It's time for a change

[WinnerCircle]

This is what matters.. recruiting 2-time Team USA player and ACC all-conference guard Jewel Spear to come back for one more year and officially practicing with former 5-star McD Talaysia Cooper, 4-star early enrollee Kaniya Boyd, former 4-star Kaiya Wynn, and possibly former 4-star Destinee Wells.

 

[dazzleme]

Hammon would be a home-run hire but we'd have to offer her /at least/ $2.5 million per to even begin to interest her, I'm sure. She's supposedly making $1 million a year in the WNBA. I can't imagine that any well-paid pro coach would want to deal with all the hassles involved in college basketball/athletics now--none of which pertain to pro basketball--and thus might only consider if you made them a sit-up-and-take-notice offer. Harper is supposedly making about $1 million annually. Mulkey's new contract reportedly will pay her $2.75 Million and go up to $3.7 million over the next several years.

Goestenkors reportedly is retiring from "on-court coaching" and is 60, so I don't think she'd be a viable candidate.

I agree with your comments regarding Hammon. Doesn't hurt for them to have a conversation to see what it would take to get her here. Who knows.

And regarding Gail, I hate to hear she's considering retiring. Kim M is 61, so that is prime. And he that shall go unnamed at the Death Star is 69, but he is imploding and has lost his touch.

 

[Majors]

Here's some inconvenient facts about some of the NegaVols favorite coach replacements...

Kim Mulkey just lost to a Mississippi State team we beat on their home court for their 3rd conference loss. They lost to Auburn on the road after we beat them as well. How good a coach is she if she can't win consistently with unlimited NIL and the best team money can buy?

Wes Moore's NC State team last year finished 8th in the ACC and lost in the NCAA first round to Princeton.

Jeff Walz lost his star Senior point guard to LSU....(and also lost to MTSU by 18 points last year)

Dawn Staley had a losing record against Holly Warlick until she signed A'ja Wilson.

In other words, there are no such thing as a 'guaranteed' winner.

Quit holding our coach to standards that most coaches can't reach anyway. Most of you all need to quit this 'replace the coach' BS. There's still a lot of basketball to play.

just win and it takes care of it. You’re a business man…you going to let your business slowly die knowing the issues or keep doing the same thing over and over?

And those negavols you like to chirp about are on par with the ones defending Kellie. Who’s the bigger idiot…shooting for the stars or face planting with each loss. Be a realist, life is easier that way.

 

[glv98]

Oh the irony. At least we know women’s basketball isn’t involved. No nil to cheat on.

Are their really rules you can violate?

 

[Coach Jumper]

No she's not. Look at who visits and gets offers. She quit recruiting mid level players after she got a class full of them a few years ago. You know, the ones we gripe about as slow and unathletic all the time. Went to elite only recruiting out of hs and we see the result, or lack of. That's the current dilemia. Take what you can get to at least fill roster spots, hold out for the elusive elite, or depend on the portal and pray like hell another Rickea wanders in. Puny NIL narrows those choices.

Consistency is precisely what we lack (at least consistency on the good stuff) and precisely what we need. But I'm not as optimistic that this team is capable of it anymore, nor that the staff is capable of getting it out of them. We just can't string several good games together. Which is scary since our season depends on doing exactly that.

Look who's getting the starts and the minutes

 

[turbovol]

I agree with your comments regarding Hammon. Doesn't hurt for them to have a conversation to see what it would take to get her here. Who knows.

And regarding Gail, I hate to hear she's considering retiring. Kim M is 61, so that is prime. And he that shall go unnamed at the Death Star is 69, but he is imploding and has lost his touch.

Every coach loses his or her touch after 30 years. It most definitely happened with Summitt, and I'm not talking about her illness. It's the law of diminishing returns.

 

[chuckiepoo]

I agree with your comments regarding Hammon. Doesn't hurt for them to have a conversation to see what it would take to get her here. Who knows.

And regarding Gail, I hate to hear she's considering retiring. Kim M is 61, so that is prime. And he that shall go unnamed at the Death Star is 69, but he is imploding and has lost his touch.

Welcome

 

[Coach Jumper]

Every coach loses his or her touch after 30 years. It most definitely happened with Summitt, and I'm not talking about her illness. It's the law of diminishing returns.

Tell Rick Barnes (37 years) ,,,he's late.

 

[turbovol]

Oh the irony. At least we know women’s basketball isn’t involved. No nil to cheat on.

Are their really rules you can violate?

It's related to the abject nonsense and corruption that is NIL as used to recruit prospects, which in practice has amounted to which schools will offer the biggest bribe to get a player signed. And THIS is what people think college athletics should be about? It's turning college sports into a completely sleazy affair. NIL should be completely banned from recruiting. The collectives should be disbanded. Schools should recruit as they have for decades--you pick a school because you want to go there--like the program, coach, academics, environment, whatever, not because some school offered you a lot of money.

Either keep the student-athletes as students or break off the athletic departments entirely from the university, turn them into private clubs--and at least that way you spare universities all this seediness. Otherwise, once a kid is on campus an playing, if s/he becomes a good player and some private business wants to use them for promotional purposes, then an NIL deal can be arranged--but only after they are in school, and maybe even in school for a year. This is college. If you, a prospect, are simply a money-grubber--then find a way to turn pro and stay away from college.

 

[chuckiepoo]

It's related to the abject nonsense and corruption that is NIL as used to recruit prospects, which in practice has amounted to which schools will offer the biggest bribe to get a player signed. And THIS is what people think college athletics should be about? It's turning college sports into a completely sleazy affair. NIL should be completely banned from recruiting. The collectives should be disbanded. Schools should recruit as they have for decades--you pick a school because you want to go there--like the program, coach, academics, environment, whatever, not because some school offered you a lot of money.

Either keep the student-athletes as students or break off the athletic departments entirely from the university, turn them into private clubs--and at least that way you spare universities all this seediness. Otherwise, once a kid is on campus an playing, if s/he becomes a good player and some private business wants to use them for promotional purposes, then an NIL deal can be arranged--but only after they are in school, and maybe even in school for a year. This is college. If you, a prospect, are simply a money-grubber--then find a way to turn pro and stay away from college.

 

[FormerLadyVolFan]

Hmmm... I would bet LSU women's basketball should be on the NCAA's NIL radar...

Oh the irony. At least we know women’s basketball isn’t involved. No nil to cheat on.

Are their really rules you can violate?

 

[Voltopia]

Every coach loses his or her touch after 30 years. It most definitely happened with Summitt, and I'm not talking about her illness. It's the law of diminishing returns.

lol, if winning back to back NCAA titles and signing a bunch of top 5 NCAA recruiting classes is "diminishing returns," then sign me up. I'll take diminishing returns all day. I yearn for these "diminishing returns."

 

[Vol4Real]

Dawn Staley is no more coming here than Pat Summit was going to South Carolina or anywhere else at her peak. Why would Dawn leave her kingdom?

But these threads are not about reality, much less logic.

This is the TRUTH.

 

[Deebowbear]

...and you know this how? Basketball is a tournament sport. Remember Cuonzo Martin's last UT men's team wound up as a 'First Four' tournament seed (#65-#68) and they were one play away from beating Michigan to earn an Elite Eight berth.

LVS will have 4 to 6 mores losses before end of season

 

[Deebowbear]

Here's some inconvenient facts about some of the NegaVols favorite coach replacements...

Kim Mulkey just lost to a Mississippi State team we beat on their home court for their 3rd conference loss. They lost to Auburn on the road after we beat them as well. How good a coach is she if she can't win consistently with unlimited NIL and the best team money can buy?

Wes Moore's NC State team last year finished 8th in the ACC and lost in the NCAA first round to Princeton.

Jeff Walz lost his star Senior point guard to LSU....(and also lost to MTSU by 18 points last year)

Dawn Staley had a losing record against Holly Warlick until she signed A'ja Wilson.

In other words, there are no such thing as a 'guaranteed' winner.

Quit holding our coach to standards that most coaches can't reach anyway. Most of you all need to quit this 'replace the coach' BS. There's still a lot of basketball to play.

Must not watch the same team I watch

 

[chuckiepoo]

LVS will have 4 to 6 mores losses before end of season

 

[Deebowbear]

Surely you can see the difference between Mulkey, Staley, and Walz versus what we have with Harper? All three of those coaches have gone to multiple final fours and have won national championships. Mulkey just won it all last season and despite their conference struggles, there is little reason to doubt based on her track record that her team will be clicking come post season play. Kind of silly to bring their names into the discussion about a coach who is on the verge of missing the tournament. If you ask yourself if Harper has any hope of getting us to the level that Mulkey, Staley, and Walz have their programs at, the answer if you’re honest with yourself is ‘no’ or ‘highly unlikely’.

I get if you’re a Harper supporter. That’s fine. But the ‘fire the coach’ rhetoric isn’t BS at this point. The program is headed in a very bad direction. Forget the failure of this season. Look ahead to next season and beyond and ask yourself what the future holds for this program under Harper. She’s not given a lot of reason to believe that she can assemble a team that could bounce back from this season.

This

 

[Deebowbear]

K Harper continues to recruit a slow front court players. They hold space but their agility, quickness and speed lack what is needed in today's world. Physical shape is another question and Harper does not get it. She coaches the grind it out vs being creative.

Ole Miss worn them out by 3rd quarter was dragging

 

[Deebowbear]

The biggest issue has been the non-conference scheduling. It was a setback for the developmental of this roster.

SEC play for the LVs has been above average.

The rotations in-game though are still hit or miss.

Nobody should get fired or benched following a loss by 5pts on the road in the SEC to a team you are tied with for 2nd place in the conference.

However, winning EVERY game matters and that was an extremely winnable game in Oxford.

The starting lineup did get off to a better start in this game against OM offensively but gave up too many easy baskets due to a lack of focus or effort but it wasn’t skill.
These were individual defensive issues. Against Vandy at home the defense was completely different and locked in.

At this point talking about personnel flaws in the roster is foolish, on Sunday Jewel Spear was the best player on the court followed by a couple of players from Ole Miss.

On any given night, to beat above average competition your top players have to perform and role players have to be productive. Tennessee’s two top players scored 45 pts with Spear accounting for 30 pts.
This was Spear moment. And I think after going 11/17, she should’ve taken the final shot(s) after cutting the lead down to 72-74 and this could’ve easily been a win for the LVs.
Rickea has had her moments.
Get both playing elite basketball at the same time and this team can win a lot of basketball games.

OAN: Man after this game, I don’t think some of these NVs realize how good Jewel Spear is.
Tennessee is absolutely dominating the portal and we haven’t even seen Talaysia Cooper officially.

This off-season if Jewel Spear returns they will have a key player to build around and find success once again from the portal. I want CKH and her assistants to go after players that fit the mold of Alexus Dye entering their junior or soph. season. Dye was phenomenal in just one season in the LVs system. The most athletic player in the previous 4 seasons besides Jordan Horston and Rennia Davis.

The issue is the coach plain and simple

 

[Majors]

Tell Rick Barnes (37 years) ,,,he's late.

Doing pretty well, won a few championships here and landed a portal game changer in Knecht.

 

[Majors]

The issue is the coach plain and simple

It’s really not complicated or in need of a spin.

 

[Deebowbear]

Hammon would be a home-run hire but we'd have to offer her /at least/ $2.5 million per to even begin to interest her, I'm sure. She's supposedly making $1 million a year in the WNBA. I can't imagine that any well-paid pro coach would want to deal with all the hassles involved in college basketball/athletics now--none of which pertain to pro basketball--and thus might only consider if you made them a sit-up-and-take-notice offer. Harper is supposedly making about $1 million annually. Mulkey's new contract reportedly will pay her $2.75 Million and go up to $3.7 million over the next several years.

Goestenkors reportedly is retiring from "on-court coaching" and is 60, so I don't think she'd be a viable candidate.

I would offer Hammon an offer she couldn’t refuse and if not Gail was a great coach till the pressure got to her at Texas so don’t if she would come, always liked her. If you could get her with a up and comer like the Grand Canyon coach To help her or someone like in Gail’s position

 

[chuckiepoo]

The biggest issue has been the non-conference scheduling. It was a setback for the developmental of this roster.

SEC play for the LVs has been above average.

The rotations in-game though are still hit or miss.

Nobody should get fired or benched following a loss by 5pts on the road in the SEC to a team you are tied with for 2nd place in the conference.

However, winning EVERY game matters and that was an extremely winnable game in Oxford.

The starting lineup did get off to a better start in this game against OM offensively but gave up too many easy baskets due to a lack of focus or effort but it wasn’t skill.
These were individual defensive issues. Against Vandy at home the defense was completely different and locked in.

At this point talking about personnel flaws in the roster is foolish, on Sunday Jewel Spear was the best player on the court followed by a couple of players from Ole Miss.

On any given night, to beat above average competition your top players have to perform and role players have to be productive. Tennessee’s two top players scored 45 pts with Spear accounting for 30 pts.
This was Spear moment. And I think after going 11/17, she should’ve taken the final shot(s) after cutting the lead down to 72-74 and this could’ve easily been a win for the LVs.
Rickea has had her moments.
Get both playing elite basketball at the same time and this team can win a lot of basketball games.

OAN: Man after this game, I don’t think some of these NVs realize how good Jewel Spear is.
Tennessee is absolutely dominating the portal and we haven’t even seen Talaysia Cooper officially.

This off-season if Jewel Spear returns they will have a key player to build around and find success once again from the portal. I want CKH and her assistants to go after players that fit the mold of Alexus Dye entering their junior or soph. season. Dye was phenomenal in just one season in the LVs system. The most athletic player in the previous 4 seasons besides Jordan Horston and Rennia Davis.

Nice and centered. Thoughtful even. More like this, WC.

 

[Majors]

Here's some inconvenient facts about some of the NegaVols favorite coach replacements...

Kim Mulkey just lost to a Mississippi State team we beat on their home court for their 3rd conference loss. They lost to Auburn on the road after we beat them as well. How good a coach is she if she can't win consistently with unlimited NIL and the best team money can buy?

Wes Moore's NC State team last year finished 8th in the ACC and lost in the NCAA first round to Princeton.

Jeff Walz lost his star Senior point guard to LSU....(and also lost to MTSU by 18 points last year)

Dawn Staley had a losing record against Holly Warlick until she signed A'ja Wilson.

In other words, there are no such thing as a 'guaranteed' winner.

Quit holding our coach to standards that most coaches can't reach anyway. Most of you all need to quit this 'replace the coach' BS. There's still a lot of basketball to play.

Still no word about Holly's future. Meanwhile, Walz has still not been locked up by Louisville. Anybody think Fulmer is working behind the scenes to get him?

I would like to think so, but I have my doubts...

Ol NegaVol Earl wanting Walz. Funny, didn’t see you mention Kellie.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

Hmmm... I would bet LSU women's basketball should be on the NCAA's NIL radar...

There should probably be 100 schools on her radar if they are going to enforce ghost rules….