It is stuff like this that makes you want to smack Obama!

#77
#77
TennNC said:
for real? you baiting me? b/c if you burn me, i won't be fooled again.
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I have books about McCain and his stay in the Hilton. I admire him on a lot of levels but I cannot stand him as a politician.

Even with something as critical as the next election and I will not vote for him.

Why is that?
 
#78
#78
TennNC said:
here here!

there is a time for every purpose.

Bill wasn't running. Hillary was. And it's not 1992. It's 2008.
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We all have to be honest with ourselves, the Clintons are not choirboys and schoolgirls.... they made their bed and they are living with the consequences.
 
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#80
volinbham said:
Did she say only reason?
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"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position."

I deduce that she's attributing it to the combination of his skin color and gender. If he weren't a black man, he wouldn't have received the support he did.
 
#82
#82
TennNC said:
That is the truth! We don't really know. In fact, we don't really know exactly why we vote for a person or not.

I'm being serious. We try to be rational about it and say it's b/c of x,y,z policies, etc. But there are a whole host of reasons that go beyond our comprehension. Which is why we will almost always vote for someone who passes the gut check.
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I can tell you staright up why i'm voting for MCain. Not because of his policies... actually in spite of them. It's more of an anti-Obama vote than a pro McCain vote.
 
#83
#83
TennNC said:
"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position."

I deduce that she's attributing it to the combination of his skin color and gender. If he weren't a black man, he wouldn't have received the support he did.
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I see that as the same as OE's comment - his skin color is influencing other people to support him more than they would if he were white or female.

His blackness isn't affecting his ability, it's affecting how other see him. It is a positive (but not the only) effect on his support. (according to GF).
 
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#84
volsforever27 said:
I can tell you staright up why i'm voting for MCain. Not because of his policies... actually in spite of them. It's more of an anti-Obama vote than a pro McCain vote.
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Don't vote for McCain and force the GOP to change their current politic stance.

Hit them where it hurts!
 
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#85
OrangeEmpire said:
Don't vote for McCain and force the GOP to change their current politic stance.

Hit them where it hurts!
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I know losing would help the GOP in a sense, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to risk 4-8 years of Obama and a D run House and Senate for it.
 
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#87
volsforever27 said:
I know losing would help the GOP in a sense, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to risk 4-8 years of Obama and a D run House and Senate for it.
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You act like things could get worse. When the country is at rock bottom, there's nowhere to go but up.
 
#88
#88
OrangeEmpire said:
As TRUT put it, see it as punting and playing defense. I would rather have congress back!
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There's only one problem... you're thinking that after Obama is POTUS for 2 years, the R's will take it back. It all depends on who's running. If it's another set of RINO's, they're going to lose again.
 
#90
#90
OWB said:
You act like things could get worse. When the country is at rock bottom, there's nowhere to go but up.
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Oh, I don't know...... the government expanding beyond what Bush did.

Yeah.... that is going up!
 
#91
#91
OWB said:
You act like things could get worse. When the country is at rock bottom, there's nowhere to go but up.
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leave to the Dem to get all emotional with the arguments and completely quit making any sense.
 
#92
#92
volsforever27 said:
There's only one problem... you're thinking that after Obama is POTUS for 2 years, the R's will take it back. It all depends on who's running. If it's another set of RINO's, they're going to lose again.
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Hit em' where it hurts........... they won't back bluedog democrats any more!
 
#93
#93
Let's add the context on Ferraro's commentary. It was comparing treatment in the press of Clinton vs Obama

Ferraro, a Clinton supporter, made the comments while arguing the former first lady hasn't gotten a fair shake from the press.

"For one thing, you have the press, which has been uniquely hard on her," Ferraro said. "It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign."
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Ferraro was unrepentant about her comments. She said she has a 40-year history of opposing all kinds of discrimination and that she was speaking from a historical context, noting that she would not have been chosen as Walter Mondale’s running mate in 1984 if she had been a man.
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His race is an extra factor in his popularity with some (the press in particular) - I believe that is all she was trying to say.
 
#95
#95
OWB said:
You can blame Bush for any high taxes too. We have slim down the record setting debt we've acquired under Bush somehow.
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Bush is an idiot!

Just imagine how much worse it will get with more spending!
 
#96
#96
OWB said:
You can blame Bush for any high taxes too. We have slim down the record setting debt we've acquired under Bush somehow.
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If you want to pay more, go ahead. Otherwise I'll take the smarter approach and say maybe they should learn to spend wiser like every American has to.

Leave my wallet alone.
 
#97
#97
volsforever27 said:
If you want to pay more, go ahead. Otherwise I'll take the smarter approach and say maybe they should learn to spend wiser like every American has to.

Leave my wallet alone.
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Yes, we all know you Republicans don't want to sacrifice anything, especially when it comes to money.
 
#98
#98
OWB said:
You can blame Bush for any high taxes too. We have slim down the record setting debt we've acquired under Bush somehow.
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at least save the excuse making until he has a reasonable chance of winning. Then when you start, add 9/11 to the Clinton slate and the massive welfare state to FDR.

Then, since you've properly placed 9/11 in the proper place, you can split the blame for Iraq between the last 2 admins. Surely your hero clinocchio knew his inaction would lead Bush the Idiot into Iraq.
 
#100
#100
OWB said:
Yes, we all know you Republicans don't want to sacrifice anything, especially when it comes to money.
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I'm all for you sacrificing. Knock your bad self out. I'll PM you my address.

Goodness knows the Republicans can't afford it after paying the lion's share of the taxes actually being paid.
 
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