Israel vs Palestinians

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NEO said:
In my lifetime, I have lost friends in Iraq and Afghan over nothing other than extreme Muslim religions causing major issues.
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Why are American boots on the ground in the ME to begin with? Instead of being angry at Muslims over there, be angry at the Americans that get us involved.

NEO said:
Yes, we can do a deep dive on both and find where Bush JR took us into a war that was not needed for many wrong reasons and most the terrorist were from S.A. but at this point I am absolutely wore out with the clear and prominent agenda to weaken and destroy Israel and the US and bolster the worldwide spread of the Muslim religion via mass immigration in countries like Germany and Paris and this country etc.
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Again, be mad at your fellow Americans for leaving the border open and destroying the country from the inside out.

NEO said:
I wouldn’t want to be a women during the Salem witch trials when Protestants weaponized Christianity and I sure as hell am tired of the Muslim religion being weaponized.
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Zbignew Brzezinski was the architect that brought the United States into the practice of weaponizing Islam when we began to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. It worked so well that we continued to weaponize Islam by supporting Chechen militants, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Kurds, Muslim Brotherhood and Free Syrian Army.

So again... your disdain should be aimed at your fellow Americans.

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Palestine was never a state either.
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NEO said:
It as made of three major tribes and the fact no neighboring country wants them in speaks a lot.
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I can think of another group of people that bounced around in Europe and no one wanted, either. What would that say about them?

NEO said:
They are simply used to create proxy wars to hurt Israel the same way we are using Ukraine to hurt Russia. I am fed up with proxy wars and I am fed up with one agenda trumping normal rational rights and thoughts. I am also very pro Israel and will no excuses for it.
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Why not be "very" pro-America?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Why are American boots on the ground in the ME to begin with? Instead of being angry at Muslims over there, be angry at the Americans that get us involved.


Again, be mad at your fellow Americans for leaving the border open and destroying the country from the inside out.


Zbignew Brzezinski was the architect that brought the United States into the practice of weaponizing Islam when we began to support the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. It worked so well that we continued to weaponize Islam by supporting Chechen militants, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Kurds, Muslim Brotherhood and Free Syrian Army.

So again... your disdain should be aimed at your fellow Americans.





I can think of another group of people that bounced around in Europe and no one wanted, either. What would that say about them?


Why not be "very" pro-America?
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Palestine was a British mandate, as were many other places before they became states.
 
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turbovol said:
Palestine was a British mandate, as were many other places before they became states.
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Yep, and before that, it was Ottoman territory. You can choose to have the semantic debate on whether it was a "state" or "territory". The point is that people lived there and were displaced from their lands starting in 1948.
 
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CobbVol said:
Shocking I say ... shocking.

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1. George Soros is Hebrew/Tribe of Issachar (allegedly)
2. The Pritzker family is Hebrew/Jewish
3. From the very article you posted, it says Jewish Voice for Peace is anti-Zionist, not anti-Jewish
4. IfNotNow is a Jewish organization

The majority of the article you posted is talking about Jewish and Hebrew donors supporting these protests. Not CAIR. Not ANTIFA. Not BLM. Not The Russians. Not The Chinese.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Let me think... on Judgement Day, which one will have me sweating in front of St. Peter:
1. Taking down an American flag
2. Supporting a genocide by a supremicist, Zionist regime
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You know Peter won’t be there, right?
Doesn’t matter what religion you follow. Peter won’t be around at your judgement.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You know Peter won’t be there, right?
Doesn’t matter what religion you follow. Peter won’t be around at your judgement.
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I know people that believe that. To them that is as true whatever your belief is. It matters to them and the religion they follow, whether you believe it right or wrong.

You know a green cat floating in a cloud of spaghetti will be at your judgment right? Doesn’t matter what religion you follow. A green talking cat will be there at your judgement.
 
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C/O said:
I know people that believe that. To them that is as true whatever your belief is. It matters to them and the religion they follow, whether you believe it right or wrong.

You know a green cat floating in a cloud of spaghetti will be at your judgment right? Doesn’t matter what religion you follow. A green talking cat will be there at your judgement.
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I’m going to need to see some scripture support for petter and the green cat. Or are you claiming to be a prophet of your gawd
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
There you go.
That sounds more like you.

I disagree on 2 points. First…the no fault of my own….
I spent the last 10 years building a construction company. I sold that company a while back and semi retired. The point, I ran that company on the labor of mostly college students. At one point I ha 25 working for me. Can you guess what my preferred major to hire was? I’m better in tune with you youngsters than one might expect. 2nd. I disagree with this shift in mindset as well. There is definitely a group of pro Hamas dipshits pitching fits right now but they are a very vocal minority. In addition to that, by no fault of your own, your generation has the attention span of a cocker spaniel. Be it technology and social media or whatever, the mob now moves from issue to issue weekly instead of over decades.

We shall see
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One's attention span towards an issue and their attitudes towards that issue are completely separate things.

Older generations would have their attention towards Israel when things were popping off over there and waned when it was calm. That is perfectly normal. However, their attitude towards Israel remained positive and pro-Israel regardless of how much of their attention was directly towards Israeli affairs.

The problem for Israel is not necessarily the attention by younger generations towards the conflict in the present. The problem is their attitude, across millions of people who become more dominate politically with each passing day, towards Israel becoming more negative (and was that before 10/7). The actions of Israel post 10/7 has only accelerated the problem.

If the trends continue into the future, and there is no reason to believe they won't, Israel will become increasingly more isolated and without the resources they currently enjoy. That obviously doesn't bode well for them.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
If the trends continue into the future, and there is no reason to believe they won't, Israel will become increasingly more isolated and without the resources they currently enjoy. That obviously doesn't bode well for them.
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I don't understand. What resources are you talking about?
 
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Criticism of Israel =/= being pro-Palestinian or pro-Hamas.

Criticism of Palestinians or Hamas =/= being pro-Israel.
 
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