Is the extortion of an allied country to investigate a political opponent an impeachable offense by the President?

Is the extortion of an allied country to investigate a political opponent an impeachable offense?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 25 61.0%

  • No.

    Votes: 16 39.0%

  • Undecided.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    41
#108
#108
NashVol11 said:
The game isn't the problem, you're just unwilling to answer a question that may not include all the talking points you want. If someone asked "is running a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor a bad thing?" I'd say yes, without needing a bunch of qualifiers about whether it actually happened.
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It certainly is if the kids don’t like pizza.
 
#109
#109
RockyTop85 said:
It does prompt useful discussion.

Like I said, it’s not like people here don’t know what we’re talking about. So it’s reasonable to expect them to be able to say what, if proven, would change their mind.

The only two reasons I can think of to ask the question is because A) I’m genuinely interested in the response or B) to keep people from moving the goalposts later or discredit them if they do.

If you can’t give an honest answer to an open ended question, neither of those things remains relevant. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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A whole lot of people on here are now moving the goalposts from quid pro quo to extortion.
 
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#110
#110
hUTch2002 said:
A whole lot of people on here are now moving the goalposts from quid pro quo to extortion.
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It isn’t even moving the goalposts. It’s the same turd wrapped in different color paper with a new bow. Extortion is just another form of “this for that” with the difference being extortion implies involuntary participation.

It is exactly the same as Russia - Collusion/Conspiracy/yadda yadda and will end in exactly the same fashion.
 
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#117
Rasputin_Vol said:
The Clinton campaign/DNC used a foreign agent from an allied country to get intel on a presidential candidate.
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True. Big BUT though... the DNC used PRIVATE funds to do so, not public funds as Trump did. Further, those providing info to DNC did so willingly, and were not subject to extortion.

End of story.
 
#119
#119
Hunerwadel said:
A tour of greater Cleveland is not on many bucket lists at least not mine.
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The last couple of times I was there it was the dead of winter and there was steam coming out of every crack and crevice of every street and building. Not to mention every car was covered in snow and salt and the people were in a very bad mood, which I was too after a couple of days.
I pegged it the worst place I've ever visited in all of my years with Detroit, Philly and Baltimore slightly behind.
 
#120
#120
MontyPython said:
True. Big BUT though... the DNC used PRIVATE funds to do so, not public funds as Trump did. Further, those providing info to DNC did so willingly, and were not subject to extortion.

End of story.
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Hold on... three questions:

1. So the DNC used "private" funds? Where did those "private" funds come from?
2. When are you claiming that Trump did his alleged deeds?
3. You say the DNC received their info from those that willingly gave it to them. Question, have you heard of "Arkan-cide"?
 
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#122
Rasputin_Vol said:
Hold on... three questions:

1. So the DNC used "private" funds? Where did those "private" funds come from?
2. When are you claiming that Trump did his alleged deeds?
3. You say the DNC received their info from those that willingly gave it to them. Question, have you heard of "Arkan-cide"?
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1. Dunno. People.
2. Trump's efforts extended over at least January. 2019 through September.
3. No. Pretty sure that's a bug control firm in Arkansas.
 
#123
#123
The beauty of this whole charade.

Now it’s “extortion” because “quid pro quo” was still born. So it’s still another form of value exchange but now it’s because Trump forced Zelensky to do it.... and they took this idiot tack AFTER Zelensky is on record stating Ukraine was in no way coerced nor felt pressure.

Yeah... they will totally be able to sell this narrative after quid pro quo was DOA 😂
 
#124
#124
MontyPython said:
1. Dunno. People.
2. Trump's efforts extended over at least January. 2019 through September.
3. No. Pretty sure that's a bug control firm in Arkansas.
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So "private" entities (domestic or foreign) can funnel money through the DNC and in turn the DNC is allowed to use a foreign agent to provide a bogus dossier on a presidential candidate?
 
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