Israel vs Palestinians

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EasternVol said:
I don't know the guy's exact mental state but I'd say he was at least agitated. But you give his growing up in a cult (Tulsi Gabbard anyone?) as an indication of lunacy and then cite his family saying he's crazy as another indication. I suppose he grew in in that cult with his family, so would they be credible judges of sanity?
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I dont need any more information, past him setting himself on fire, to determine if he's mentally unstable.
 
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EasternVol said:
I don't know the guy's exact mental state but I'd say he was at least agitated. But you give him growing up in a cult (Tulsi Gabbard anyone?) as an indication of lunacy and then cite his family saying he's crazy as another indication. I suppose he grew in in that cult with his family, so would they be credible judges of sanity?
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I was looking at it more as he may have been diagnosed as bipolar or manic depressive as a teenager than a matter of their judgement. I'm not inclined to think they'd say-"His F'd up dysfunctional upbringing in our cult family caused severe behavioral disorders", even if that was the case and they had enough self awareness to realize it.

I'll admit, I can't find the article where I thought i saw that. I just now googled and read over 10 seperate daMn articles. Most articles say his family isn't commenting. That article either got pulled, stealth edited, or I got confused and screwed up.

I'll still stand by what I posted earlier and say I think he was dealing with mental illness and just plain F'd in the head.
MemphisVol77 said:
Between referenceing Ras's posts, Bushnell's own reddit posts, and the NY post cult story, I didn't find it necessary to Google that story. It's pretty clear the guy was screwed in the head.
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EasternVol said:
How well do you understand Farsi?
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I don't. But I understand what the direct quote, "this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time" means.

Zionist is just the term for the existence of Israel in Iranian rhetoric. They don't seek anything but their removal from the land. They've made that pretty clear have they not?
 
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EasternVol said:
Zionists attacks after they achieved their objective? Nice try. Let's take Palestinian and Zionist terrorism starting in 1900. They're not so very different. What's the basis for each group's use of terrorism as a political tool?
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Interesting. So you admit you can’t find examples? Weird.

You say it’s because they “achieved their objective”. What do you consider to be the Palestinian objective?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Interesting. So you admit you can’t find examples? Weird.

You say it’s because they “achieved their objective”. What do you consider to be the Palestinian objective?
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You're dancing to not admit that Zionists, Catholics, Communists, and other terrorists have the same nonreligious bases for their actions that Palestinians do.
 
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EasternVol said:
You're dancing to not admit that Zionists, Catholics, Communists, and other terrorists have the same nonreligious bases for their actions that Palestinians do.
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They don’t. You can’t name any recent Zionist nor Irish terrorism, yet I’d have no problem naming examples of Muslim terrorism.

Why is that? I’ve stated my view on why that is, very clearly
 
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Vol8188 said:
They don’t. You can’t name any recent Zionist nor Irish terrorism, yet I’d have no problem naming examples of Muslim terrorism.

Why is that? I’ve stated my view on why that is, very clearly
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You just gave a key to why groups commit terrorism but you're too slow to see it or you don't want to acknowledge it. Continue with your denial of reality.
 
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EasternVol said:
You just gave a key to why groups commit terrorism but you're too slow to see it or you don't want to acknowledge it. Continue with your denial of reality.
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What reality? The reality that includes Muslim terrorism as a serious problem but not Zionist nor Irish terrorism as you tried claiming? Because that’s reality
 
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If there was ever one word to describe human beings inability to reach their full potential, that word would be, 'religion'.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What reality? The reality that includes Muslim terrorism as a serious problem but not Zionist nor Irish terrorism as you tried claiming? Because that’s reality
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Another strawman. Are you trying to set a record? I would tell you to stop lying but I know you can't. The reality is that terrorism has the same basis regardless of the terrorists' religion. The Irish did it and the Zionists did it well before the Palestinians did it. If it's innate in one religion wouldn't it be the orginators'?
 
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Offset Eye said:
That's the best response you've got? Terrible.
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If you’re unaware of all the great that religion has provided the world, I’m not convinced I can explain it to you within the confines of this message board.

But I’d recommend you put a little more thought into your stance there. There’s a massive amount of good done by religion across the world. Roughly half a trillion a year of charity in this country comes from religion.
 
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EasternVol said:
Another strawman. Are you trying to set a record? I would tell you to stop lying but I know you can't. The reality is that terrorism has the same basis regardless of the terrorists' religion. The Irish did it and the Zionists did it well before the Palestinians did it. If it's innate in one religion wouldn't it be the orginators'?
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All people commit violence. Once again, you should look at the rates. One religion does it far more than any other. Idk how you can’t see you.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If you’re unaware of all the great that religion has provided the world, I’m not convinced I can explain it to you within the confines of this message board.

But I’d recommend you put a little more thought into your stance there. There’s a massive amount of good done by religion across the world. Roughly half a trillion a year of charity in this country comes from religion.
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Half a trillion?

I am aware that religion has blinded people from the truth. What is your religion?
 
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Offset Eye said:
Half a trillion?

I am aware that religion has blinded people from the truth. What is your religion?
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Yes, roughly half a trillion. What my religion is, doesn’t matter. That’s not what we are discussing. You made a 12 year old boy style comment, it was dumb. When you grow up, you’ll realize
 
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Vol8188 said:
Yes, roughly half a trillion. What my religion is, doesn’t matter. That’s not what we are discussing. You made a 12 year old boy style comment, it was dumb. When you grow up, you’ll realize
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Prove that. You can't. And, you can't debate me either. Probably best for you to stop talking and avoid embarrassment.
 
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Offset Eye said:
Prove that. You can't. And, you can't debate me either. Probably best for you to stop talking and avoid embarrassment.
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lol what specifically are you requesting I prove? I’m sure you do great on your high school debate team. Perhaps you should look into some counter arguments to your current positions.
 
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