Israel vs Palestinians

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Orangeslice13 said:
15 years to prove they could grow into a country.
**** sticks in this thread have actually complained that Bengi actually gave money too and supported Hamas like that was a problem. Think that through…..Israel gave money to and supported Hamas. And the ****tards crying now about Israel are also complaining that they tried to support the elected leaders of Gaza.

You can’t make that level of stupidity up.


It is an absolute fact, that nobody of any credibility denies, that Hamas had control for 15 years and in that time made themselves more dependent on Israel and then attacked those people who provide them with power and water.


**** them.
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To take it a step further, the Palestinians are nothing but welfare queens. The produce little, if anything to help sustain themselves. They contribute nothing to the world but death and strife. I have zero sympathy for any of them. None of them. They are worthless, and their women have an average of about 5 kids. There is a huge reason why no country wants them, and if they take them, it's only begrudgingly. I can't blame other countries for not wanting them though. Who the heck would want a few extra million dependents who's population will just continue to grow?
 
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Hamas had 15 years to grow and prove they could be self sufficient and join modern society. They even had the support of Benjamin Netanyahu. Instead they made their situation worse, became more dependent and attacked those they depend on for basic needs like power and water.
**** em
 
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bamawriter said:
Maybe you're right. But it is still true that the folks in Gaza elected Hamas. And Hamas is only doing that which they promised they would do. And the Gazans had decades worth of Muslim Brotherhood history as a guide to predict how things would turn out once Hamas was in charge. And lest we excuse the other Palestinians, most polls show that if elections were to be held in the West Bank, Hamas would win at least a comfortable plurality, if not a majority, of the vote.
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In 1933, the people of Germany had voted for a government that made Adolf Hitler Chancellor. Six years later, Hitler unleashed a world war. The German civilians then suffered the consequences of their choice. Not totally fair as they could no longer take back their earlier choice; but no serious person argues that the Allies were not justified in defending themselves which included causing collateral civilian suffering.
As the saying goes, elections have consequences.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
15 years to prove they could grow into a country.
**** sticks in this thread have actually complained that Bengi actually gave money too and supported Hamas like that was a problem. Think that through…..Israel gave money to and supported Hamas. And the ****tards crying now about Israel are also complaining that they tried to support the elected leaders of Gaza.

You can’t make that level of stupidity up.


It is an absolute fact, that nobody of any credibility denies, that Hamas had control for 15 years and in that time made themselves more dependent on Israel and then attacked those people who provide them with power and water.


**** them.
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If you know the situation there like you claim then you certainly know better than that. Are you lying to yourself or just trying to sway the gullible?
Bibi's support to hamas wasn't for economic development; it's to sow division among the Palestinians, hamas vs PA.
Elected government? You mean the bunch that wiped out their political opponents and haven't allowed an election in 20 years?
 
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EasternVol said:
If you know the situation there like you claim then you certainly know better than that. Are you lying to yourself or just trying to sway the gullible?
Bibi's support to hamas wasn't for economic development; it's to sow division among the Palestinians, hamas vs PA.
Elected government? You mean the bunch that wiped out their political opponents and haven't allowed an election in 20 years?
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Ya I’m confused, is he implying it’s wrong to suggest Israel giving money directly to hamas (even before they were in government role) was idiotic?

Surely not, considering Hamas was founded on the principle that a 2 state solution was not allowed to happen and called for the destruction of Israel and the murdering of every Jew.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
In 1933, the people of Germany had voted for a government that made Adolf Hitler Chancellor. Six years later, Hitler unleashed a world war. The German civilians then suffered the consequences of their choice. Not totally fair as they could no longer take back their earlier choice; but no serious person argues that the Allies were not justified in defending themselves which included causing collateral civilian suffering.
As the saying goes, elections have consequences.
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Elections definitely have consequences, and there’s casualties that happen from even a justified war.

Genuine question, were German civilians viewed the same way gazans are viewed?
 
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Smokey123 said:
Elections definitely have consequences, and there’s casualties that happen from even a justified war.

Genuine question, were German civilians viewed the same way gazans are viewed?
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I’d say worse considering how many died in bombing raids.
 
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