It tyler bray mad?

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hillccs said:
Where are the Bray lovers? Sometimes they jump on these first thing, getting less ans less a Volnation problem. Rather have Worley and his flaws then Bray.
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I will bite. Bray routinely put up better numbers in one half than Worley does in a game. Anyone who says they'd rather have Worley than Bray is completely ignorant. It's crazy how you idiots can place so much blame on a guy who averaged about 300 yds a game, but love a guy that can't even hit wide open targets half the time. If bray had this defense last year we would've lost one maybe two games.
 
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jarnol32 said:
I will bite. Bray routinely put up better numbers in one half than Worley does in a game. Anyone who says they'd rather have Worley than Bray is completely ignorant. It's crazy how you idiots can place so much blame on a guy who averaged about 300 yds a game, but love a guy that can't even hit wide open targets half the time. If bray had this defense last year we would've lost one maybe two games.
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Yeah, I don't get some of the people on here that act like he was the problem. I'm sure Tyler would have played very well for Butch. The only part that makes any sense are the people pointing out that even if he stayed he would be benched because of the money thing.
 
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rickyb712 said:
Just wanted to say imo think we would be 6-1 if tyler bray would have stayed. He didnt know about pig,north, croom, lane,neal,smith, and our bad azz defense. PLUS HE MIGHT HAVE GOT DRAFTED HIGHER
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6-1

Is an assumption.

Assume = A$$ U Me. I ain't buying it.

Bray would have been on the couch with couch had he stayed. That is a Fact.

Bray Presence would have resulted in the other QBs having less time and Snaps during Spring and Fall.
That is an Assumption but a strong one.

Bray may have caused a major adjustment to the New Offensive Scheme and therefore causing us to be behind the power curve. (Assumption)

Neal and Lane would have never developed with Bray in the lineup. (Assumption)

We probably would not have recruited Dobbs. (Assumption)

Bray would have continued to have the same attitude with CBJ as he did with Dooley. (History could be Fact and Assumption that it repeats itself)

Bray may have gotten drafted (assumption) Fact is he would have gotten drafted higher because there is nowhere to go but up from not being drafted.

Bray is gone. Fact. So what if yourself to death.
 
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jarnol32 said:
I will bite. Bray routinely put up better numbers in one half than Worley does in a game. Anyone who says they'd rather have Worley than Bray is completely ignorant. It's crazy how you idiots can place so much blame on a guy who averaged about 300 yds a game, but love a guy that can't even hit wide open targets half the time. If bray had this defense last year we would've lost one maybe two games.
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How many times did Bray beat South Carolina?
 
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GLDunlap said:
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This former Vol long snapper will make $630,000.00 this year and $730,000.00 next year which is $230,000.00 per year more then Bray.

I'm going to go practice my snapping now.
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Nice incomes figures but there are no guarantees in the NFL. If cut, he would get zero next year minus any guarantees he has in the contract. But keep snapping; the pay is great as long as they will keep you.
 
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jarnol32 said:
I will bite. Bray routinely put up better numbers in one half than Worley does in a game. Anyone who says they'd rather have Worley than Bray is completely ignorant. It's crazy how you idiots can place so much blame on a guy who averaged about 300 yds a game, but love a guy that can't even hit wide open targets half the time. If bray had this defense last year we would've lost one maybe two games.
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TreeGreen said:
Yeah, I don't get some of the people on here that act like he was the problem. I'm sure Tyler would have played very well for Butch. The only part that makes any sense are the people pointing out that even if he stayed he would be benched because of the money thing.
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Had CBJ been here last year with this staff you are right 2 games at max.

Bray was all about Bray. He was a problem with a tremendous talent, but it requires leadership also which he never stepped up to the plate to get.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Had CBJ been here last year with this staff you are right 2 games at max.

Bray was all about Bray. He was a problem with a tremendous talent, but it requires leadership also which he never stepped up to the plate to get.
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Bray had no leadership from the top, nor did he seem interested in leading. He thought he was playing for Kiff, and ended up being stuck with Dooley. I would have been pissed off too.
 
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Lexvol said:
Bray had no leadership from the top, nor did he seem interested in leading. He thought he was playing for Kiff, and ended up being stuck with Dooley. I would have been pissed off too.
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Don't blame him for his decision. I don't dislike him for making it. He had a choice and it will work out for him. It already has. He is a talent and I am happy for him. We all would be pissed off if in his shoes, but that doesn't mean you don't just go off on your own. Not releasing him was a mistake, but we were all butt hurt.

Life is about the 10% that happens to you and the 90% of how you deal with it. He took money, he bolted. His choice his decision. To be honest, I felt sorry for him because Kiffin screwed him and us in the process, but I felt sorry for all the other players also that Kiffin screwed over.

The Ky game was a power and a control move between Dooley and Bray. Bray seemed to care less if the winning streak or Bowl game went down the tubes because he knew that Dooley would take it in the shorts.

I never want to see another locker room video stating it was an accomplishment that we beat Vandy. That is when most of us knew that it was we had not hit bottom yet. KY the next week was it. Bray laid down for that game because he didn't want to be with Dooley another 2+weeks and in the process he let the fans and other players around him down.

Leaders don't do that and this was a selfish move on his part. Had Dooley been a coach and leader this would have never gotten to this point. But it did and we all suffered.
 
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1982Alum said:
Nice incomes figures but there are no guarantees in the NFL. If cut, he would get zero next year minus any guarantees he has in the contract. But keep snapping; the pay is great as long as they will keep you.
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My current job has no guarantees and the pay sucks as long as they will keep me.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Don't blame him for his decision. I don't dislike him for making it. He had a choice and it will work out for him. It already has. He is a talent and I am happy for him. We all would be pissed off if in his shoes, but that doesn't mean you don't just go off on your own. Not releasing him was a mistake, but we were all butt hurt.

Life is about the 10% that happens to you and the 90% of how you deal with it. He took money, he bolted. His choice his decision. To be honest, I felt sorry for him because Kiffin screwed him and us in the process, but I felt sorry for all the other players also that Kiffin screwed over.

The Ky game was a power and a control move between Dooley and Bray. Bray seemed to care less if the winning streak or Bowl game went down the tubes because he knew that Dooley would take it in the shorts.

I never want to see another locker room video stating it was an accomplishment that we beat Vandy. That is when most of us knew that it was we had not hit bottom yet. KY the next week was it. Bray laid down for that game because he didn't want to be with Dooley another 2+weeks and in the process he let the fans and other players around him down.

Leaders don't do that and this was a selfish move on his part. Had Dooley been a coach and leader this would have never gotten to this point.
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I don't think Bray would win any meaningful game in a UT uniform. I was hopeful after his tear fest in the Music City Bowl that he would grow up and offer some leadership. I don't think it ever happened.

If Worley had Bray's receiving corps this year, we could easily be 6-1 as well....and I readily admit that Worley doesn't come close to Bray in regards to natural talent.
 
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Lexvol said:
I don't think Bray would win any meaningful game in a UT uniform. I was hopeful after his tear fest in the Music City Bowl that he would grow up and offer some leadership. I don't think it ever happened.

If Worley had Bray's receiving corps this year, we could easily be 6-1 as well....and I readily admit that Worley doesn't come close to Bray in regards to natural talent.
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I don't disagree with you...I can believe it. The only thing I see about Worley is footwork and comfortably in the pocket. Both seem to be improving weekly. Good coaching fixes those issues and of course experience. Had Worley been a starter for as long as AJ or Murry I think he would had been equally as good. I think he has been sat aside by all the previous coaches and not developed, this year is a developmental year and he is growing weekly. Should be so much better next year.
 
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Lexvol said:
I don't think Bray would win any meaningful game in a UT uniform. I was hopeful after his tear fest in the Music City Bowl that he would grow up and offer some leadership. I don't think it ever happened.

If Worley had Bray's receiving corps this year, we could easily be 6-1 as well....and I readily admit that Worley doesn't come close to Bray in regards to natural talent.
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There is no way Jones doesn't get Bray's attitude fixed.

Before this year, Palardy would've been called every name under the sun to drag him through the mud and make us feel better about ourselves.

Maturity, attitude, etc are all questionable when you have no leadership and no clear direction.
 
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Lexvol said:
Bray had no leadership from the top, nor did he seem interested in leading. He thought he was playing for Kiff, and ended up being stuck with Dooley. I would have been pissed off too.
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I was in California this past year several different areas no one even heard of him. Just saying how great of a qb was he in high school.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
I don't have to read up on Vick or Hernandez they are thugs too.They are in that Thug area that is classified as Gangsters.

There are thugs in every program and there are coaches that will tolerate their Thugdom... CBJ would not have tolerated Bray's crap. It is worthless to even think about him being here this year because he would have delayed everything by a year with the Money incident and the attitude.

I love players with attitude but when it was comes to controlling the results I don't respect them. Dooley and he were in a pissing contest constantly and Bray got the best of him. You don't think that T. Poole and other seniors were pissed off at him for no reason.

Bray is a talent but not a team player. Influencing the team not to give it their all is a problem. CBJ and he would never have done well together and the infection needed to be cut out of the system.

Bray was butt hurt but we coddled to him at first. He never compromised. He would have been on the Couch with Couch. I hate threads like this they are useless because they serve no purpose. T Bray may have visited and he will do fine in the NFL and that is where he belongs. Glad he made it.

Still doesn't change my opinion. Just glad we got energy back into program......CBJ is the man that will take this program back to prominence if given the time.

I don't think we make this kind of improvement if Bray is still here without Hunter or CP. Anybody that Tatoos their Back with their name on it is the first step of Thug Dom. J/K but I still laughing at him for doing so.

Seriously I don't think he would have cut it with CBJ so he was best to move on because of the $$ and the potential conflict. He got away with a lot with Dooley.
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Bray is not a thug. If having a perceived bad attitude and chucking a beer bottle is being a thug, I'm willing to bet half of VN were thugs at some point. Vick and Hernandez are thugs, Scarface and Capone were gangsters. Bray is a punk kid at best, though the back tat of his name would make him a douche. Lol
 
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I never did like Bray I'm glad he's gone. He was not a team player he was all about his self. I would take Worley over him any day of the week. Bray might have a better arm but Worley has heart and he's about the team not himself. Doesn't everybody remember the KY gm when him and Darick gave up with the rest of the team. Good riddance in my book to him and Darick. GO VOLS!
 
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BadJerry20 said:
Bray is not a thug. If having a perceived bad attitude and chucking a beer bottle is being a thug, I'm willing to bet half of VN were thugs at some point. Vick and Hernandez are thugs, Scarface and Capone were gangsters. Bray is a punk kid at best, though the back tat of his name would make him a douche. Lol
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A Douche...I take that...LOL

I will meet you Halfway and we can agree on Douche Bag or Punk...
 
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