Israel vs Palestinians

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Rasputin_Vol said:
It really isn't that hard to understand. That Hebrews/Jews are chosen by God to be superior over all others.
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What is the definition of Zionist?


I'll help you out, it's the perpetuation of a Jewish state.

a supporter of Zionism; a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.

That's the literal definition. Is this really what you're against? If not choose another word.
 
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McDad said:
I'm either one of a few or may be the only one who would rather see government buildings attacked when protesting especially when those protests are against government.
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Glad you understood 'faced covered with a box of inventory' when the person's face isn't covered. Does that code have a key?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Lol by the way.
About a hour ago, my neighbor told me his dipshit son was in a protest at ole Miss. he apparently was one of the many morons chanting “we are Hamas” or something just as stupid. He’s now on a terrorist watch list and on the no fly list.
The reality slaps are beginning already. I wonder how many kids thought they had their face covered and nobody would notice them?
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Cool story but your neighbor is full of it about the lists. At least I hope he is.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Pretty sure many have said (I know I have) that any who broke laws at the Capitol should be held responsible.

The problem with the Capitol is years in prison for breaking the window and illegally entering a building.

Or should 10-20 be the sentence for all who break windows and illegally enter buildings?
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Did they get 10-20 for breaking a window or for something else?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
On what ruling? What was the case?


Saying "I am Hamas" is not the same is yelling fire in a crowded theatre. It certainly is provocative, but not illegal. If someone says "I am MAGA" or "I am a communist", that is grounds for being put on a terror watch list?


Which is a tyrannical process and you damn well know it. If they actually had proof that a person was in a terrorist organization, I might (might) see that angle. But some random guy at Ole Miss saying he is Hamas??? LOL...

This is the only point that we will agree on. The 2020 looters/rioters and the pro-Palestine/anti-Zionist protesters are indeed not the same thing. I never claimed they were the same.
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-Look it up.
-claiming to be a member of a terrorist organization is stupidity as has consequences, deal with them or don’t do it.
-The second someone acts after making a statement like that someone like you would be screeching that they should have known. If you claim stupidity then you get what you deserve.
-you make comparisons all the time as if these some central authority who decided to prosecute some and not others. Different authority’s make different decisions. That doesn’t mean there’s a problem. Deal with your grievances on a case by case basis
 
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85SugarVol said:
There is no illegal speech, only illegal infringement on others personal property rights.

The purest, most basic, of all property rights - our right to our own self.
You cannot own me, you cannot harm me, without violating/infringing on my own property right over myself.

Yelling “fire” is not illegal. It’s the likely disturbance that will ensue (same as “bomb” on a plane).

When you set off a panic in the theater, you -
1. Cause the theater owner harm
2. Cause the patrons harm

You can’t do that.

I watched Cocaine Bear in downtown Memphis recently (always an interesting atmosphere lol).
Plenty of yelling at the screen.
At one point a fellow patron yelled out “set that mother effin bear on fire!”

No one reacted. No rush to the exits. No harm, no foul.
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You’re correct. It’s the intent that is legalized.
 
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For those interested in the no fly list.
Currently there are reforms that are being required after the recent case. You now have to be informed about being on the list and why (duh) the appeals process has to be reformed. But the majority of the reasons for being put on the list remain intact, including claiming to be a member of a terrorist network or group.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m curious how these kids are going to feel about the situation as the Palestinian leadership continues to promote the execution of homosexuals while the Israeli government they think they don’t like is the most progressive in the Middle East. Like I said, this will be a blip in history and reality will slap these children in the face soon enough
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No need to be curious, pretty clear that pinkwashing and hiding behind being “progressive” isn’t an effective PR strategy anymore
 
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NashVol11 said:
No need to be curious, pretty clear that pinkwashing and hiding behind being “progressive” isn’t an effective PR strategy anymore
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We will see.
3 videos in the last week with Hamas leaders saying homosexuals get the death penalty under Islamic law is going to move the needle
 
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The fact is that Israel has been terrorizing Palestinians in ways large and small for some 60 years--stealing their land, stealing their homes,
stealing their water, killing people arbitrarily, overreacting to any violent acts of resistance with grossly disproportionate violence of their own--as we've seen with Gaza. And the U.S.--and in particular the usual craven U.S. politicians--has been complicit in Israel's oppression of the Pals. Worse, we've in many way let Israel lead US around by the nose. We've seldom done anything substantive to stop the decades-long building of Israeli settlements on stolen Palestinian land--our typical response being a weak diplomatic "tsk-tsk"---"we really wish you'd stop doing it."

The Israeli right wing pays no attention to our wishes--and then we keep selling Israel more weaponry and providing billions in other annual aid. And of course America's religious zanies all support Israel, and thus their GOP congressional strongly do the same. The U.S. has done nothing to effect a settlement for decades--and thus the conflict has dragged on and on, the Israelis stealing more and more land: That is their intention. And they've been playing Americans with their BS propaganda for decades as well. The Hamas attack on Israelis completely plays into the long Israeli propaganda narrative--that Pals are the problem.

The situation has long been the equivalent of how Americans treated slaves and their descendants---oppressing them, depriving them of rights and freedoms, discriminating against them, and then when the oppressed rise up and resist, the oppressors point at the oppressed and scream, "See! Look at what savages they are. They want to hurt us"---and use that transparent excuse to stomp on the other side.

It's good to see American students say, "enough."
 
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EasternVol said:
Did they get 10-20 for breaking a window or for something else?
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I believe it’s the juiced Enron charge, when all they really did was illegally enter.

Would be like actually hitting the Keffiyeh Kids with the kidnapping charge, when all most did was illegally enter.
 
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turbovol said:
The fact is that Israel has been terrorizing Palestinians in ways large and small for some 60 years--stealing their land, stealing their homes,
stealing their water, killing people arbitrarily, overreacting to any violent acts of resistance with grossly disproportionate violence of their own--as we've seen with Gaza. And the U.S.--and in particular the usual craven U.S. politicians--has been complicit in Israel's oppression of the Pals. Worse, we've in many way let Israel lead US around by the nose. We've seldom done anything substantive to stop the decades-long building of Israeli settlements on stolen Palestinian land--our typical response being a weak diplomatic "tsk-tsk"---"we really wish you'd stop doing it."

The Israeli right wing pays no attention to our wishes--and then we keep selling Israel more weaponry and providing billions in other annual aid. And of course America's religious zanies all support Israel, and thus their GOP congressional strongly do the same. The U.S. has done nothing to effect a settlement for decades--and thus the conflict has dragged on and on, the Israelis stealing more and more land: That is their intention. And they've been playing Americans with their BS propaganda for decades as well. The Hamas attack on Israelis completely plays into the long Israeli propaganda narrative--that Pals are the problem.

The situation has long been the equivalent of how Americans treated slaves and their descendants---oppressing them, depriving them of rights and freedoms, discriminating against them, and then when the oppressed rise up and resist, the oppressors point at the oppressed and scream, "See! Look at what savages they are. They want to hurt us"---and use that transparent excuse to stomp on the other side.

It's good to see American students say, "enough."
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Time for these students to get on board with their ancestors and stand against the Saracen threat!
 
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Way back early in this thread, I stated that the longer this drug out with Israeli troops, the more public opinion would go against them. I stated they should have just used special forces/spy apparatus to strike back.

To be honest, not sure why we are sending them money when they have a First World Economy and can support themselves.

Then again, a lot doesn't make sense. I don't see how people could defend Palestinians when they crapped all over our ancestors in the Middle Ages slaughtering Christians throughout the Middle East in the name of Islam and Jihad and trying to attack Europe.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You can hope in one hand and **** in the other….
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Let me put it another way. People don't get put on those lists in this country for making purely rhetorical statements, with no intention by them of making a threat and no reasonable interpretation by others of a threat being made.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Way back early in this thread, I stated that the longer this drug out with Israeli troops, the more public opinion would go against them. I stated they should have just used special forces/spy apparatus to strike back.

To be honest, not sure why we are sending them money when they have a First World Economy and can support themselves.

Then again, a lot doesn't make sense. I don't see how people could defend Palestinians when they crapped all over our ancestors in the Middle Ages slaughtering Christians throughout the Middle East in the name of Islam and Jihad and trying to attack Europe.
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You're saying the Orthodox and Armenian Palestinians killed in the name of Islam? Who knew?
 
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