Israel vs Palestinians

[n_huffhines]

This is more of it, but no link to Khalil that I've seen

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/PDF.pdf

It's the flimsiest of charges. Find a couple people who hate Palestinians who will testify they saw him. Gone.

 

[n_huffhines]

Now, can you reference where the op-ed has been mentioned anywhere by the WH?

There is nothing wrong or illegal with organizing group protests.

 

[McDad]

What is a guest visa?
ATF says resident furiners can indeed own guns:

May aliens legally in the United States purchase firearms? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

An alien legally in the U.S. is not prohibited from purchasing firearms unless the alien is admitted into the U.S. under a nonimmigrant visa and does not meet one of the exceptions as provided in 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2), such as possession of a valid hunting license or permit. [18 U.S.C. 922 (d)(5)...

www.atf.gov

Idk what a furiner is.

in your results blurb it mentioned nonimmigrant visa. that is what I am calling a guest visa.

 

[Smokey123]

There is nothing wrong or illegal with organizing group protests.

Handing out terrorist propaganda is a violation of the rules and guidelines lol. We established this yesterday

 

[NashVol11]

It's the flimsiest of charges. Find a couple people who hate Palestinians who will testify they saw him. Gone.

100%. Appears to be based on the "Hamas logo" on the pamphlet, it's so stupid that people are cheerleading this

 

[NashVol11]

Idk what a furiner is.

Foreigner I assume, but it took me a second earlier too

 

[McDad]

Sure and I'm not sure the argument against. Are there no checks when they get the visa? If they're so dangerous why are they allowed in?

I think we need fewer gun laws overall for everyone. The WH tweeted a pic of the VP doing something that is illegal for a citizen to own (unless you pay the 2nd amendment fee). I think we should all enjoy that freedom

That's an interesting perspective.

If a constitutionally protected right of bearing arms is prohibited, is it a surprise that other rights are conditional for guest visa holders?

 

[McDad]

Foreigner I assume, but it took me a second earlier too

My computer offered furry as a suggestion.

I don't know if AMerica allows in people who have a fetish of dressing like an animal.

 

[McDad]

They can buy a gun if they have a hunting license or carry permit.

I haven't scoured the internet and researched every nuance. The site I looked at said guest visa holders are prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm.

 

[hog88]

I haven't scoured the internet and researched every nuance. The site I looked at said guest visa holders are prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm.

For the most part they are but like everything there are exceptions.

 

[utvolpj]

That's an interesting perspective.

If a constitutionally protected right of bearing arms is prohibited, is it a surprise that other rights are conditional for guest visa holders?

Anything after "shall not be infringed" is an artificial limit placed by govt. Limiting a citizen or a visitor seems to be the same

 

[McDad]

When they come here they agree to a standard and a set of rules. One is that their status can be revoked at any time and they have to leave pending any appeal or reapplication.

Did they not understand what that meant?

This is my understanding as well. And, the reasons for revocation of visa can be very flimsy.

This isn't a constitutional rights issue. It may need to be. But it currently isn't as far as application of the rules of visas

 

[Smokey123]

100%. Appears to be based on the "Hamas logo" on the pamphlet, it's so stupid that people are cheerleading this

Al-Aqsa flood is what Hamas called 10/7, and the pamphlet is nothing more than Hamas propaganda

 

[McDad]

There is nothing wrong or illegal with organizing group protests.

Handing out terrorist propaganda is a violation of the rules and guidelines lol. We established this yesterday

You both are right.

 

[McDad]

For the most part they are but like everything there are exceptions.

You know this because of your Australia friends?

 

[McDad]

Anything after "shall not be infringed" is an artificial limit placed by govt. Limiting a citizen or a visitor seems to be the same

Maybe. Now that we've been discussing this for a few days, I am not sure those ideals are applied to globally or the citizens of the US.

At any rate, if applied globally, then there are several unconstitutional laws applied to people here as guests.

 

[EasternVol]

Idk what a furiner is.

in your results blurb it mentioned nonimmigrant visa. that is what I am calling a guest visa.

That says those on non-immigrant visas can have guns under certain conditions.

 

[hog88]

You know this because of your Australia friends?

No, like me they are anti-gun. Wouldn't touch one of those evil death dealers.

But they will have full green cards so they would be legally able to buy a gun.

 

[McDad]

That says those on non-immigrant visas can have guns under certain conditions.

Yeah. Hog mentioned that a bit after my post. I read that explanation as saying this:
the default position is prohibited unless there is a legitimate reason to reconsider.

Don't you think the principle of unequal application of constitutional rights still stand wrt to visa holders and citizens?

 

[NashVol11]

 

[Orange_Crush]

Again, I don't believe rights are granted by govt they are only taken away.

And it sounds like the gov't considers some of these to be privileges when you are here by privilege, thus have taken them away.

 

[McDad]

And it sounds like the gov't considers some of these to be privileges when you are here by privilege, thus have taken them away.

It seems that way to me too. Honestly, would not have had that opinion had you asked me in the blind about it a year ago.

 

[Orange_Crush]

It's the flimsiest of charges. Find a couple people who hate Palestinians who will testify they saw him. Gone.

"Crossfire Fart in the Wind"?

 

[Orange_Crush]

There is nothing wrong or illegal with organizing group protests.

Immigration Law does not need a crime to deport.

 

[utvolpj]

And it sounds like the gov't considers some of these to be privileges when you are here by privilege, thus have taken them away.

Then they simply aren't actual rights and the us govt does not view them as such. I'm glad to get the admission out in the open