Israel vs Palestinians

[EasternVol]

Only one side and one side only deliberately provokes war and murders innocent civilians. The very fact that so many people cannot (or will not) see clear and unabashed EVIL for what it is; but somehow wishes to paint totally unjustified equivalences is one of the reasons I fear the human race will never make it to a rational and just future. Barbarism is first excused and is now celebrated.

If you think only one side deliberately provokes war and murders innocent civilians then you're completely ignoring reality there. The IDF's killed at least 40,000 in Gaza so far and quite a few in the WB. Most killed were women, children and elderly.

 

[lawgator1]

I want the US to quit providing aid to them while they still hold our people.

Aid to who, and who is holding them hostage? You equate the two, don't you. Do you realize why that is a problem?

 

[hog88]

Aid to who, and who is holding them hostage? You equate the two, don't you. Do you realize why that is a problem?

How can you not equate the two? The people know and support the terrorists, they hide them, they help supply them, they know where the hostages are.

 

[OrangeTsar]

If you think only one side deliberately provokes war and murders innocent civilians then you're completely ignoring reality there. The IDF's killed at least 40,000 in Gaza so far and quite a few in the WB. Most killed were women, children and elderly.

Sigh, that old 40,000 lie again. You would have believed the casualty figures claimed by Gobbels in 1944 too wouldn’t you?
And even if was true; there is a huge difference between civilians killed as collateral damage vs flying into a music festival and wantonly butchering teenagers who never did a THING to hurt you.
Evil is evil my friend. Quit making excuses for the devil.

 

[volbound1700]

I want the US to quit providing aid to them while they still hold our people.

Agree or negotiate aid plan based on release of hostages.

 

[Vol8188]

I want the US to quit providing aid to them while they still hold our people.

And stop providing aid to the countries aiding Hamas. Qatar being a great example

 

[85SugarVol]

You want American troops carrying out military operations in Gaza?

The current actions taken amount to Less Than Zero.

The actions you’re proposing are more akin to Maximum Overdrive.

Are you of the opinion that there is no course of action that lay between:

Do Nothing
-and-
Boots on Ground

?

 

[hog88]

Agree or negotiate aid plan based on release of hostages.

You don’t negotiate with terrorist.

 

[lawgator1]

The current actions taken amount to Less Than Zero.

The actions you’re proposing are more akin to Maximum Overdrive.

Are you of the opinion that there is no course of action that lay between:

Do Nothing
-and-
Boots on Ground

?

How else would we secure the release of American citizens than boots on the ground ?

 

[OrangeTsar]

I suppose it depends on which source is quoted. The Palestinians say they agree with the terms proposed by Biden. They and some US news reports say Netanyahu is adding conditions which is delaying or blocking agreement.

Why even try and reach agreement with monsters who shoot hostages in the head to prevent them from being rescued.
They just shot an AMERICAN citizen in cold blood. And democrats want us to treat them like decent people with whom one can NEGOTIATE?
Has the world totally gone crazy?

 

[CobbVol]

How else would we secure the release of American citizens than boots on the ground ?

Elect Trump then they will be released shortly thereafter.

 

[OrangeTsar]

How else would we secure the release of American citizens than boots on the ground ?

Not cutting off arms and ammunition to the people who DO have boots on the ground would be a good start.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Elect Trump then they will be released shortly thereafter.

Just like the Iranians when Reagan took over. It was in their interest in not being blown to bits to let the hostages go.
Weakness breeds contempt in our enemies.

 

[85SugarVol]

It takes a totally depraved degree of evil to murder hostages in cold blood right before they are about to be rescued. And make them film videos right before the execution to make their families suffer while watching.
And you have a large number of people, mostly liberals, who think these are the GOOD guys??????
I hear that they are adding a 10th circle to hell; just for Hamas.

You mean the kind of people that would take babies hostage?

 

[85SugarVol]

How else would we secure the release of American citizens than boots on the ground ?

So you don’t believe anything lay between Nothing and Boots?

 

[Vol8188]

You want American troops carrying out military operations in Gaza?

Stop pretending this is the only option. We could stop urging Israel to agree to a ceasefire. We could allow Israel to conduct this war on their own terms. We could take economic against against Qatar.

There’s numerous possibilities. But the left refuses to acknowledge any of them and uses the same old lie. “We can’t do anything, because we don’t want to send our troops”.

 

[Vol8188]

How else would we secure the release of American citizens than boots on the ground ?

How much money do we give to Hamas? Start by making that number 0.

Then give them another 24 hours before you drop the UNWRA money to 0

 

[me_grag53]

"Peace , no peace" as long as Israels enemies refuse to accept their right to exist. From the river to the sea is a call for genocide.

 

[85SugarVol]

Stop pretending this is the only option. We could stop urging Israel to agree to a ceasefire. We could allow Israel to conduct this war on their own terms. We could take economic against against Qatar.

There’s numerous possibilities. But the left refuses to acknowledge any of them and uses the same old lie. “We can’t do anything, because we don’t want to send our troops”.

There are numerous ways we could reach out and touch Hamas. We could do it today, if we wanted to.

 

[lawgator1]

How much money do we give to Hamas? Start by making that number 0.

Then give them another 24 hours before you drop the UNWRA money to 0

Won't result in release of hostages, and you know that.

 

[Vol8188]

Won't result in release of hostages, and you know that.

I have no doubt we could leverage our way into the release of all American hostages.

But rather than do that, we only apply pressure to Israel. Not the side that openly executes American hostages. We have to coddle them

 

[KB5252]

Won't result in release of hostages, and you know that.

Nothing will short of giving these guys golden parachutes to go to other countries and call terrorist hits on Israeli citizens in the future. That's the game they've played for decades.

 

[OrangeTsar]

You mean the kind of people that would take babies hostage?

Yes, I mean Hamas, who does indeed take babies hostage.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Stop pretending this is the only option. We could stop urging Israel to agree to a ceasefire. We could allow Israel to conduct this war on their own terms. We could take economic against against Qatar.

There’s numerous possibilities. But the left refuses to acknowledge any of them and uses the same old lie. “We can’t do anything, because we don’t want to send our troops”.

We could also root out and shutdown their money flow from US “activists” who are laundering money to them. Start investigating who is funding all of these pro Hamas demonstrations and you will eventually uncover a wide U.S. based network directly giving comfort and aid to Hamas terrorists.

 

[volfanhill]

I have no doubt we could leverage our way into the release of all American hostages.

But rather than do that, we only apply pressure to Israel. Not the side that openly executes American hostages. We have to coddle them

You start by telling hamas that we are putting zero handcuffs on Israel until our folks are free. They can do whatever the hell they want. Then you call Iran and tell them you will hold them accountable for any American lives lost.