleged federal provocateur Ray Epps has filed a lawsuit against FoxNews for “defamation.”

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Now lawyers representing Mr. Epps and his wife are proceeding with plans to sue Fox News for defamation. “We informed Fox in March that if they did not issue a formal on-air apology that we would pursue all available avenues to protect the Eppses’ rights,” said Michael Teter, a lawyer for Mr. Epps who sent the network a cease-and-desist letter asking for an on-air apology and a retraction. After Mr. Teter did not hear from Fox about his request, he began to prepare the suit. “That remains our intent.”

Ray Epps started his campaign for a retraction back in March. If you recall, video shows Ray Epps apparently directing the activity of “insurrectionists.”

On January 6, Epps was a highly visible figure in the crowd, bedecked in a MAGA hat, exhorting the crowd to push their way into the Capitol.​

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January 6 Figure Ray Epps Sues Fox News for Defamation for Claiming He Was a Federal Provocateur

That will be interesting, because I doubt FOX would be able to get documents showing he was being paid by the government. The FEDS will block access to that.0

 

[clarksvol00]

That will be interesting, because I doubt FOX would be able to get documents showing he was being paid by the government. The FEDS will block access to that.0

No opinion as to whether he has a case or not, i dont know what the allegations were based upon. If Fox didn't have the basis to substantiate their claims to start with, they should have thought about that before they went on air with stuff they couldn't back up.

 

[RockyTop85]

No opinion as to whether he has a case or not, i dont know what the allegations were based upon. If Fox didn't have the basis to substantiate their claims to start with, they should have thought about that before they went on air with stuff they couldn't back up.

Had the same thought. “News company can’t prove up their reporting when sued” seems like another case of Fox letting the tail wag the dog.

On the flip side is “he worked for the feds” really defamatory if the alternative is trying to overthrow the government?

 

[clarksvol00]

Had the same thought. “News company can’t prove up their reporting when sued” seems like another case of Fox letting the tail wag the dog.

On the flip side is “he worked for the feds” really defamatory if the alternative is trying to overthrow the government?

Not sure how all of this works, but my understanding is that he alleged he received death threats, etc., because of the allegations. I assume Fox could have reasonably assumed that the allegation that this man was a government plant charged with inciting Trump supporters to riot would be negatively received by a significant portion of its viewership. That could have foreseeably resulted in negative consequences for him.

 

[whodeycin85]

Not sure how all of this works, but my understanding is that he alleged he received death threats, etc., because of the allegations. I assume Fox could have reasonably assumed that the allegation that this man was a government plant charged with inciting Trump supporters to riot would be negatively received by a significant portion of its viewership. That could have foreseeably resulted in negative consequences for him.

It is interesting that he is clearly on video encouraging entering the building...he is inciting criminal behavior but received no charges himself

 

[BreatheUT]

It's really rather remarkable that even Biden hasn't come out and said we're going to get to the bottom of this. Low class in the White House.

 

[RockyTop85]

Not sure how all of this works, but my understanding is that he alleged he received death threats, etc., because of the allegations. I assume Fox could have reasonably assumed that the allegation that this man was a government plant charged with inciting Trump supporters to riot would be negatively received by a significant portion of its viewership. That could have foreseeably resulted in negative consequences for him.

I was mostly just commenting on the amusement factor of not being a rioter being a negative.

He’s probably not a public figure, but that standard can be applied loosely. If a judge finds that he’s not a public figure then Fox will probably settle. If they find that he is it may be a closer case. Just my “I haven’t read a thing about this case” prognostication.

Edit: on second thought, assuming he’s not a public figure, it probably depends a lot on what was actually said. It seems like a topic that probably deserves some latitude under the first amendment.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Orangeslice13]

Had the same thought. “News company can’t prove up their reporting when sued” seems like another case of Fox letting the tail wag the dog.

On the flip side is “he worked for the feds” really defamatory if the alternative is trying to overthrow the government?

Interesting point

 

[BowlBrother85]

Had the same thought. “News company can’t prove up their reporting when sued” seems like another case of Fox letting the tail wag the dog.

On the flip side is “he worked for the feds” really defamatory if the alternative is trying to overthrow the government?

Yes, because the conspiracy theory that Tucker Carlson was promoting didn't stop with "he worked for the FBI." Carlson claimed that Ray Epps incited the riot as well .... because he wanted to make the peaceful January 6th protestors appear to have been violent extremists.

It was all about trying to deflect blame for the breach of the Capitol onto either left-wing activists (and there was a separate conspiracy theory which involved Antifa protestors having been responsible as well) ... or onto the government / deep state.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I was mostly just commenting on the amusement factor of not being a rioter being a negative.

You don't understand what Carlson was alleging. Tucker Carlson did accuse Ray Epps of being a rioter. As a matter of fact, Carlson accused Epps of inciting the riot. There is video of Epps encouraging other protestors to go into the Capitol. That is how this theory started.

The difference with Epps, is that Carlson and other right-wingers, accused him of being a part of the riot because he had a left-wing agenda. Carlson claimed that Epps was either an employee of the FBI or an informant for the FBI, who incited the riot because he wanted the "otherwise peaceful January 6th MAGA protestors to be tarnished as violent extremists."

Carlson's agenda here, was to shift blame for the breach of the Capitol on January 6, 2021, from the MAGA crowd to the government. Basically, Carlson wanted his viewers to believe that the riot only resulted because of an FBI plant.

Ray Epps is not a public figure, and it should be easy for him to prove that he never worked for the FBI. There is a great deal of screening done for FBI applicants. Carlson was once again making things up. He did this a lot on Fox News. It's why his ratings were so high.

Fox News will settle with Epps. Probably write him a check for $20 million or so. That's what they would normally pay their sexual harassment accusers.

 

[davethevol]

Yes, because the conspiracy theory that Tucker Carlson was promoting didn't stop with "he worked for the FBI." Carlson claimed that Ray Epps incited the riot as well .... because he wanted to make the peaceful January 6th protestors appear to have been violent extremists.

It was all about trying to deflect blame for the breach of the Capitol onto either left-wing activists (and there was a separate conspiracy theory which involved Antifa protestors having been responsible as well) ... or onto the government / deep state.

He was inciting. It’s clear as day on video.

 

[BowlBrother85]

He was inciting. It’s clear as day on video.

He may have been, but he wasn't doing so for the reasons that Carlson said. Epps was a die hard MAGA member ... not an FBI plant. This is the right wing devouring one of their own.

 

[whodeycin85]

It took some 2 years to indict Epps with video proof evident from day 1.... I'll bet it comes out he was an informant.... Cants wait for ticket to interview the head of DC police whom he did just before fox fired him. That interview reportedly the DC head annoys there was significant FBI presence during J6.

 

[davethevol]

It took some 2 years to indict Epps with video proof evident from day 1.... I'll bet it comes out he was an informant.... Cants wait for ticket to interview the head of DC police whom he did just before fox fired him. That interview reportedly the DC head annoys there was significant FBI presence during J6.

He was definitely something. They’re in a CYA moment. Watch him get arrested and then killed in jail, or die from suicide in the near future;

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Vivek Ramaswamy blames Jan. 6 riot on 'pervasive' censorship

Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy blamed "pervasive" censorship for the Jan. 6 riot.

Speaking with Tucker Carlson at the Family Leadership Summit, Ramaswamy reasoned that the demonstrators were driven to riot after their voices were suppressed.


“What caused Jan. 6 is pervasive censorship in this country in the lead-up to Jan. 6,” he said. “You tell people in this country they cannot speak. That is when they scream. You tell people they cannot scream. That is when they tear things down.”

Vivek Ramaswamy blames Jan. 6 riot on 'pervasive' censorship

 

[clarksvol00]

He was definitely something. They’re in a CYA moment. Watch him get arrested and then killed in jail, or die from suicide in the near future;

He got in bed with the nazi rocket scientists, now he's gonna pay the price.

 

[davethevol]

He got in bed with the nazi rocket scientists, now he's gonna pay the price.

They’re going to force him to read your posts?

 

[clarksvol00]

They’re going to force him to read your posts?

Nah. The powers that be are just making him keep a spreadsheet cataloging all of your conspiracy theories. Have you come up with anything involving the freemasons yet?

 

[CobbVol]

Hopefully the case gets through the discovery phase.

 

[davethevol]

Nah. The powers that be are just making him keep a spreadsheet cataloging all of your conspiracy theories. Have you come up with anything involving the freemasons yet?

No, but thanks for the suggestion! I’ll get right on that.