Is Trump constitutionally barred from being POTUS again?

#103
#103
evillawyer said:
Yes, we have. But it's been done in response to GOP gerrymanders (see New York, where it wasn't even as bad as it could have been). Dems are fine dropping gerrymandering; Republicans aren't. It's the only way Republicans can remain competitive for the House.
Click to expand...

I actually choked a bit on my water when reading this. I personally lost 2 state senators and the GOP lost the state senate from blatant, in your face gerrymandering. The congressionals they worked to screw us too but I was able to get someone in anyway for one term, then lost the seat for good. Once they took the state senate, then nothing to stop the gerrymander during reapportionment and they just all but crushed the GOP downstate. And assembly and council seats? HAH! lets not talk about that. Long Island has had a comeback of late though.

I laugh even harder whenever I hear BS about "non-partisan commission" to draw up reapportionment. There is no such thing. Because even if the people themselves are pretty even, they are subject to the people who put them there, who are absolutely as partisan as it gets.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64, hUTch2002 and hog88
#104
#104
Pepe_Silvia said:
I doubt democrats want to press this issue. Let Trump winning the republican nomination would guarantee a Democrat win in 2024.
Click to expand...

Exactly - thats precisely the plan. Have him win the nomination and then convict him next summer to either disqualify him or have him try to run while appealing a felony. Dem playbook.

Considering the trash they are fielding, cant really say I blame the Dems here. I mean, I wouldnt want to talk about Joe very much either.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NurseGoodVol, USF grad in TN and AM64
#106
#106
Gandalf said:
Exactly - thats precisely the plan. Have him win the nomination and then convict him next summer to either disqualify him or have him try to run while appealing a felony. Dem playbook.

Considering the trash they are fielding, cant really say I blame the Dems here. I mean, I wouldnt want to talk about Joe very much either.
Click to expand...
None of that is necessary; he will lose regardless of what the dems do.
The best case scenarios are:
1. Republicans reject him and he doesn't get the nomination. (unfortunately, they seem incapable of doing the right thing)
2. Republicans shamefully nominate him and the general population once again rejects him.
3. He is barred from running.
 
#107
#107
Orangeburst said:
what is extreme with Trump policy?
Click to expand...
The extremes of each party. Policy in General, but mostly the group of people that do his dirty work. The face of the Republican Party changed because of Trump and it was not for the better. I blame Trump for running the true base of the Country. Look at what he has done to Cruz, Rabio, Graham for examples. It is all geography based. Half of Congress members don't believe half of what they are saying. It all for power, control and money. They all have ridden the Policies of a TV personality who is good at what he did and just moved it into the Presidency. He has no substance and at one time he did or he made you believe he did. Do you know what his Policies are? Right now it's trying to skirt around the Constitution. Nothing more, nothing less and nothing but. Man on the run. Too many bad habits. Mentally ill so I really think I want to follow his policies. Good thing he doesn't have any, he had and most of the policies he allowed and created in Covid were designed to Herd Immunity and survival of the fittest/richest.
 
#109
#109
lawgator1 said:
I'm scared that the MAGA resentment class is so upset at reality that they will believe literally anything to deny it. That such nonsense threatens to unravel the republic because they would rather plunge into turmoil than face simple facts. And all for the benefit of an absolute con man.
Click to expand...

lol. Russia. You ate that s*** for years. Like many looney libs you lack self awareness to see your very hypocrisy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64
#110
#110
RockyTop85 said:
2021 Tennessee Code :: Title 2 - Elections :: Chapter 13 - Political Parties and Primaries :: Part 2 - Selection of Candidates :: § 2-13-201. Conditions for Name Being Shown on Ballot

No person's name may be shown on a ballot as the nominee of a political party for the offices named in § 2-13-202 or for any office to be voted on by the voters of a county, unless the political party:
1. Is a statewide political party or a recognized minor party; and
2. Has nominated the person substantially in compliance with this chapter.

I really don’t know the answer, but somebody has to make these determinations. I assume it is the SOS. It has to be set out somewhere.
Click to expand...
One would think?

Inherent in our reliance on the party system is the idea that the parties will self-police. But the parties have become weaker.
 
#111
#111
Sudden Impact said:
MMO with intent. This time Trump got caught with his hands in the Cookie Jar. He made decisions vs suggestions with knowledge of knowing he was at risk. He ignored the advice of counsel of which he could be culpable. He was told. He chose to advised to direct and to participate in the planning and execution of the events which culminated on Jan 6.
He knew the risks to reward and advice of counsel both pro and con if he did not succeed. Maybe the first time he has been connected to all the dots directly rather than indirectly.
His mouth, pride, ego and direct participation is what it is and it is provable.
Clearly up to a jury, but with the ranting and raving he has done about it for the last 2.5 years who can find him innocent.
If he is innocent then push the trial forward, get it over with, and go out in win, but yet he needs time to defend himself. The facts are not going to change.
It is not him that bothers me as much as it is the scum in Congress that worships him and would commit more crimes against the Govt if given the chance.
The RICO charge in Atlanta is more appropriate, but get the ball rolling with a simple 4 and out in Washington.
Fringe did you learn a new word he is in this thing up to his hairline. You act like he dipped his toes in the pool.
He could have just kept his mouth shut and he would be a shoo-in. He didn't.
I look at this way, 2.5 years after the election, Trump is still counting Votes vs the Prosecutors, defense lawyers, media and some Republicans are counting the number of years he may serve in prison or confinement.
Click to expand...

Your argument falls apart within your first sentence. You have no way of showing/proving intent. Also you’re under no legal obligation to listen/agree with your counsel. Especially not when other established legal scholars were telling him what he was proposing was both legal and constitutional

Then other 99% of what you said was just “orange man bad” and unworthy of a response
 
#115
#115
lawgator1 said:
The GOP would never go along. The only reason they have the number of seats in the House they do is drawing districts that dilute the power of minorities.
Click to expand...

So you are saying minorities always vote for the Dem candidate regardless? Sort of like the Dems own them or something ?
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64 and 85SugarVol
#118
#118
hog88 said:
So you are saying minorities always vote for the Dem candidate regardless? Sort of like the Dems own them or something ?
Click to expand...


No but generally speaking the black population does trend significantly Dem.

That's why the GOP controlled state legislatures try to cram as many black households as they can into oddly shaped districts. To limit their voting power to as few districts as possible.

This is well known and beyond dispute.
 
#119
#119
lawgator1 said:
No but generally speaking the black population does trend significantly Dem.

That's why the GOP controlled state legislatures try to cram as many black households as they can into oddly shaped districts. To limit their voting power to as few districts as possible.

This is well known and beyond dispute.
Click to expand...

And Dem legislatures do the same with white households when they are in charge during a reapportion. Both parties are guilty of the same thing. My issue with democrats is their belief that minorities are in their pocket, democrats do nothing but hold them down, abuse them but come election time think they are owed their vote.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gandalf and GroverCleveland
#120
#120
hog88 said:
And Dem legislatures do the same with white households when they are in charge during a reapportion. Both parties are guilty of the same thing. My issue with democrats is their belief that minorities are in their pocket, democrats do nothing but hold them down, abuse them but come election time think they are owed their vote.
Click to expand...


You should apply to the DeSantis Revisionist History Alternative Facts Board.
 
#122
#122
hog88 said:
And Dem legislatures do the same with white households when they are in charge during a reapportion. Both parties are guilty of the same thing. My issue with democrats is their belief that minorities are in their pocket, democrats do nothing but hold them down, abuse them but come election time think they are owed their vote.
Click to expand...
 
#123
#123
lawgator1 said:
No but generally speaking the black population does trend significantly Dem.

That's why the GOP controlled state legislatures try to cram as many black households as they can into oddly shaped districts. To limit their voting power to as few districts as possible.

This is well known and beyond dispute.
Click to expand...

Are you saying democrats do not gerrymander?
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top