It's time for a change

Nice and centered. Thoughtful even. More like this, WC. 😉

Who are you, Spears's mother? Give it a rest about how super-duper All American and ELITE every guard we have is. You're a broken record. They're not. If they were, we wouldn't be struggling to just make the NCAA tourney. Yea, Spears had
an outstanding game against Ole Miss--one of the few shes had all season. She's averaging 13 a game. Nice player--not an All American.

Wells is an average player. Before her injury she was shooting 13 percent from the three line.

I think that all the other colleges might get together next season is collectively decide to anoint us national champs--no season required, no game needed--because our guards are so transparently, so amazingly, so stupendously, so tremendously ELITE! Have you heard?
 
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Who are you, Spears's mother? Give it a rest about how super-duper All American and ELITE every guard we have is. You're a broken record. They're not. If they were, we wouldn't be struggling to just make the NCAA tourney. Yea, Spears had
an outstanding game against Ole Miss--one of the few shes had all season. She's averaging 13 a game. Nice player--not an All American.

Wells is an average player. Before her injury she was shooting 13 percent from the three line.

I think that all the other colleges might get together next season is collectively decide to anoint us national champs--no season required, no game needed--because our guards are so transparently, so amazingly, so stupendously, so tremendously ELITE! Have you heard?
I know you drop in the LVBB forum occasionally. I’m not the personal advocate for Spears. Never have been. And you know that. The issue that triggered you was regarding the NIL issue. A moment of self reflection would serve you well…
 
It's related to the abject nonsense and corruption that is NIL as used to recruit prospects, which in practice has amounted to which schools will offer the biggest bribe to get a player signed. And THIS is what people think college athletics should be about? It's turning college sports into a completely sleazy affair. NIL should be completely banned from recruiting. The collectives should be disbanded. Schools should recruit as they have for decades--you pick a school because you want to go there--like the program, coach, academics, environment, whatever, not because some school offered you a lot of money.

Either keep the student-athletes as students or break off the athletic departments entirely from the university, turn them into private clubs--and at least that way you spare universities all this seediness. Otherwise, once a kid is on campus an playing, if s/he becomes a good player and some private business wants to use them for promotional purposes, then an NIL deal can be arranged--but only after they are in school, and maybe even in school for a year. This is college. If you, a prospect, are simply a money-grubber--then find a way to turn pro and stay away from college.
NIL has fundamentally changed collegiate sports. Those who can use it the quickest and best will flourish, those who buck it will fall by the wayside. I read an article where good ol' Geno is lamenting NIL as it gives players leverage that coaches used to have over them. In other words he's not doing that well with it. I hope he keeps shaking his fist at it as the game passes him by.
 
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It’s really not complicated or in need of a spin.

If Kellie Harper was an alum of another school, many of those defending her now wouldn’t be doing so (whether they realize it or not). Lady Vol fanbase is too loyal to those connected to Pat. It’s understandable, but it’s not necessarily conducive to getting the program back to a championship level.
 
If Kellie Harper was an alum of another school, many of those defending her now wouldn’t be doing so (whether they realize it or not). Lady Vol fanbase is too loyal to those connected to Pat. It’s understandable, but it’s not necessarily conducive to getting the program back to a championship level.
Understandable…we are just a few years removed from firing a local Olympian (80 roster - Thanks Russia) with her jersey in the rafters. Letting Kellie go won’t be that hard.
 
Nothing Majors posts is true. He’s a desperate NV.
Posted the other day you’re a hypocrite. Didn’t see you try to defend that you weren’t. Nothing desperate about being a realist. How’s your rankings?
 
No she's not. Look at who visits and gets offers. She quit recruiting mid level players after she got a class full of them a few years ago. You know, the ones we gripe about as slow and unathletic all the time. Went to elite only recruiting out of hs and we see the result, or lack of. That's the current dilemia. Take what you can get to at least fill roster spots, hold out for the elusive elite, or depend on the portal and pray like hell another Rickea wanders in. Puny NIL narrows those choices.

Consistency is precisely what we lack (at least consistency on the good stuff) and precisely what we need. But I'm not as optimistic that this team is capable of it anymore, nor that the staff is capable of getting it out of them. We just can't string several good games together. Which is scary since our season depends on doing exactly that.

Allow me to place my broken record on the turntable. Ah, sweet, sweet repetition.

The portal is recruiting. Rickea, Jewell, Hollingshead, and Cooper are definitely not Missouri Valley Conference caliber players. So, an early claim that is the middling level at which Kellie is recruiting does not hold up that well.

I don't think Boyd or Brooks, her most recent HS recruits, fit the MVC bill either.

Where Kellie has been falling short is at the class level--that is bringing in three to four quality recruits each year.

Recruiting a relative business. Are you gaining or losing on your peers when you bring in a class?

Her fist two years were losing ground. Keeping Jordan Horston was a huge plus but it was not supported by an influx of high caliber talent.

The Striplin, Puckett, Darby class would have been just fine if she been able land one to two elite players to round it out and hence it would have become the {star player names} class.

As the feature recruits, however, Strip, Puckett, Darby are losing ground to peer schools who had much stronger classes.

That is the hole that Kellie is digging out of.

She struck gold with the Jackson and Hollingshead (though Jillian is struggling). This years group of Spear and Wells looked to be great solutions but Wells is down. The book is still out on Strickland.

But it is hard to replace a Jordan Horston so the relative gain versus loss may not as favorable as we all hoped.

Next, year we should have Cooper and Boyd, plus Wells and Strickland. Kellie will need to find a good post in the portal and if she does, that class could look pretty good. But with RJ leaving, I am not sure that the LVs are going to gain ground on their SEC rivals and beyond.
 
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This is not true. Do not speak about things you know nothing about. Makes you look bad to people who actually do know.
The only 'courting call' of an existing top 25 coach that I can ever remember being disclosed was Jeff Walz's fraudulent claim that he was a candidate for the UT job when Holly was fired. That was put in the public domain by him and his agent to force Louisville's troubled AD to give him a raise and extension.

BTW, Jeff Walz lost to MTSU by 18 points last December, too...
We were told Earl is in the know.
 
The problem we have here is we have to much influence on hires apparently. This was the case when KJH was hired and someone on here alluded that a man will never be hired because of people behind the scenes.

If a coaching change is made, we need to hire the best candidate we can, regardless if its a woman or a man. Anything else is just stupid. Yes so if you think that we only need to hire a man or a woman specifically, you are indeed stupid.
 
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Allow me to place my broken record on the turntable. Ah, sweet, sweet repetition.

The portal is recruiting. Rickea, Jewell, Hollingshead, and Cooper are definitely not Missouri Valley Conference caliber players. So, an early claim that is the middling level at which Kellie is recruiting does not hold up that well.

I don't think Boyd or Brooks, her most recent HS recruits, fit the MVC bill either.

Where Kellie has been falling short is at the class level--that is bringing in three to four quality recruits each year.

Recruiting a relative business. Are you gaining or losing on your peers when you bring in a class?

Her fist two years were losing ground. Keeping Jordan Horston was a huge plus but it was not supported by an influx of high caliber talent.

The Striplin, Puckett, Darby class would have been just fine if she been able land one to two elite players to round it out and hence it would have become the {star player names} class.

As the feature recruits, however, Strip, Puckett, Darby are losing ground to peer schools who had much stronger classes.

That is the hole that Kellie is digging out of.

She struck gold with the Jackson and Hollingshead (though Jillian is struggling). This years group of Spear and Wells looked to be great solutions but Wells is down. The book is still out on Strickland.

But it is hard to replace a Jordan Horston so the relative gain versus loss may not as favorable as we all hoped.

Next, year we should have Cooper and Boyd, plus Wells and Strickland. Kellie will need to find a good post in the portal and if she does, that class could look pretty good. But with RJ leaving, I am not sure that the LVs are going to gain ground on their SEC rivals and beyond.
Not sure where you actually stand on current recruiting here, but I think your last line sums it up. The LVs are not gaining ground, they're clearly losing it. Part of that is bc WBB is still a sport where the rich get richer fast and So Car is moving the ground so far ahead it's hard to gain any. Still, our overall recruiting and roster are not keeping up to championship contending level.

I appreciate portal recruiting, hate to think where we'd be without it. Maybe it's old man me, but seems like it's awfully dangerous to have portal be a must have every year. I'd still like to see a balance with hs recruiting and a balanced roster that isn't 9 guards who are all juniors. Whole classes that are empty scare me. But maybe that's all old fashioned.

Not sure where all the MVC stuff comes in; I said many we've recruited are middlin or tweeners as far as their skills. We're plugging and playing to shore up weaknesses far too much. The real issue IMO is that we're not landing truly elite recruits, esp out of high school. The kind that LSU and So Carolina have lots of. We have a couple fm the portal and one on the way in Brooks, but that's just not enough to keep up.
 
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Fire Rick Barnes! The men laid exactly the kind of egg tonight that gets the Fire Kellie crowd going. Flat, lifeless, couldn't hit a layup to save their lives, couldn't hit free throws. DK got going late but overall it was the kind of game you hoped the team was far beyond. Just like the Texas A&M game for LVs.

Of course the difference is that Rick has lots of signature wins that KJH doesn't have. Helps pad the blow when the team shows up looking like it only found out about the game a few minutes ago.
 
I know exactly what he was doing...I'm not the only one that has posted this, Brian Rice has said that he will never be coach here due to the way he handled that situation. Sorry it doesn't fit your agenda...

Earl doesn't know either. Earl is just showing how much he really knows by posting that horse crap.
 
Gee, that's pretty desperate, even for you, digging up 6 year old post, just like someone on Volquest does...hmmm...

I found out pretty soon after that what was going on with Walz. That was also before Kellie took her team to the Sweet 16.

Ol NegaVol Earl wanting Walz. Funny, didn’t see you mention Kellie.
 
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I know exactly what he was doing...I'm not the only one that has posted this, Brian Rice has said that he will never be coach here due to the way he handled that situation. Sorry it doesn't fit your agenda...
I think the issues w Walz go back to his Brenda Freese days and the infamous Candace Parker tampering allegations. That's a long time ago, but pretty sure that's where it started.
 

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