It's Vols @ OSU

#76
#76
That's NOT what he said. He said no teams playing couldn't effect others not playing. Meaning Miami couldn't jump Ala, not could we jump Ohio St without playing. But, Clemson winning would knock Ala out, Penn St and GA losing could drop them down. Especially if they get blown out. That's all he said
What if UNLV beats Boise St?
 
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#78
#78
Texas isn’t falling behind Tennessee. Even if they lose 100-0.
They could.

With a loss of 0 to 100, they probably would.

In fact, one can make the argument that it would be easier for the Committee to move Texas below the Vols than UGa. Since UGa beat us head-to-head. But Texas never did.

Whatever. We really don't care which team wins the SEC; we just want them to maul the ever-loving crap out of the loser.

In the B10, we do care. We want Penn State to go down hard.

Go Vols!
 
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They could.

With a loss of 0 to 100, they probably would.

In fact, one can make the argument that it would be easier for the Committee to move Texas below the Vols than UGa. Since UGa beat us head-to-head. But Texas never did.

Whatever. We really don't care which team wins the SEC; we just want them to maul the ever-loving crap out of the loser.

In the B10, we do care. We want Penn State to go down hard.

Go Vols!
Penn State getting destroyed is our only chance of moving up. So Go Ducks
 
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#84
The good news is that we have a cold front now. In 2.5 weeks the weather could be back in the 60’s and our guys will be used to the 40’s. That should help even the odds in Columbus or Happy Valley.
 
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#85
#85
Exactly. We control our own destiny.

The committee can’t block James Pearce. They can’t tackle Dylan Sampson. They can’t make a catch against Jermod McCoy.

We just have to impose our will and dominate every facet of the game. Celebrate. Then do it again.
Preach my brother.... It doesn't matter whom or where we play. If OSU is in our way, then so be it. We earned the opportunity to compete for a title. Far as im concerned, they're just the next team who gets a chance to see if their QB can finish the game against our Defense
 
#86
#86
The good news is that we have a cold front now. In 2.5 weeks the weather could be back in the 60’s and our guys will be used to the 40’s. That should help even the odds in Columbus or Happy Valley.
TBH, bad weather would favor us. We're a run first offense and we can stop the run
 
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TBH, bad weather would favor us. We're a run first offense and we can stop the run
I thought about that, but the secret to our run is the spread receivers. It pulls the safeties away from the box. If we don’t have the deep threat, they load the box like Oklahoma and then our advantage is severely diminished.
 
#88
#88
Penn State getting destroyed is our only chance of moving up. So Go Ducks
This is the best chance we have of the Vols hosting. I still don't think it happens, I think it depends on how you took what guy said last night to Reece Davis. He put a very plainly worded question to Warde and he two stepped all around that with his answer. I think the playoff committee give us one narrative one week and it changes week to week. If they didn't they wouldn't have a job. JMO
 
#90
#90
Lose to Arkansas is worse than loss to Michigan. Loss to Oregon on the road, by 1 point is better than our loss to Georgia. That’s what they based their opinion on.
We’ve always been conditioned to believe early season losses do not mean as much as end of season losses. Has this now changed?
 
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I have fully accepted that Ohio State will likely be our opponent, but I was just told by a member of the coaching staff that they all think it will be Penn State. The staff thinks that, apparently. I'm not sure why, but that's just what I was told.
 
#93
#93
I have fully accepted that Ohio State will likely be our opponent, but I was just told by a member of the coaching staff that they all think it will be Penn State. The staff thinks that, apparently. I'm not sure why, but that's just what I was told.
They probably think that Oregon beats PSU comfortably and they drop PSU in the rankings behind Ohio State.
 
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#94
I thought about that, but the secret to our run is the spread receivers. It pulls the safeties away from the box. If we don’t have the deep threat, they load the box like Oklahoma and then our advantage is severely diminished.
I think the OU game is the exact style we would be looking for in a bad weather game. We ran for 151 on 52 attempts vs a loaded box. It wasn't Earth shattering numbers but it helped us control time of possession by over 10 minutes. Run games and Defense travel. Those 2 aspects of football will keep you in any game no matter where it's played. When u factor in what Michigan just did there, it's proof that it works against OSU. Michigan can't throw the ball across the street, OSU knew that and still couldn't stop them. We play a similar brand of football as Michigan except with a better QB.
 
#95
#95
Lose to Arkansas is worse than loss to Michigan. Loss to Oregon on the road, by 1 point is better than our loss to Georgia. That’s what they based their opinion on.
Arkansas would beat Michigan and Georgia would beat Oregon.
 
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#96
I feel it’s more likely based on wins over IU and Penn state with bama being our only win over a playoff team…
Indiana should have dropped like a rock when Ohio State beat them now they have a problem if Clemson beats SMU they have to decide between SMU or Bama. They messed this year up bad.
 
#97
#97
Lose to Arkansas is worse than loss to Michigan. Loss to Oregon on the road, by 1 point is better than our loss to Georgia. That’s what they based their opinion on.
What about a loss to Vandy and Oklahoma?
 
Okay so here's what the man actually said, in green:

Any team that is not playing right now (i.e., this weekend in a championship game), we don't have a data point to rearrange where we have those teams ranked.

And so, that is set in terms of how we see them going into the final week, of championship week.

There's no, there's nothing that's going to change for us to evaluate them any differently than we have now.

Those teams who are not playing [this weekend] can not be adjusted in terms of where they are compared to other teams that are not playing.

But the championship teams we will evaluate that data point to determine if there needs to be any movement
based on how the performance of game goes.


I bolded a few key parts.

What that means is, there are now two elements to the rankings and slatings. The framework of teams that are locked compared to each other, and the fluid teams who can still rise and fall because they're playing this weekend.

The framework teams are like this:

Notre Dame
Ohio State
Tennessee
Indiana
Alabama
Miami

The position of all those teams can shift up or down the final rankings, but they will never leapfrog each other. Theyr'e fixed, relative to each other.

The fluid part involves these teams:

Oregon
Texas
Penn State
Georgia
SMU
Boise State
Arizona St
Iowa St
Clemson
UNLV

One example of what this means: Oregon, Texas, and Penn State are all currently above the top of the framework of non-playing teams. All ranked above Notre Dame, in other words. But at least one and maybe two of those teams will lose. The losers can drop below Notre Dame and perhaps other "fixed" teams and fit in somewhere in the middle of the framework. Depends on how they do.

So Tennessee can never get above Ohio State. Nor can we ever get behind Indiana. But we can get ahead of, say, Georgia. Or Penn State. Or even Texas and Oregon, though those outcomes are hugely unlikely.

In short, we are not yet locked into playing any specific team. Nor are we locked into an away game in the first round. We'll just have to wait to see how things go Saturday for the teams above us.

We definitely want Texas and Oregon to win in a big way in hopes Penn St and/or UGa fall under us, and we want SMU and Boise St to either lose or win a close game so there's no chance of them popping up above us.

Those are the moving pieces.

Go Vols!
Very good. At no time has the committee showed a bracket that said Tennessee is going to Ohio State. That’s all media supposition based on the rankings AND WHAT THEY THINK OR WANT TO HAPPEN.
 
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