Israel vs Palestinians

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Vol8188 said:
That's literally never stopped the UN from going after Israel. What was the stat we shared the other day, something like 65x more that the UN has called out Israel than any other country. Not to mention the 2001 meeting to condemn racism that the US refused to take part in because the meeting was actually just a meeting to bash Israel?

Surely, you know these things and are just trolling.
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I posted the numbers and don’t remember exactly, but it was something like -

Israel vs China, Iran, N Korea was 148-2

Just a total sham.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Yes that’s where the concept of “belief” comes in.

Hamas says they didn’t do it.
Survivors from Nova said they did.

You don’t find the Nova survivors anymore believable than actual Hamas spokesmen.

Pretty telling…
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How is is telling? I'll base my conclusions on the evidence when it's vetted.
 
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EasternVol said:
They presented it to a panel they organized and refuse to cooperate with the UN committee charged with investigating such matters. Keep on being you.
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They presented it to the UN. That’s plain as day. Even NBC says so.

You obstinately claimed they didn’t. Choosing to quibble over which UN group they presented it to.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Crazy theory here: Israel knew that this attack was coming, and didn't stop it for two reasons:

Reason 1: If they acted to stop the attack then it may not give them enough ammo to totally wipe out Hamas. The outside pressure may have been to great for them to greatly limit their actions. This would have allowed Hamas to stay in control, and another attack like this would have been planned in the future...maybe even a worse one.

Reason 2: If they would have stopped this attack, and Hamas would have remained, then that means Hamas remains in power with Iran likely developing nukes soon. A heavy deterrent, plus Iran could give Hamas a nuke and they would be crazy enough to use it in the future.

Israel might have just wanted to just go ahead and rip that band aide off.

Thoughts?
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I don't understand the logic behind either theories. The Israelis didn't want this to happen. But it does now present a opportunity for Netanyahu to take advantage of it.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I quoted the article. They didn’t present to the biased committee that you want them to.

They did present to the UN.

We’ve been through this.
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They organized the panel to which they presented the evidence. They refuse to cooperate with the official channel for such matters. And you think that means they presented the evidence to the UN. You'll once again believe what you want if it's to your team's benefit.
 
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EasternVol said:
They organized the panel to which they presented the evidence. They refuse to cooperate with the official channel for such matters. And you think that means they presented the evidence to the UN. You'll once again believe what you want if it's to your team's benefit.
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A panel at the UN. They presented to the UN.

Believe? Your team’s benefit?
Lol, you’re in here believing Hamas equally with Nova survivors.
 
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85SugarVol said:
A panel at the UN. They presented to the UN.

Believe? Your team’s benefit?
Lol, you’re in here believing Hamas equally with Nova survivors.
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A panel that they organize is not 'the UN'. They should send their evidence it through the proper channels. It will get more exposure and they'll have more credibility.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I don't understand the logic behind either theories. The Israelis didn't want this to happen. But it does now present a opportunity for Netanyahu to take advantage of it.
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It's just a theory. Bad things were going to happen no matter what you do to try to prevent it in the long run, so at least take advantage of it. Like I said, just a theory.
 
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EasternVol said:
A panel that they organize is not 'the UN'. They should send their evidence it through the proper channels. It will get more exposure and they'll have more credibility.
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It’s a panel. At the UN. They presented evidence at the UN.

More credibility? With who, you?

If a Nova survivor went on MSNBC with Stephanie Ruhle tomorrow night and said “this is what I saw, this is what happened” -

Would you believe her?
 
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85SugarVol said:
It’s a panel. At the UN. They presented evidence at the UN.

More credibility? With who, you?

If a Nova survivor went on MSNBC with Stephanie Ruhle tomorrow night and said “this is what I saw, this is what happened” -

Would you believe her?
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If you think that's presenting it to the UN then have at it.
Of course with me, and with anyone who's objective.
I might. It would depend on what she said.
 
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EasternVol said:
So they shun the official investigative body and set up their own panel. Right. That's not providing evidence to the UN.
If you're the victim of a crime you cooperate with authorized officials, not just call a meeting of your friends and show them your evidence. Israel's missing an opportunity to show the world what hamas did. Why?
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Authorized by who?
Israel doesn’t recognize or need any authority outside their own. Now we’re back to the stupidity of the war police?

You can either believe what they are saying or not but beyond that, this is like the rest of the UNs bull ****..irrelevant
 
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www.bbc.com

Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears

The BBC has seen and heard evidence that Hamas fighters committed horrific sexual violence in Israel.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

This article is graphic, you might not want to read it honestly.
These are animals.

They need to be put down as such.

They serve their father, satan. A blind man could see that.
 
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First Hamas fighters raped her. Then they shot her in the head
The terrorists were ‘on a mission’ to carry out sexual attacks on October 7. Campaigners have asked why the UN stayed silent
by Christina Lamb, Chief Foreign Correspondent
December 02 2023

She had, he says, the face of an angel. Night after night Yoni Saadon, 39, wakes in anguish to the faces of women.

First, that of the young woman hiding next to him under the stage of the Supernova festival where he had been dancing to electronic music as the sun rose on October 7 and Hamas militants opened fire.

“She fell to the ground, shot in the head, and I pulled her body over me and smeared her blood on me so it would look as if I was dead too,” he said. “I will never forget her face. Every night I wake to it and apologise to her, saying ‘I’m sorry’.”

After an hour, he peeked out. “I saw this beautiful woman with the face of an angel and eight or ten of the fighters beating and raping her. She was screaming, ‘Stop it — already I’m going to die anyway from what you are doing, just kill me!’ When they finished they were laughing and the last one shot her in the head

I kept thinking it could have been one of my daughters,” added the father of four. “Or my sister — I had bought her a ticket but last minute she couldn’t come.”

The horror did not end there. Hiding in bushes, he saw two more Hamas fighters. “They had caught a young woman near a car and she was fighting back, not allowing them to strip her. They threw her to the ground and one of the terrorists took a shovel and beheaded her and her head rolled along the ground. I see that head too,” he says.
 
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EasternVol said:
A panel that they organize is not 'the UN'. They should send their evidence it through the proper channels. It will get more exposure and they'll have more credibility.
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Is it like that human rights panel chaired by representatives of some of the worst human rights violators in the world?

The UN is a joke. The fact we fund and house it here is only so it won't become even more corrupt than it already is. The UN is a charade, window dressing that is sometimes useful to us. They have little, if any, credibility for the reason I stated above, and many others.
 
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KB5252 said:
Is it like that human rights panel chaired by representatives of some of the worst human rights violators in the world?

The UN is a joke. The fact we fund and house it here is only so it won't become even more corrupt than it already is. The UN is a charade, window dressing that is sometimes useful to us. They have little, if any, credibility for the reason I stated above, and many others.
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Precisely

China, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, France, Malawi are currently serving three year terms set to expire on 31 December 2023.
 
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TNVOLNAVY said:
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First Hamas fighters raped her. Then they shot her in the head
The terrorists were ‘on a mission’ to carry out sexual attacks on October 7. Campaigners have asked why the UN stayed silent
by Christina Lamb, Chief Foreign Correspondent
December 02 2023

She had, he says, the face of an angel. Night after night Yoni Saadon, 39, wakes in anguish to the faces of women.

First, that of the young woman hiding next to him under the stage of the Supernova festival where he had been dancing to electronic music as the sun rose on October 7 and Hamas militants opened fire.

“She fell to the ground, shot in the head, and I pulled her body over me and smeared her blood on me so it would look as if I was dead too,” he said. “I will never forget her face. Every night I wake to it and apologise to her, saying ‘I’m sorry’.”

After an hour, he peeked out. “I saw this beautiful woman with the face of an angel and eight or ten of the fighters beating and raping her. She was screaming, ‘Stop it — already I’m going to die anyway from what you are doing, just kill me!’ When they finished they were laughing and the last one shot her in the head

I kept thinking it could have been one of my daughters,” added the father of four. “Or my sister — I had bought her a ticket but last minute she couldn’t come.”

The horror did not end there. Hiding in bushes, he saw two more Hamas fighters. “They had caught a young woman near a car and she was fighting back, not allowing them to strip her. They threw her to the ground and one of the terrorists took a shovel and beheaded her and her head rolled along the ground. I see that head too,” he says.
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The BBC article I linked up there ^^^ has even more accounts like this...and what those animals did to these women AND CHILDREN is absolutely horrific. I would not let my 22yo son or 15yo daughter read this stuff. You cannot "unimagine" or "unpicture" in your head the desecration of these innocent women and children. These poor weaker humans had to experience absolute horror and torture as their last experiences on this planet. Nobody has a right to do that, especially to
women and children. I cannot even imagine the black pit of a soul that a man must have to ever rape a woman....much less rape, assault, dismember and murder them while laughing about it with friends. That is pure evil, which comes from only 1 place. The father of lies.

It appears that the animals MO was discussed before the invasion...as many different smaller groups of terrorists all made sure to shoot these poor girls in the head after savaging them in every way possible. This appears to be not a small rogue group of hamas acting alone...but rather a well organized campaign of many small squads that were all taught and encouraged to do the most horrific things possible to women and children, and then to kill them so they couldn't tell the stories of what was done to them. Bunch of animals. I hope every single member of hamas gets hunted down and executed in the streets.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
The BBC article I linked up there ^^^ has even more accounts like this...and what those animals did to these women AND CHILDREN is absolutely horrific. I would not let my 22yo son or 15yo daughter read this stuff. You cannot "unimagine" or "unpicture" in your head the desecration of these innocent women and children. These poor weaker humans had to experience absolute horror and torture as their last experiences on this planet. Nobody has a right to do that, especially to
women and children. I cannot even imagine the black pit of a soul that a man must have to ever rape a woman....much less rape, assault, dismember and murder them while laughing about it with friends. That is pure evil, which comes from only 1 place. The father of lies.

It appears that the animals MO was discussed before the invasion...as many different smaller groups of terrorists all made sure to shoot these poor girls in the head after savaging them in every way possible. This appears to be not a small rogue group of hamas acting alone...but rather a well organized campaign of many small squads that were all taught and encouraged to do the most horrific things possible to women and children, and then to kill them so they couldn't tell the stories of what was done to them. Bunch of animals. I hope every single member of hamas gets hunted down and executed in the streets.
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Some VN posters believe we should not be biased against Mooslems. B.S!
 
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