Israel vs Palestinians

Israel killing tens of thousands of civilians just to leave Hamas in power is a pretty terrible look

Agreed. Hopefully the ceasefire is only temporary, given Hamas is continuing to keep hostages including a 1 year old even after the deal.

In return for 33 hostages, Hamas will get hundreds of terrorists released.
 
Hamas will break the ceasefire within a month.
We are talking about people who were given 15 years to prove themselves but instead made themselves more dependent on water and power, dig up infrastructure to make weapons then attacked the people who they depend on for life sustaining needs.

Not the smartest people
 
What a Fing stooge.

We can pay for wars like this and in Ukraine but the people on California are likely ****ed

The people in Western NC are for sure. Same folks, other side of the mountain. To say our government sucks azz is a drastic understatement. Lets send Ukraine another $100BN though so they sacrifice another generation of men in a war they can never possibly win. IF Ukraine ever recovers...it will be a century or 2.
 
Wasn't this ceasefire based on the fact Hamas cannot rule Gaza anymore.?? That was why Biden couldn't get it thru because he just have Hamas what they wanted..I have. Feeling that once the hostages are received Israel will reclaim Gaza
Israelis have already compensated the rich Palestinian land owners for a lot of the land in Gaza. So when they do take over Gaza officially, nobody can call it theft.
 
Nothing is going to change the fact that Israel killed thousands upon thousands of innocents to achieve essentially nothing

You seem to think this is over. This is just a hostage exchange and phase 1 of their negotiations.

I don’t think we see a phase 2 without Hamas relinquishing power. Which is a good thing
 
Wasn't this ceasefire based on the fact Hamas cannot rule Gaza anymore.?? That was why Biden couldn't get it thru because he just have Hamas what they wanted..I have. Feeling that once the hostages are received Israel will reclaim Gaza
No, not at all. It's the same deal that was offered several months ago, Bibi was probably banking on the Trump admin being more supportive of Israel and then found out that our interest was just the return of U.S. hostages (and Hamas realized that orgs like Hezbollah weren't going to help them)
 
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It seems no matter what they do, you’ll call it a failure. So I’m not sure your opinion is very valid here
What do you think they succeeded in, besides leveling a bunch of hospitals and killing tens of thousands of civilians (including many of the hostages)? You agreed it was a terrible look and now framing it as a success?
 
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