Israel vs Palestinians

[EasternVol]

All people commit violence. Once again, you should look at the rates. One religion does it far more than any other. Idk how you can’t see you.

We're talking about Israel and Palestine. Both sides and the three main local religions have used terrorism there.

 

[Vol8188]

We're talking about Israel and Palestine. Both sides and the three main local religions have used terrorism there.

If Zionism has a terrorism problem as you attempted to proclaim, why can I name Muslim terrorist attacks across the globe, but not “Zionist” nor “Irish” attacks?

 

[Offset Eye]

lol what specifically are you requesting I prove? I’m sure you do great on your high school debate team. Perhaps you should look into some counter arguments to your current positions.

Prove the claim you made. What counter-arguments to my current position should I look into, exactly?

 

[Vol8188]

Prove the claim you made. What counter-arguments to my current position should I look into, exactly?

Do you just like talking in circles? I’ve made a couple of claims. Which specific claim would you like me to prove?

For one you could look at the work that nearly every church does in their community. You could ask yourself why there’s so many hospitals named after saints

 

[85SugarVol]

If Zionism has a terrorism problem as you attempted to proclaim, why can I name Muslim terrorist attacks across the globe, but not “Zionist” nor “Irish” attacks?

He’s saying the Jews & Irish have achieved their goals. Maybe.

 

[Vol8188]

He’s saying the Jews & Irish have achieved their goals. Maybe.

Even then he’s failing to see that islams goal isn’t regional nor is it limited to any one conflict. That’s why we can all name Muslim terrorist attacks across the globe.

It’s a cultural problem that he refuses to accept

 

[Offset Eye]

Do you just like talking in circles? I’ve made a couple of claims. Which specific claim would you like me to prove?

For one you could look at the work that nearly every church does in their community. You could ask yourself why there’s so many hospitals named after saints

I don't talk in circles. The claim you need to prove is the half trillion. And who are these Saints? What significance in any religion do they have? What is your religion, again?

 

[EasternVol]

If Zionism has a terrorism problem as you attempted to proclaim, why can I name Muslim terrorist attacks across the globe, but not “Zionist” nor “Irish” attacks?

Because you're willfully ignorant.

 

[85SugarVol]

Even then he’s failing to see that islams goal isn’t regional nor is it limited to any one conflict. That’s why we can all name Muslim terrorist attacks across the globe.

It’s a cultural problem that he refuses to accept

If the goal for some is to spread Islam to all corners of the globe, I doubt we see a cessation any time soon.

 

[Vol8188]

I don't talk in circles. The claim you need to prove is the half trillion. And who are these Saints? What significance in any religion do they have? What is your religion, again?

Sure. I just glanced at the number quickly so I’m off by about a factor of four. Roughly 1/2 trillion is the overall charitable giving in this country and over 100 billion of that is from religious organizations.

Who are these saints? Do you live in a bubble? There’s numerous hospitals throughout the world named after Saints. Neither my religion nor the religion of any saint is relevant to the question.

If religion is as bad as you believe, how do you explain the massive good that comes from it?

6 charts that illustrate the surprising financial strength of American houses of worship

Fewer people belong to a congregation or identify as Protestant or Catholic. And yet, most congregations say their membership is growing or stable.

theconversation.com

 

[jp1]

Sure. I just glanced at the number quickly so I’m off by about a factor of four. Roughly 1/2 trillion is the overall charitable giving in this country and over 100 billion of that is from religious organizations.

Who are these saints? Do you live in a bubble? There’s numerous hospitals throughout the world named after Saints. Neither my religion nor the religion of any saint is relevant to the question.

If religious is as bad as you believe, how do you explain the massive good that comes from it?

6 charts that illustrate the surprising financial strength of American houses of worship

Fewer people belong to a congregation or identify as Protestant or Catholic. And yet, most congregations say their membership is growing or stable.

theconversation.com

And that is just in this country.

 

[Vol8188]

And that is just in this country.

And doesn’t include the value of people’s time that’s often donated

 

[McDad]

And doesn’t include the value of people’s time that’s often donated

Even if you omit charity, there is an immense amount of art and music masterpieces commissioned by churches.

 

[jp1]

And doesn’t include the value of people’s time that’s often donated

"Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent)."

Religious Faith and Charitable Giving

Believers give more to secular charities than non-believers do

www.hoover.org

 

[Vol8188]

Even if you omit charity, there is an immense amount of art and music masterpieces commissioned by churches.

If only Michaelangelo could’ve reached his full potential

 

[hog88]

If it weren’t for religion how much of the world would have been discovered? Granted, religion is behind a crap load of atrocities throughout history but I chalk that up to the perversion of religion for individual profit.

 

[Offset Eye]

Sure. I just glanced at the number quickly so I’m off by about a factor of four. Roughly 1/2 trillion is the overall charitable giving in this country and over 100 billion of that is from religious organizations.

Who are these saints? Do you live in a bubble? There’s numerous hospitals throughout the world named after Saints. Neither my religion nor the religion of any saint is relevant to the question.

If religion is as bad as you believe, how do you explain the massive good that comes from it?

6 charts that illustrate the surprising financial strength of American houses of worship

Fewer people belong to a congregation or identify as Protestant or Catholic. And yet, most congregations say their membership is growing or stable.

theconversation.com

Looks like that link insinuates American philanthropy is tied to religion but doesn't provide any hard evidence (or any evidence, actually). Nice graphs though.

You brought up the Saints; I didn't. What relevance do the Saints provide other than making someone think that a hospital or facility is holier than others?

Regarding the good that religion provides, I would ask that you explain to me which religions provide good and which ones provide not so good.

 

[Offset Eye]

If it weren’t for religion how much of the world would have been discovered? Granted, religion is behind a crap load of atrocities throughout history but I chalk that up to the perversion of religion for individual profit.

You nailed it with the last sentence.

 

[Offset Eye]

Even if you omit charity, there is an immense amount of art and music masterpieces commissioned by churches.

So, what is the negative that they've commissioned?

 

[Offset Eye]

If only Michaelangelo could’ve reached his full potential

So, you're Catholic?

 

[Offset Eye]

"Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent)."

Religious Faith and Charitable Giving

Believers give more to secular charities than non-believers do

www.hoover.org

Which religious groups? And what are they donating to and volunteering for?

 

[Offset Eye]

Maybe, I should simplify things. I believe in God. 100%. I just don't see the need in organized religion. And with that, we can move on...

 

[hog88]

You nailed it with the last sentence.

Just substitute the word religion for government and you get the same result.

 

[jp1]

Which religious groups? And what are they donating to and volunteering for?

I supplied you with the article.

 

[hog88]

Maybe, I should simplify things. I believe in God. 100%. I just don't see the need in organized religion. And with that, we can move on...

Maybe you should have led with that.