Islam is a good religion???

[gsvol]

By the way, no "scholars" would disagree with what I wrote about the Mecca and Medina Suras, it is common knowledge... should have been common for you as well, but...

What I meant by the term 'scholars' was islamic religious authorities.

So what you maintian is that the medina verses DO NOT take precendence over the mecca verses when they are not in agreement?

So to me that means you promote a dupliscious religion that has one story when dealing with adversaries from a postition of weakness and another story when dealing from a position of strength.

I am a scholar on Islam. (You do not say Islamic Scholar as it changes the meaning of the terms)

And you are wrong. If you looked at Islam historically, actually real history, you would see your fault; but you prove an ideologue forcing himself to see reason. I suggest you stop reading your "scholars" and read the Quran.

So in what islamic schools have you studied?

If I look at islam historically, actually real history, I see a bloody path that has slaughtered and enslaved countless millions of people.

I am having trouble finding your post denegrating the 'Zionists.'

At any rate, how do you know the plans of the so-called zionists?

If you are referring to the document referred to as the 'protocols of zion' this has proven to be a hoax and bogus as a three dollar bill.

Back during the late sixties I worked closely with some arab moslems and they were always 'zionists this' and 'zionists that' and there was seemingly no way to get them away from their dogma so I just quit associating with them.

I know of no authentic source for the plans of the zionists, perhaps you can enlighten me on that.

I do know the protcols are widely and falsely presented in the world of islam and the nazis did so also during the heyday of their very successful propaganda compaigns.

 

[VolInFlorida]

What I meant by the term 'scholars' was islamic religious authorities.

So what you maintian is that the medina verses DO NOT take precendence over the mecca verses when they are not in agreement?

So to me that means you promote a dupliscious religion that has one story when dealing with adversaries from a postition of weakness and another story when dealing from a position of strength.




So in what islamic schools have you studied?

If I look at islam historically, actually real history, I see a bloody path that has slaughtered and enslaved countless millions of people.

I am having trouble finding your post denegrating the 'Zionists.'

At any rate, how do you know the plans of the so-called zionists?

If you are referring to the document referred to as the 'protocols of zion' this has proven to be a hoax and bogus as a three dollar bill.

Back during the late sixties I worked closely with some arab moslems and they were always 'zionists this' and 'zionists that' and there was seemingly no way to get them away from their dogma so I just quit associating with them.

I know of no authentic source for the plans of the zionists, perhaps you can enlighten me on that.

I do know the protcols are widely and falsely presented in the world of islam and the nazis did so also during the heyday of their very successful propaganda compaigns.

Zionism is a racist Jewish nationalistic ideology that is very similar to National Socialism in that......

1. One of its main points is persecuting a minority people (Palestinians)

2. Belief that Jews are the "chosen people" and can do no wrong.


#2 sounds quite similar to Hitler's theory on the master race, in my opinion.


Zionism has been condemned by the UN as a racist ideology time and again but it's the USA that keeps defending it and stopping it from being lumped in with National Socialism and other similar ideologies.


They mask the ideology by claiming "it's the self-determination of the Jewish people."

 

[OrangeEmpire]

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[gsvol]

Zionism is a racist Jewish nationalistic ideology that is very similar to National Socialism in that......

1. One of its main points is persecuting a minority people (Palestinians)

2. Belief that Jews are the "chosen people" and can do no wrong.


#2 sounds quite similar to Hitler's theory on the master race, in my opinion.


Zionism has been condemned by the UN as a racist ideology time and again but it's the USA that keeps defending it and stopping it from being lumped in with National Socialism and other similar ideologies.


They mask the ideology by claiming "it's the self-determination of the Jewish people."

What a load of carappola.

Where is this zionist manifesto written?

1. Fully 20% of of the citizens of Israel proper are arabs who enjoy every right and priviledge or any other citizen of Israel, there are no palestinian people, but just accross the border in moslem arab controled areas of what was originally designated to be the Jewish homeland, Christian arabs are discriminated against harshly and it is a death penalty offense to sell land to a Jew for any arab.

When Israel became a nation in 1948 nearly all the Jews were expelled from neighboring arab countries, had all their possessions confiscated and arrived in Israel pennyless and through hard work and perseverence, enduring almost dalily moslem terrorist attacks and several wars meant to exterminate them, they have made the desert bloom and have prospered.

2. Certainly they believe themselves the chosen people but they know they have certainly erred occasionally.

Oh, are you talking about a UN that has 57 moslem state votes and has elected iran to be a member of it's civil rights panel?

You speak of hitler, do you know that the moslems were alligned with him in WWII and still have not renounced his philosophy in any way?

As a matter of fact 'mein kompf' is a big seller throughout the moslem world even today and even today many moslem leaders applaud hitler's efforts to kill all the Jews and only lament that he didn't go far enough.

As a matter of fact hitler was completely happy with expelling Jews from Germany and other nazi occupied territories but his moslem allies convinced him the 'final solution' was better than letting Jews migrate back to Israel!

 

[gsvol]

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Happy ramadan comrade whitey you yankee cracker you. :salute:

Ramadan Ding-Dong | FrontPage Magazine

As is customary, President Obama and wife Michelle released their annual Ramadan greetings last Friday. Also customary for Obama, it was full of platitudes about Islam’s supposedly invaluable contribution to American culture, and devoid of any acknowledgement of the dark reality of the Arab Spring that he helped facilitate.
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In ironic response, CNN posted this headline two days later: “Iraq Bombs Kill 25 People as Muslims Celebrate Ramadan.” Similar headlines followed: “Ramadan Fails to Curtail Syrian Violence.” “Muslims Begin Ramadan Fast; Bombs Hit Thai South.” “7 Shot Dead in Karachi on First Day of Ramadan.” So much for reflection, joy, and celebration.

Even if many Muslims around the world weren’t respectful of Ramadan, at least American officials in Guantanamo were. In deference to the Muslims who are vacationing – sorry, I mean incarcerated – there, they graciously postponed any court hearings to allow the murderous 9/11 plotters their time of contemplation and joy.
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Not according to a group by the name of “Qaedat al-Jihad,” a branch of al Qaeda that has been described as one of the “affiliates of the Global Jihad movement.” :

The month of Ramadan is a month of holy war and death for Allah. It is a month for fighting the enemies of Allah and God’s messenger, the Jews and their American facilitators… The holy war is not confined to a particular arena and we shall fight the Jews and the Americans until they leave the land of Islam.
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Obama continued his Ramadan statement:

This year, Ramadan holds special meaning for those citizens in the Middle East and North Africa who are courageously achieving democracy and self-determination and for those who are still struggling to achieve their universal rights.

He’s referring off course to the Arab Spring, that glorious flowering of democratic freedom which has led to Islamic fundamentalists toppling regimes in Libya, Egypt, and elsewhere, threatening to create new Irans.
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Obama again:

The United States continues to stand with those who seek the chance to decide their own destiny, to live free from fear and violence, and to practice their faith freely.

Really? This hollow claim will come as something of a bitter surprise to the Iranian Green Revolutionaries he ignored three summers ago, and to dwindling Christian communities all across the Middle East who are now being targeted in the genocidal wake of the Islamist Winter he praises so lavishly.