Is the upheaval of college sports—especially football—the comeuppance…

Players wouldn’t be prohibited from transferring or signing NIL deals, they just couldn’t sign a deal with another collective.
Yeah, several of the QBs in the CFP are transfers who made bank transferring: Ewers, Riley Leonard, Dillion Gabriel, and more.

They're not going to sign away that ability to market themselves to collectives and transfer for big paydays AND a team built of others who are getting paid by a new collective to transfer in.

It's working fine for the schools that are winning (including UT) and I don't see the players nor the big money schools wanting to give up their edge.
 
Completely ignorant. One of the worst posts I've read tonight. You have zero clue what's going on
Ooh explain cause I need to hear why it's stupid. What's your retort? It's nothing more than an expanded participation trophy. Do you really think Smu, Clemson, ASU, Indiana, Penn state and even us after that arse whipping had even the tiniest of chances? If so you're the completely ignorant one. Best part is there will be even more idiots bragging when it gets expanded to 16 then 24
 
The kids can't play for the team they were invited to play for and given a scholarship to unless they're provided with UT equipment. They have to use the uniform and UT invited them.

When they do private, non UT commercials, they don't wear UT stuff. Even Curry or LeBron, unless the commercial is NBA endorsed, wear generic jerseys.

But you can't make them to wear UT apparel on the field then try to charge them for wearing it.

It’ll find a way to settle down. It can’t be the Wild West forever
It will “settle down” when it dies
 
I don't know what's legal, but I would make it straight professional and have guys sign contracts.

The player has a 3 year contract with player/team options for a 4th/5th year. That player earns "x" amount of dollars per year from Whatsamatta U per season. Outside of that, he/she can earn whatever they are able to from NIL.

There can be clauses for injury, family emergencies, etc. There can also be clauses for player misconduct; missing practice, not staying under a weight limit, not doing offseason workouts, arrests, academic issues, etc.
 
Ooh explain cause I need to hear why it's stupid. What's your retort? It's nothing more than an expanded participation trophy. Do you really think Smu, Clemson, ASU, Indiana, Penn state and even us after that arse whipping had even the tiniest of chances? If so you're the completely ignorant one. Best part is there will be even more idiots bragging when it gets expanded to 16 then 24
Calling reaching the playoffs a participation trophy is one of the worst takes on this board. It's a season goal of every team. Doing it when you can look back to the dead program we were 4yrs ago is even dumber. You're ignorantly using one game to try and make a point when all you're doing is looking like a clown. But don't worry there are several of you really doubling down on the stupid this week
 
No, this is what happens when you ***** about a system and realize why it was set up the way it was in the first place.

It wasn't entirely about greed. And they've only been making money (or at least major money) for the last 50 years or so. NCAA rules were around a lot longer than that.

The "system", as it was, prevented this chaos.

I also can't believe the new system makes academic integrity before all this mess look legitimate by comparison. Even Charles Barkley probably attended class more than these dudes.
 
Ooh explain cause I need to hear why it's stupid. What's your retort? It's nothing more than an expanded participation trophy. Do you really think Smu, Clemson, ASU, Indiana, Penn state and even us after that arse whipping had even the tiniest of chances? If so you're the completely ignorant one. Best part is there will be even more idiots bragging when it gets expanded to 16 then 24

Dude, not a Tennessee fan or anything but Google "Dooley, Derek", "Jones, Butch", and "Pruitt, Jeremy".

You're like, you know, winning games now.
 
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Yeah, several of the QBs in the CFP are transfers who made bank transferring: Ewers, Riley Leonard, Dillion Gabriel, and more.

They're not going to sign away that ability to market themselves to collectives and transfer for big paydays AND a team built of others who are getting paid by a new collective to transfer in.

It's working fine for the schools that are winning (including UT) and I don't see the players nor the big money schools wanting to give up their edge.

Then they stay where they are and get paid. Thats the point. If they want to leave they (their collective) can pay to release them form their current deal and pay them their new deal. Backstabbing the people putting in the money without any recourse isn’t a long term positive business model.
 
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Fix NIL by lowering or capping amounts kids get.

Starters get $2k a game.

Bench gets $500 a game.


This garbage of guys getting $500,000 payouts to sit on their ass while the team loses is peak stupidity.
 
Then they stay where they are and get paid. Thats the point. If they want to leave they (their collective) can pay to release them form their current deal and pay them their new deal. Backstabbing the people putting in the money without any recourse isn’t a long term positive business model.
I can't see the major schools, who are friendly with the collectives that would be paying the buyouts, getting onboard with this.

We're getting transfer players likely by offering better NIL than they had, so why would we want to use collective money to pay a buyout + have to pay that player a new NIL? That just makes the cost of doing business more expensive.

Why would schools like UT who've been pretty successful in the portal want to increase the cost of doing business?
 
I can't see the major schools, who are friendly with the collectives that would be paying the buyouts, getting onboard with this.

We're getting transfer players likely by offering better NIL than they had, so why would we want to use collective money to pay a buyout + have to pay that player a new NIL? That just makes the cost of doing business more expensive.

Why would schools like UT who've been pretty successful in the portal want to increase the cost of doing business?

Schools don’t directly pay collectives.
 
Schools don’t directly pay collectives.
No, but UT is extremely friendly with Spyre and it's in the school's best interest to keep Spyre's cost of doing business lower.

It's inefficient use of money for Spyre to pay buyouts and UT still wants some players who, under your plan, would need a buyout for us to get.

UT has zero incentive to want buyouts. We've gained more by getting players from the the portal than we've lost. Buyouts only decrease the amount of capital Spyre has to get players UT wants.
 
No, but UT is extremely friendly with Spyre and it's in the school's best interest to keep Spyre's cost of doing business lower.

It's inefficient use of money for Spyre to pay buyouts and UT still wants some players who, under your plan, would need a buyout for us to get.

UT has zero incentive to want buyouts. We've gained more by getting players from the the portal than we've lost. Buyouts only decrease the amount of capital Spyre has to get players UT wants.

It’s even more inefficient to watch your money walk away and leave you with nothing in return. There absolutely has to be consequences for the bs going on right now.
 
If the NCAA cannot make rules about NIL to monitor it or control total amounts per teram then college sports is already on the death bed. Fans will tire of the constant changes and team shifting of players every year.
 
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It’s even more inefficient to watch your money walk away and leave you with nothing in return. There absolutely has to be consequences for the bs going on right now.
The issue is that the players have all the power now like the NCAA used to have all the power.

Everything the NCAA does to try to limit NIL or the portal gets them sued by the schools, not the players, the schools.

The major schools like this chaos because they know their money will win more times than it loses. aTm whiffed using money but Oregon, Ohio State, TX, and UT didn't.

Don't look for them to accept changes because it's working for them.
 
WTH are you talking about? I didn’t mention anything about a “better deal” or any of the other stupid s*** you said. I was mentioning what myself and another person spoke about in regards to regulating the mess that is NIL. As is there’s no repercussions for the clown kids and all the risk is on the ones forking out money these wannabes think they deserve. If I’m paying for you to do something and you decide you want to do it for someone else then give me my money back. It’s really a simple concept but I’m not sure you can understand.
That's ignorant. NIL cannot legally be regulated. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
 
If the NCAA cannot make rules about NIL to monitor it or control total amounts per teram then college sports is already on the death bed. Fans will tire of the constant changes and team shifting of players every year.
Bogus. We've been hearing that BS for 6 years and CFB is better off than ever.
 
How do they do it in the pros then ?
Probably governed by the CBA. And even then I doubt anyone would have the capacity to say that player cannot legally be paid that amount. Only it would count against that teams salary cap.

Not sure if this is the section since I'm not up on my legal speak, but it reads like it might be....

NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement

Article 13
Salary Cap Accounting Rules​

Section 4
Definition of “Salary”​


(a)
“Salary” means the compensation in money, property, investments, loans or anything else of value to which an NFL player (including Rookie and Veteran players and players whose contracts have been terminated) or his Player Affiliate is entitled in accordance with a Player Contract, but not including Benefits. Salary with respect to any period shall include all Salary actually payable with respect to such period under the terms of a Player Contract and all Salary attributable to such period under the terms of this Agreement.
(b)
A player’s Salary shall also include any and all consideration received by the player or his Player Affiliate from a Club or Club Affiliate, even if such consideration is ostensibly paid to the player for services other than football playing services, if the NFL can demonstrate before the Impartial Arbitrator that the consideration paid to the player or Player Affiliate for such nonfootball services does not represent a reasonable approximation of the fair market value of such services as performed by such player. The Impartial Arbitrator’s determination may take into account, among other things: (1) any actual dollar amounts the player or Player Affiliate received for similar nonfootball playing services from an independent third party; and (2) the percentage of total compensation for nonfootball services received from third parties versus the Team or Team Affiliate.

 

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