It has occurred to me....

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I guess maybe I termed it wrong from the get go. Maybe we have moved too fast in technology for the people to keep up with it and stay educated.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I guess maybe I termed it wrong from the get go. Maybe we have moved too fast in technology for the people to keep up with it and stay educated.
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that is indeed a problem. people need to wake up and realize that the chances that you will be in the same industry and same company for 40 years is pretty slim the way the world is changing. interestingly i saw an article recently that showed far less employee loyalty among people under 30 than in the older generation. the article implied this was a bad thing, but in reality they are just more with the times.
 
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droski said:
that is indeed a problem. people need to wake up and realize that the chances that you will be in the same industry and same company for 40 years is pretty slim the way the world is changing. interestingly i saw an article recently that showed far less employee loyalty among people under 30 than in the older generation. the article implied this was a bad thing, but in reality they are just more with the times.
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And it definitely puts a strain on those 40+ to pick up and learn a new trade.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
And it definitely puts a strain on those 40+ to pick up and learn a new trade.
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yup very difficult. i myself am considering somewhat of a career change (same industry different side) and the primary driving reason is that i know 4 or 5 years from now i'll be considered to old/inexperienced to hire (or at least to old to hire at a the same salary i'm currently making).
 
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droski said:
compared to whom? certainly not the united states.
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It's also got far fewer people than the US. It's economy, in nominal GDP, is stronger than Japan in per capita and greater (obviously) doubling France's size. Total GDP in the EU is greater than the US.

Lets compare some top US states in terms of gross economy and population for a fair comparison, New York, Pennsylvania and Texas.

Population:
France: 62,000,000
New Texylvania: 58,000,000

Economy (nominal GDP)
France: 2.6 trillion
New Texylvania: 2.8 trillion

Compare those numbers with the amount of the salary that is levied for paying for privatized insurance and additional earning spread out over 10 extra working hours (if you're lucky and only work 40 hours a week) and 2 fewer weeks of vacation time. I don't know how much of either salary will see the actual workers pockets once A) insurance and banks get a hold of it or B) the government gets a hold of it.

Either way, France isn't doing too bad. Saying otherwise is fallacy.
 
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i wasn't talking about the size of the economy, but the GDP growth rate and the unemployment rate over the prior 20 years.
 
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droski said:
i wasn't talking about the size of the economy, but the GDP growth rate and the unemployment rate over the prior 20 years.
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I'm not even going to try to make the stance that France's economy can compare to the US in growth or in breadth. Your point earlier is spot on. Fewer people get hired for work as, once their hired, they're impossible to cut loose. I abhor that system.

One thing of note: tourism is huge in France and with the world's economy having severely contracted and is just now (possibly) showing signs of recovery it will be interesting to see the long term effects that has had on the French economy (and that of all of Europe for that matter).
 
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CountVolcula said:
Greed, and the American want for cheap prices has killed more jobs than technology. Just ask the 100,000+ employed overeseas by American companies. Imports have done the fair share of the damage too.
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It always amazes me that people want to talk about jobs that have been exported but totally ignore the jobs that have been imported.
 
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Oh, I did see that. Thought it was gay and never checked back in. It must have gotten interesting if they had to close it. I'll read it when I get a minute.
 
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i'm going to italy this summer. one trip to france was enough. :)

of course the italians are socialists too.
 
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