Israel vs Palestinians

[NashVol11]

They killed several of Hamas' senior leadership and five figures worth of combatants.

So that resulted in Hamas being removed from power, right?

...right?

 

[Vol8188]

What do you think they succeeded in, besides leveling a bunch of hospitals and killing tens of thousands of civilians (including many of the hostages)? You agreed it was a terrible look and now framing it as a success?

Destroying most of the senior leadership of Hamas. Specifically the people responsible for the attacks.

Can you answer my question from earlier?

I’m curious if you agree with these two statements.

1. Hamas needs to be removed from power

2. It’s impossible to do that without bloodshed.

 

[Vol8188]

So that resulted in Hamas being removed from power, right?

...right?

You’re wrongly assuming this is the end.

 

[Matt2496]

I’m curious if you agree with these two statements.

1. Hamas needs to be removed from power

2. It’s impossible to do that without bloodshed.

You will likely never get a straight answer to these questions.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The reality is that if the status quo returns it would be 10 years before Hamas could form any type of assault on Israel again. And now Israeli has purchased a large portion of Gaza so annexation has taken a huge step forward. Hamas was barely in the game before. Their chances of having their own state now are 0

 

[Matt2496]

Nothing is going to change the fact that Israel killed thousands upon thousands of innocents to achieve essentially nothing

Nothing is going to change the fact that Hamas uses civilians as human shields and must be eradicated.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You will likely never get a straight answer to these questions.

I can’t get an answer on what they’d do differently either

 

[bamawriter]

So that resulted in Hamas being removed from power, right?

...right?

And that's why I would not have agreed to this cease fire. Israel should not have negotiated with Hamas as if they are a legitimate party.

But you asked what else Israel accomplished, and I answered.

 

[VOLS INC.]

I can’t get an answer on what they’d do differently either

Cmon slice. You know the answer. If every Jewish person on earth would agree to kill themselves, so that the Palestinians could have not only the land they want, but also the peace of mind of knowing there were no more Jews, this conflict would be over.

For them, it’s that easy.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[whodeycin85]

No, not at all. It's the same deal that was offered several months ago, Bibi was probably banking on the Trump admin being more supportive of Israel and then found out that our interest was just the return of U.S. hostages (and Hamas realized that orgs like Hezbollah weren't going to help them)

Phase 2 specifically says Hamas cannot remain in control. that is why most think it'll never get to pause 2 before Hamas breaks the deal. I can't find the details of Biden original agreement other then the IDF was to withdraw from Gaza..

 

[n_huffhines]

Not an apartheid state.

 

[n_huffhines]

Bibi will beat them to it. He always does.

We're certainly not going to make them keep the peace.

 

[n_huffhines]

They killed several of Hamas' senior leadership and five figures worth of combatants.

Is that supposed to be a win? That's a means to an end, not an end.

 

[Orangeslice13]

We're certainly not going to make them keep the peace.

And we shouldn’t.

 

[bamawriter]

Is that supposed to be a win? That's a means to an end, not an end.

It beats not having done it.

 

[hog88]

Being a civilian in Gaza doesn't mean you "support terrorists," just another excuse for Israel's failure

The odds are really dang good that you do support terrorist if you live in Gaza.

 

[85SugarVol]

Is that supposed to be a win? That's a means to an end, not an end.

What are they supposed to do to end it?

Firebomb Gaza after they get the hostages back?

 

[hog88]

So that resulted in Hamas being removed from power, right?

...right?

Hamas can only be removed from power by Gazians. They’re the people who give Hamas their power.

 

[85SugarVol]

Hamas can only be removed from power by Gazians. They’re the people who give Hamas their power.

I believe it’s Gazinites.

 

[n_huffhines]

It beats not having done it.

Depends on the end, actually.

 

[EasternVol]

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Wag the dog.

 

[NashVol11]

The odds are really dang good that you do support terrorist if you live in Gaza.

BS. "Support" means material assistance, not just general approval of your government's actions unless you're suggesting other attacks on civilians such as 9/11 were justified

 

[hog88]

BS. "Support" means material assistance, not just general approval of your government's actions unless you're suggesting other attacks on civilians such as 9/11 were justified

Sorry but my gibberish translator isn’t working.

 

[EasternVol]

Support terrorist you get smashed, the two go hand in hand.

Does that mean Netanyahu will get smashed given his support of hamas?