Is Trump constitutionally barred from being POTUS again?

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lawgator1 said:
You mean, like, if they fake claimed to win, and put the screws to the VP to stop the lawful transition of power? Hmmmm...
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Dems are working hard at stealing the 2024 election instead of allowing the people to decide with their votes.
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It appears that way. I wonder where that idea came from? We wouldn't even be in the conversation if there had not been an objection to the people's vote in 2020. Yet here we are and some are still claiming the vote was stolen in 5-6 states... Geez. Pot/kettle = Black.
 
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turbovol said:
Two of them are--and of course he's guilty, just not in a court of law yet. That will come. Why would you pretend that he
didn't engage in an insurrection?
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Its only "insurrection" if the 2020 election was legit - and no, it was not. The process of transition of power putting Biden in is WAS legit however, and thats why they tried to rush that because once it is in place, there really isnt any mechanism to undo it. The process is supposed to take place based on legit election results but oh well.

Same thing with the joke of impeaching Trump for a phone call to Ukraine to investigate corruption by Biden - only to find out that Hunter was indeed raking in money from Ukraine and VP Biden famously bragged that he got the top prosecutor fired. If someone else was using gov resources to spy on a political opponent, that would be wrong - except when the political opponent is ACTUALLY COMMITTING CRIMES.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Dems are working hard at stealing the 2024 election instead of allowing the people to decide with their votes.
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How are they stealing it a year before the election? I would understand your newfound claim of it if it was about election details. Most people like you believe Trump. Of course, no one can find a post of yours before 2016 claiming election fraud. That you might believe the plethora of indictments against Trump are election fraud are crazy, given the fact you know damn well Trump didn't declare until after the raid on Mar-A-Lago last August.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Is this going to work? Is it viable?

I’m past ready for this to be over.
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Haven’t read it yet.

From skimming the first few pages, the state officer tasked with determining whether candidates qualify to be on the ballot would tell Trump he doesn’t qualify. Trump would then have to sue to get on the ballot.

Will Baude is a hell of a lot smarter than me. He’s not Dershowitz or Lawrence Tribe. He does podcasts, but not cable news that I’m aware of. He’s not usually somebody who does frivolous legal/political commentary. His podcasts are super dry technical legal analysis of current Supreme Court cases and legal doctrines.

He’s an originalist, presents as not especially interested in politics but his legal views are probably to the “right” of Barrett and maybe closer to Gorsuch. One of his co-hosts is obviously quite liberal and Baude tolerates his grievances about conservative justices and outcomes but always defends them on the merits.

I’ve been listening to his podcasts and reading his law review articles for 3 or 4 years and I was honestly shocked he wrote this.
 
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If the heads of the Republican Party concentrated on moving forward instead of looking backwards. If they regulated Trump to the background and he kept his mouth shut along with others. We would be alright.

Instead he acted like a child that had lied, pushed the envelope to far, walked away from the Republican Platform/Framework and the only substance he has to talk about Today is an election that happen in 2020.

He can't talk any issues because he has no answers, any actions he takes will only serve him and a selected few. Right now he is selling garbage and has nothing to really show for it with the exception that he Conspired with a group of people to maintain power. He has continually display that he has no filter or reason to be President. He is like giving a 6 year old a loaded gun with temper tantrums. We don't need him in the WH.

Joe Biden is a product of Trump, a sorry excuse for an alternative and As Trump was an Alternative to Hillary. IOW, Biden is unfit as well.

As it appears now we have two unfit leading Candidates for President. My prayer is that both are eliminated from this race.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Haven’t read it yet.

From skimming the first few pages, the state officer tasked with determining whether candidates qualify to be on the ballot would tell Trump he doesn’t qualify. Trump would then have to sue to get on the ballot.
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Be a damn shame if AZ, GA, PA, MI, WI and NV made Trump do a little work to get on the ballot.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You mean, like, if they fake claimed to win, and put the screws to the VP to stop the lawful transition of power? Hmmmm...
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No like saying your going to impeach him before Obama was even done with his term...the real insurrection was the fake dossier and Russia hoax
 
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hog88 said:
Federal officials don’t decide who’s on the ballots. That is up to the individual states.
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I would look at swing states with Democratic Governors and AGs if one takes the action more will follow. Michigan would be an example. Wisconsin would be a wildcard pick, AZ?, PA?
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
How are they stealing it a year before the election? I would understand your newfound claim of it if it was about election details. Most people like you believe Trump. Of course, no one can find a post of yours before 2016 claiming election fraud. That you might believe the plethora of indictments against Trump are election fraud are crazy, given the fact you know damn well Trump didn't declare until after the raid on Mar-A-Lago last August.
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How do you work hard at stealing something AFTER you’ve stolen it?
 
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C-south said:
Lol. You loons are scared s***less.
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I'm scared that the MAGA resentment class is so upset at reality that they will believe literally anything to deny it. That such nonsense threatens to unravel the republic because they would rather plunge into turmoil than face simple facts. And all for the benefit of an absolute con man.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
No like saying your going to impeach him before Obama was even done with his term...the real insurrection was the fake dossier and Russia hoax
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It was a fake dossier, but there was no hoax."Hoax" is another term no one used before Trump told them so. Law enforcement agencies have always implemented "fake" dossiers to catch career criminals who have evaded prosecution by creating insulated shells. Is it lawful? By the constitution? A firm NO! BUT career criminals have also looped through laws to evade prosecution. The former happens as a result of the latter
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Dems are working hard at stealing the 2024 election instead of allowing the people to decide with their votes.
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I think what's /really/ happening is that blatant lawbreakers are being held accountable for their actions. We have to laugh at MAGA--get into their usual high dungeon if somebody kneels during a national anthem--but incite an attack on the Capitol that gets people killed, try to subvert America's democracy and you pretend it's not a problem. Ha, ha, ha. The so-called MAGA patriots. I can smell the hypocrisy from here....
 
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Gandalf said:
Its only "insurrection" if the 2020 election was legit - and no, it was not. The process of transition of power putting Biden in is WAS legit however, and thats why they tried to rush that because once it is in place, there really isnt any mechanism to undo it. The process is supposed to take place based on legit election results but oh well.

Same thing with the joke of impeaching Trump for a phone call to Ukraine to investigate corruption by Biden - only to find out that Hunter was indeed raking in money from Ukraine and VP Biden famously bragged that he got the top prosecutor fired. If someone else was using gov resources to spy on a political opponent, that would be wrong - except when the political opponent is ACTUALLY COMMITTING CRIMES.
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You're just babbling, dude, and clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
From skimming the first few pages, the state officer tasked with determining whether candidates qualify to be on the ballot would tell Trump he doesn’t qualify. Trump would then have to sue to get on the ballot.
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I'm having trouble jumping from the text of the amendment to here. Where's the process? And then, what would the question presented to a court to decide in the subsequent lawsuit?
 
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