Israel vs Palestinians

[Orangeslice13]

Bragging about how you can’t comprehend a basic English sentence is certainly one approach

Why for you be?

 

[NashVol11]

Saying something objectively false, then hiding behind “context” and running away from yes or no questions is the same thing you did to Eastern when you said he didn’t read the article he posted. It’s the same thing every time lol

Just like I said lol, now pretending not to speak English. Next time he’s wrong it’ll be that his keyboard isn’t working or something similar

 

[Orangeslice13]

Just like I said lol, now pretending not to speak English. Next time he’s wrong it’ll be that his keyboard isn’t working or something similar

Nash be like….

 

[Orangeslice13]

that’s his 2 AS buddies clapping in the background

 

[McDad]

For the two state solution people:

If you were to change the legal definition of Gaza and the WB to be considered full/independent states, what would change for the better?

I asked a similar Q yesterday. Huff was the only one who offered insight. He didn't have an opinion on how long peace would last after 2 state solution implemented.

I have a theory on why our Qs aren't answered.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

He mentioned belligerence without even mentioning the more than half a million Jews living there prior to 1948, and how they were treated and viewed by other people at that time. It's like most of his half ass, hit and runs that he pulls.

There are Jews, Muslims and Christians still alive today that were playing with each other and living peacefully. It wasn't until the huge influx of Zionist terrorists came in and wrecked that peace.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I know you hate the Jews

Pilgrims = Israelis
Native Americans = Palestinians

Now how is that antisemitism?

 

[85SugarVol]

How f'n dumb is that guy to set himself ablaze to "free palestine!"

Way to do that to your f'n family dude and way to not make a bit of difference.

Why not go fight for Hamas? Just gonna off yourself instead?

The dude is already out of the news cycle

The bestest of braviest heroes.
-Huff

 

[Orangeslice13]

There are Jews, Muslims and Christians still alive today that were playing with each other and living peacefully. It wasn't until the huge influx of Zionist terrorists came in and wrecked that peace.

 

[85SugarVol]

Ummm

Angry mob forces Jewish students to evacuate UC-Berkeley theater where IDF soldier was scheduled to speak

Jewish students at the University of California, Berkeley were forced to evacuate an auditorium as anti-Israel protesters banged on and eventually broke through the glass doors of a campus theater,…

nypost.com

“Jew, Jew, Jew!” - but they’re just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel though…

And

They were never in danger anyway
- Someone in here, probably

 

[Vol8188]

The bestest of braviest heroes.
-Huff

I’m still out here paying my taxes like a coward. Meanwhile, this man is making a difference

 

[jp1]

There are Jews, Muslims and Christians still alive today that were playing with each other and living peacefully. It wasn't until the huge influx of Zionist terrorists came in and wrecked that peace.

So you are telling me prior to 1948, that Jews, Christians, and Muslims were "playing together" and holding hands in harmony?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So you are telling me prior to 1948, that Jews, Christians, and Muslims were "playing together" and holding hands in harmony?

I'm specifically telling you that in Palestine in the years leading up to 1948, that yes, there are people still around that will tell you that there were no issues with the people until the Zionists arrived in large numbers.

I have to underline that specific point because I'm sure there are other examples throughout the world where you did have Islamic issues with Christians and Jews. But in that particular region and at that time, it was not a hostile environment.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I know you hate the Jews

Also.. Zionists, not Jews. Can you get it through your thick skull that there is a difference?

'I am a Zionist': How Joe Biden's lifelong bond with Israel shapes war policy

When Joe Biden met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet during his visit to Israel, the U.S. president assured them: "I don't believe you have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, and I am a Zionist."

John Hagee - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

John Charles Hagee (born April 12, 1940) is an American pastor and televangelist. He founded John Hagee Ministries, which telecasts to the United States and Canada. He is also the founder and chairman of the Christian Zionist organization Christians United for Israel.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So you are telling me prior to 1948, that Jews, Christians, and Muslims were "playing together" and holding hands in harmony?

There was fighting literally non stop from the middle of WW1 till today.
I suspect you already knew that.

Palestine 1918 to 1948 - History Learning Site

Palestine is the name (first referred to by the Ancient Greeks) of an area in the Middle East situated between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. Palestine was absorbed into the Ottoman Empire in 1517 and remained under the rule of the Turks until World War One. Towards the end of this...

www.historylearningsite.co.uk

 

[volfanhill]

I asked a similar Q yesterday. Huff was the only one who offered insight. He didn't have an opinion on how long peace would last after 2 state solution implemented.

I have a theory on why our Qs aren't answered.

A two state solution will never be accepted by Hamas. The reason is they would then have no reason to be the ones leading the Palestinian people. People in power dont give power up. If somehow a two state solution did happen, their leadership would do all they could to destabilize it, so they could once again be in power.

 

[85SugarVol]

A two state solution will never be accepted by Hamas. The reason is they would then have no reason to be the ones leading the Palestinian people. People in power dont give power up. If somehow a two state solution did happen, their leadership would do all they could to destabilize it, so they could once again be in power.

No, no, no… according to Huff only the Israeli crazies sabotage the peace process.

 

[Orangeslice13]

A two state solution will never be accepted by Hamas. The reason is they would then have no reason to be the ones leading the Palestinian people. People in power dont give power up. If somehow a two state solution did happen, their leadership would do all they could to destabilize it, so they could once again be in power.

It’s literally in their charter. There will never be an acceptable alternative with the existence of Israel as long as there’s a Hamas.

 

[volbound1700]

There are Jews, Muslims and Christians still alive today that were playing with each other and living peacefully. It wasn't until the huge influx of Zionist terrorists came in and wrecked that peace.

Tell that to all the Assyrians, Armenians, Chaldeans, etc. that were being killed by Muslims.

If by "peaceful", you mean Muslims committing genocide on non-Muslims, sure. Ottomans were pretty brutal if you read about them in history. Pretty much their entire homeland was created by committing genocide on local people (mostly Greeks of the Byzantine Empire).

Most of those lands should be Greek if you want to be honest. Prior to Islam, they were Greek/Roman.

 

[volbound1700]

There was fighting literally non stop from the middle of WW1 till today.
I suspect you already knew that.

Palestine 1918 to 1948 - History Learning Site

Palestine is the name (first referred to by the Ancient Greeks) of an area in the Middle East situated between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. Palestine was absorbed into the Ottoman Empire in 1517 and remained under the rule of the Turks until World War One. Towards the end of this...

www.historylearningsite.co.uk

Frankly, there has been almost non-stop fighting in the region since 3000 B.C.

 

[McDad]

Open Qs for anyone:

What's the relationship between Hamas and Palestinian people? I think Hamas is in power in Gaza since 2006 and will not allow any elections. Do Palestinians support Hamas? Are they unified behind Hamas because of ideology or fear?

 

[85SugarVol]

Open Qs for anyone:

What's the relationship between Hamas and Palestinian people? I think Hamas is in power in Gaza since 2006 and will not allow any elections. Do Palestinians support Hamas? Are they unified behind Hamas because of ideology or fear?

Interesting topic. Apparently there is nothing to do in Gaza. They are allegedly some of the most heavily polled people on earth.

Public polling has demonstrated again, and again, and again, that Hamas enjoys widespread support amongst Gazans.

What we don’t know (as has been pointed out in here) is how many Gazans secretly wept for the Israelis after 10/7 due to fear.

I’m sure there are some that don’t like Hamas, and they likely keep that to themselves. There are many more that support them.

 

[McDad]

Interesting topic. Apparently there is nothing to do in Gaza. They are allegedly some of the most heavily polled people on earth.

Public polling has demonstrated again, and again, and again, that Hamas enjoys widespread support amongst Gazans.

What we don’t know (as has been pointed out in here) is how many Gazans secretly wept for the Israelis after 10/7 due to fear.

I’m sure there are some that don’t like Hamas, and they likely keep that to themselves. There are many more that support them.

If Hamas enjoys ideological support from Palestinians and Hamas is dead set against a two state solution, what would a two state solution really accomplish?

 

[jp1]

I'm specifically telling you that in Palestine in the years leading up to 1948, that yes, there are people still around that will tell you that there were no issues with the people until the Zionists arrived in large numbers.

I have to underline that specific point because I'm sure there are other examples throughout the world where you did have Islamic issues with Christians and Jews. But in that particular region and at that time, it was not a hostile environment.

1920 Nebi Musa riots
1921 1st Jaffa riots
1929 Palestine riots (Buraq Uprising)
1929 Pogroms in Jerusalem, Hebron, and Safed
1933 2nd Jaffa riots
1936 3rd Jaffa riots


There are just a few examples. I can also add quite a few in Egypt, Yemen, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, and other surroundings lands. But remember, Jews are only hated in those areas because they kicked the Palestinians off their land. Glad to see everything was unicorns and rainbows before 1948. They are surrounded by people that hate them just because the are Jewish, despite what you may say. The proof is there. Here is an interesting read.

The Treatment of Jews in Arab/Islamic Countries

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

 

[85SugarVol]

If Hamas enjoys ideological support from Palestinians and Hamas is dead set against a two state solution, what would a two state solution really accomplish?

Hamas has been very clear that they are against a two state solution.
A majority of Palestinians (in the aforementioned polling) also do not believe in a two state solution.

A two state solution might make people like Huff feel less complicit when paying their taxes?