Israel vs Palestinians

[85SugarVol]

Some of these people believe taking hostages is a get out of jail free card

It’s astonishing what standards and behaviors we are apparently looking to establish.

Hide behind women and children in refugee camps - you should be safe there.
If you can make it home to your living room - you are safe there.
Seize American hostages - you will be shielded from action.

 

[EasternVol]

To win a stupid argument and sway public opinion.

Do I think we value what has been our staunchest ally in the ME, have we asked at time what their thoughts/position were on certain intelligence or official positions? Yes. Do we walk on eggshells around their wishes and defer to their will? No.

If you look at Massey's current and Traficant's former constituencies it sure seems like it would be to their political benefit to praise Israel. You may want to look into how much money our politicians get from supporters of Israel, and how we bend over backward to support Israel, and think if that may be linked.

 

[EasternVol]

So just allow the terrorists free run and sanctuary. Brilliant.

Memory failing is it? No, targeted killings of upper management.

 

[EasternVol]

Two separate issues from the same post.and calling out one dipstick.
Try and keep up

Both issues answered. Very simple.
Saying most of a certain group of people are **** humans isn't calling out one dipstick.

 

[85SugarVol]

Memory failing is it? No, targeted killings of upper management.

No, I’m targeting all levels of management. As well as the front line workers. And the 3rd party contractors.

Wherever they choose to stand.

 

[EasternVol]

No, I’m targeting all levels of management. As well as the front line workers. And the 3rd party contractors.

Wherever they choose to stand.

And you'll get a whole lot of people that had nothing to do with it, as well as a lot of hostages.

 

[85SugarVol]

And you'll get a whole lot of people that had nothing to do with it, as well as a lot of hostages.

A lot of hostages? Nah, I’m pretty surgical.

How are we going to get a whole lot of innocent people by targeting the Hamas organization?

 

[EasternVol]

A lot of hostages? Nah, I’m pretty surgical.

How are we going to get a whole lot of innocent people by targeting the Hamas organization?

According to hamas (yeah, I know) the IDF killed three hostages including an American during the raid that freed the four. They also killed over 200 innocents. If that's surgical then don't practice medicine. The toll's reported at 270 so I'm being generous with the count of hamas operatives included.

 

[85SugarVol]

According to hamas (yeah, I know) the IDF killed three hostages including an American during the raid that freed the four. They also killed over 200 innocents. If that's surgical then don't practice medicine. The toll's reported at 270 so I'm being generous with the count of hamas operatives included.

Yea, you’re right. I’m not buying anything the esteemed Freedom Fighters are selling.

And I’m much more surgical’er than IDF.

How do all these innocents keep ending up between Hamas & IDF?

 

[volfanhill]

Good to know Israel is supposed to care more about civilian Gaza deaths than Gazan leadership does

In one message to Hamas leaders in Doha, Sinwar cited civilian losses in national-liberation conflicts in places such as Algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from France, saying, “these are necessary sacrifices.”

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www.wsj.com

Also, can this make the stupid question of "why would hamas hide in civilian areas" stop?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Both issues answered. Very simple.
Saying most of a certain group of people are **** humans isn't calling out one dipstick.

Nope
You completely missed it.
I call one guy a **** human. Directed straight at him.
And you’re still talking about what you want me to say instead of what I said.


Shocker


Here’s a question for you.
Why do you care ?
This conversation has nothing to do with you.
Maybe you should stop carrying water for SBs

 

[EasternVol]

Yea, you’re right. I’m not buying anything the esteemed Freedom Fighters are selling.

And I’m much more surgical’er than IDF.

How do all these innocents keep ending up between Hamas & IDF?

From a NYT headline: When a truck carrying three of four rescued hostages broke down and came under fire, Israel says it called in an airstrike. Scores of Palestinians were killed, Gazan officials say. After Weeks of Planning, Seconds Made the Difference in Israel’s Hostage Rescue

 

[EasternVol]

Nope
You completely missed it.
I call one guy a **** human. Directed straight at him.
And you’re still talking about what you want me to say instead of what I said.


Shocker


Here’s a question for you.
Why do you care ?
This conversation has nothing to do with you.
Maybe you should stop carrying water for SBs

I'm talking about what you wrote, which was exactly: "Not unlike Christians they think they are the only way and you must convert or die. Some good but most, like that guy are **** humans" . There's no other interpretation and that's not directed at one person.
edit: pointing out the text in question

 

[85SugarVol]

From a NYT headline: When a truck carrying three of four rescued hostages broke down and came under fire, Israel says it called in an airstrike. Scores of Palestinians were killed, Gazan officials say. After Weeks of Planning, Seconds Made the Difference in Israel’s Hostage Rescue

Yes you keep focusing on the hostage ops. Always fraught those are.

But just the general prosecution of the war. Why would me targeting Hamas get a bunch of innocent civilians killed?

 

[CobbVol]

From a NYT headline: When a truck carrying three of four rescued hostages broke down and came under fire, Israel says it called in an airstrike. Scores of Palestinians were killed, Gazan officials say. After Weeks of Planning, Seconds Made the Difference in Israel’s Hostage Rescue

The bolded statement is deeply concerning for the truth.

 

[85SugarVol]

Good to know Israel is supposed to care more about civilian Gaza deaths than Gazan leadership does

In one message to Hamas leaders in Doha, Sinwar cited civilian losses in national-liberation conflicts in places such as Algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from France, saying, “these are necessary sacrifices.”

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www.wsj.com

Also, can this make the stupid question of "why would hamas hide in civilian areas" stop?

They sacrifice their own children. Why would they give a flying fluck about the Baker down the street?

 

[EasternVol]

Yes you keep focusing on the hostage ops. Always fraught those are.

But just the general prosecution of the war. Why would me targeting Hamas get a bunch of innocent civilians killed?

That doesn't mesh with what you posted before: We should have unleashed a hell upon them that would have the Gazans begging for the Israelis back. So are you for surgical strikes or unleashing a hell on earth?

 

[Orangeslice13]

I'm talking about what you wrote, which was exactly: "Not unlike Christians they think they are the only way and you must convert or die. Some good but most, like that guy are **** humans" . There's no other interpretation and that's not directed at one person.

Yes.
You’ve completely missed what happened.
Instead you’re grasping at straws to make it something it’s not.


The Muslim in question and **** human being called me, a Jew, a white supremacist. That’s calling out one guy who happens to be Muslim, not a group. My response was “the Jews will not replace us” a common thing said by WS D bags. That’s making fun of that guy not calling out another group. If you don’t get the sarcasm of a Jew claiming that he won’t be replaced by Jews the you’re even dumber than I thought.

Everyone else reading understands I was using sarcasm.


The only reason I’m bothering to explain it to you is I want you to be aware of how stupid you are.


Edit: don’t get me wrong, I think most people who identify as “Christian or Muslim “ are **** humans too. Most religion thumpers are huge hypocrites. Not all but a large portion give the rest a bad name.


Edit: fixed so even middleEasternVol can see it.

 

[EasternVol]

Yes.
You’ve completely missed what happened.
Instead you’re grasping at straws to make it something it’s not.


The Muslim in question and **** human being called me, a Jew, a white supremacist. That’s calling out one guy who happens to be Muslim, not a group. My response was “the Jews will not replace us” a common thing said by WS D bags. That’s making fun of that guy not calling out another group. If you don’t get the sarcasm of a Jew claiming that he won’t be replaced by Jews the you’re even dumber than I thought.

Everyone else reading understands I was using sarcasm.


The only reason I’m bothering to explain it to you is I want you to be aware of how stupid you are.


Edit: don’t get me wrong, I think most people who identify as “Christian or Muslim “ are **** humans too. Most religion thumpers are huge hypocrites. Not all but a large portion give the rest a bad name.

So you did mean what you wrote. Confirmed you need to get out more and meet people. There are a lot of sincere religious people out there.

 

[theFallGuy]

Gaza journalist who wrote for Al Jazeera was holding 3 hostages in home with family, Israel says

A Gaza journalist was holding three hostages in his home with his family before he was killed by Israeli commandos during a rescue operation on Saturday, according to the Israeli military.

nypost.com

 

[85SugarVol]

That doesn't mesh with what you posted before: We should have unleashed a hell upon them that would have the Gazans begging for the Israelis back. So are you for surgical strikes or unleashing a hell on earth?

Oh I can do both. Surgical when hostages are in harm’s way. Not so much when it’s just a Hamas book club meeting down at the local Y.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So you did mean what you wrote. Confirmed you need to get out more and meet people. There are a lot of sincere religious people out there.

I didn’t say there weren’t.


other than being stupid, why are you inserting yourself into this?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Why is that?

I don’t know, why do you think he’s **** human being?

 

[volfanhill]

This isn't a "mistake" by cnn.

CNN guest calls out network for saying Israelis rescued from Hamas was 'hostage release'

Eurasia Group president Ian Bremmer said that he was "disappointed to see" CNN's misleading news chyron calling an Israeli operation to rescue hostages a "release."

www.yahoo.com

 

[EasternVol]

Yes.
You’ve completely missed what happened.
Instead you’re grasping at straws to make it something it’s not.


The Muslim in question and **** human being called me, a Jew, a white supremacist. That’s calling out one guy who happens to be Muslim, not a group. My response was “the Jews will not replace us” a common thing said by WS D bags. That’s making fun of that guy not calling out another group. If you don’t get the sarcasm of a Jew claiming that he won’t be replaced by Jews the you’re even dumber than I thought.

Everyone else reading understands I was using sarcasm.


The only reason I’m bothering to explain it to you is I want you to be aware of how stupid you are.


Edit: don’t get me wrong, I think most people who identify as “Christian or Muslim “ are **** humans too. Most religion thumpers are huge hypocrites. Not all but a large portion give the rest a bad name.


Edit: fixed so even middleEasternVol can see it.

It's easy to see.