Is the upheaval of college sports—especially football—the comeuppance…

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Golfprovol said:
"My opinion is from knowing pressure has been applied by some important players and their associates for Heupel to make staff changes" so say this in the post instead of making a generational statement that seems like it has zero support. And WHO these important players?
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Maybe someone in the clubhouse or practice the green will inform you.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Who cares about overall recruiting when it's the SEC we play in? They are who we play year in and year out and we are middle of the pack.

Haven't been able to beat bama, Florida, or UGA in their place and in some key positions this year we did out talent Florida and bama. Bama is also falling from their dynasty and back to reality.

We should have NFL receivers if they were being developed. This year should have been squirrel and Bru's year but both disappeared. Brazzel was supposed to be the #1 WR in the portal and disappeared. Nico would get the balls to the players and they would drop them. Two years running now we are blaming QB play and one of them before the season started was supposed to be QB Jesus? Nah I'm not buying that narrative. Bad WR development is the common factor.

You still didn't address my points of where the development at WR and OL Is. I haven't seen it.
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There are on average 35 WR's drafted each year. How many of the 35 WR's should we have each year?

No chance in hell squirrel ever got drafted. Too small and hands are not good enough.
 
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easttnbuck said:
Then make them sign contracts like professional players do. Want an nil.deal l, sign here
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They are not professional and that is what the law specifically points to. Trying to maintain amateur status. May not be successful, but that is the legal attempt. Only way to change it is have the legislature change the law.
 
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FanDude said:
Athletic programs can no longer obligate players to stay with the university. But NIL orgs write contracts, and it is legal for contracts to include time obligations.
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Time obligations to whom? Under current rules I think doing so would be against NCAA rules. I think that’s why there’s no mention of Tennessee or obligation to attend any school in NIL deals.

Although I think there are states pursuing legislation to make it legal for a school to directly pay a players NIL. Ohio for example is one.
 
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If we stop watching…if we stop buying tickets….if we stop showing up….All of this stops if we stop buying in…

I’m as an impressed by the talents of the Mike Matthews of the worlds as anyone on this board…

But if we aren’t there…if we aren’t buying tickets and merchandise and hot dogs and TV subscriptions then all of this ridiculousness stops…

I grew up on this and love this as much as any of you….but if you hate this as much as I do then stop paying for it…

When our revenue stops coming in the value of this drops drastically
 
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CNCVol88 said:
A 6-6 Florida and a 3 loss Alabama at home is not the achievement it used to be. If we would have been competitive in either UGA or OSU games It would be fine but both of those games were embarrassing and I was at the latter. I wasted 100s of dollars right before Christmas to go watch this team look like south Doyle high School. So yeah, it's not good enough and the fact that Kelsey Pope, Glen ellarbee, and Willie Martinez still has jobs baffles me and makes me doubt huepel.

Edit: I'd say the loser mentality is "beating a bad Florida and mid bama team is good enough."

10-2 and an early playoff exit is mark Richt.
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I have been (screaming) this for forever now!

A Bama team that Vandy beat?.?.?.?
 
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Vol8188 said:
There’s plenty of complaining. But what valid reasons do we have? Because we lost a lot of backups?
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I’m not complaining about any one player leaving and I don’t even blame the players for chasing the money while they can. For me, it’s just that the current system is creating apathy for the sport and Tennessee. That’s a red flag because I consider myself a pretty committed fan. The NFL looks a lot more appealing right now
 
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The Original Fade said:
I’m not complaining about any one player leaving and I don’t even blame the players for chasing the money while they can. For me, it’s just that the current system is creating apathy for the sport and Tennessee. That’s a red flag because I consider myself a pretty committed fan. The NFL looks a lot more appealing right now
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What about the system is creating apathy? If we had 22 new starters every year I’d get it.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Well let me put it this way. If the current system is so great, why doesn’t the NFL do it? Free agency for every player after every season. Why don’t they do it that way?
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No one is claiming that’s optimal. I’m claiming you’re overreacting.

I don’t like franchise tags for examples. But my decision to watch the NFL or not, isn’t based on franchise tags.

What does this change for you that’s so significant? That’s what I fail to see. The roster will still be roughly the same the next season. The product is roughly the same. Where’s the great change?
 
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LWSVOL said:
They are not professional and that is what the law specifically points to. Trying to maintain amateur status. May not be successful, but that is the legal attempt. Only way to change it is have the legislature change the law.
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The NIL collectives are also not colleges. They are private entities, not beholden to the SC case

Maybe they will get smart and put large chunks of the $ into escrow which can will be forfeit of the player transfers before x date.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
You mean make them professional athletes and no longer "student athletes?"

You won't be able to make them go to school at pro athletes because you didn't hire them to be students, you hired them to play ball.

That's fine. We can sign a 30yo to play for us. You're good with that?
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I'm not good with any of it anymore tbh and pretty much throwing it at the wall, looking for a Sticky one
 
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easttnbuck said:
The NIL collectives are also not colleges. They are private entities, not beholden to the SC case

Maybe they will get smart and put large chunks of the $ into escrow which can will be forfeit of the player transfers before x date.
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they are beholden to Tennessee state law though. the statue is posted on their web site.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Well let me put it this way. If the current system is so great, why doesn’t the NFL do it? Free agency for every player after every season. Why don’t they do it that way?
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The NFL has a Collective Bargaining Agreement concerning free agency. It's negotiated between the players and the owners.

When colleges start negotiating with the players, things will get better.

Currently, the NCAA primarily negotiates with the courts because the schools sue them whenever they do anything to try to stop the schools from having a free-for-all to pay and obtain players.

It's the schools who have created this, including UT.
 
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Vol8188 said:
No one is claiming that’s optimal. I’m claiming you’re overreacting.

I don’t like franchise tags for examples. But my decision to watch the NFL or not, isn’t based on franchise tags.

What does this change for you that’s so significant? That’s what I fail to see. The roster will still be roughly the same the next season. The product is roughly the same. Where’s the great change?
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Your first sentence concludes the conversation
 
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C-south said:
It would force them to make a difficult decision with actual repercussions. Not sure why the portal and academic transfer window have to be the same.
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Why should one student only be allowed to transfer mid Sept when other students have many more options on when they can transfer.

It's probably a losing argument, if it hasn't already been brought up. I want to say that was part of the reasoning on the NCAA losing a case on limiting transfers earlier this year. Normal students can transfer multiple times without repercussion. Why should football players be treated differently?
 
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C-south said:
The ncaa can’t change nil but they can change the portal bs. Probably not tangible but maybe a rule where if a player enters the portal they must pay back nil money to the school they used to promote their name, image, likeness.
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I’m not sure the NCAA can even establish rules on the portal anymore. The courts have essentially taken all power away from college sports governance.
 
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