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[BigBadVol]

CCM. I have been critical of CCM and the style of play exhibited by this team but I have changed my mind. Hearing the Iowa coach speak about the class that CCM and this team showed after the game convinced me CCM is the right man for the job. I say let's give him some time to grow as a coach and the best players in the country will want to play for him. He constantly talks about representing TN is a positive light. No discipline problems since he has been here. The man is a class act with incredible character. He will recruit players with character. It's only a matter of time before he will be extremely successful. You can't do things the right way and not get good results. He has my support and he now deserves an extension. JMO!:rock:

 

[Crazy Ivan]

CCM. I have been critical of CCM and the style of play exhibited by this team but I have changed my mind. Hearing the Iowa coach speak about the class that CCM and this team showed after the game convinced me CCM is the right man for the job. I say let's give him some time to grow as a coach and the best players in the country will want to play for him. He constantly talks about representing TN is a positive light. No discipline problems since he has been here. The man is a class act with incredible character. He will recruit players with character. It's only a matter of time before he will be extremely successful. You can't do things the right way and not get good results. He has my support and he now deserves an extension. JMO!:rock:

Well said. But your post won't be well received.

 

[byobbio]

Couldn't have said it better. Nobody else on this site, including me, had the balls to say it. Nice post.

(BTW, I was your 1,000th LIKE. What'd I win?)

 

[UTBasketball2]

Winning cures everything.

 

[supersmo18]

CCM. I have been critical of CCM and the style of play exhibited by this team but I have changed my mind. Hearing the Iowa coach speak about the class that CCM and this team showed after the game convinced me CCM is the right man for the job. I say let's give him some time to grow as a coach and the best players in the country will want to play for him. He constantly talks about representing TN is a positive light. No discipline problems since he has been here. The man is a class act with incredible character. He will recruit players with character. It's only a matter of time before he will be extremely successful. You can't do things the right way and not get good results. He has my support and he now deserves an extension. JMO!:rock:

I'm not ready to go that far yet, because last night I felt this team pulled themselves together at the end when it mattered, but still was a lackluster (although sufficient) coaching job by CCM. JMO.

I say let's give him some time to grow as a coach and the best players in the country will want to play for him.

This is his third year... how many more do you want him to go to "give him time to grow as a coach?" It's eat or be eaten at this level, and for me personally, I still feel like he's got to be the aggressor much, MUCH more frequently.

All that said, great win last night. Time to study up for UMass. eace2:

 

[OrangeInKy]

I am with OP. I was totally behind Cuonzo until late November. I have always liked him but have felt he wasn't the guy. I was reminded by hearing Mcaffrey that character building is big in coaching. Also, he had his guys scratching and clawing with nothing was going right. He has shown that he can coach and he can rally a team whose backs are against the wall. I think the other stuff can be learned along the way. I think there is something to be said for class and character. I like not having a snake oil salesman as a coach, having a guy who honors his family before career, and does things the right way. (those were not references to CBP but to many coaches today who win at all costs and embarrass programs along the way). I am with Cuonzo, regardless of what happens tomorrow. Flame away.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

Totally agree. Coach Martin is a man with integrity, a quiet intensity, and is going to be a major force in CFB when he gets a few more years experience. I hope it's here at Tennessee, but I think all the "I want it now" cry babies may get their way, run him off, and forever keep UT bb in a 3 yr & gone coaching cycle. They complain about mediocrity and are the primary cause.

 

[goooooovols]

Well said. But your post won't be well received.

I actually think the team is very well coached we really lack a shooter and true point guard put those two things on the court and we get some of those bad loses.

Like it or not CCM just solidified his job for another year last night. Might as well come to reality with that.

 

[butchna]

Couldn't have said it better. Nobody else on this site, including me, had the balls to say it. Nice post.

(BTW, I was your 1,000th LIKE. What'd I win?)

He'll write a nice post detailing how he was wrong...about you :dance:

 

[zidanefan]

...He constantly talks about representing TN is a positive light. No discipline problems since he has been here...

Now you've done it...

 

[whobethis16]

I'm not ready to go that far yet, because last night I felt this team pulled themselves together at the end when it mattered, but still was a lackluster (although sufficient) coaching job by CCM. JMO.



This is his third year... how many more do you want him to go to "give him time to grow as a coach?" It's eat or be eaten at this level, and for me personally, I still feel like he's got to be the aggressor much, MUCH more frequently.

All that said, great win last night. Time to study up for UMass. eace2:

Lackluster? The players came out trying to play the Pearl way (the way so many "experts" on here think is best) and nearly got run out of the gym. With about 5 mins left in the 1st half, they started playing how Martin has been preaching his whole time here and lo and behold, a victory. A good victory in the NCAA tournament. Maybe, just maybe, it's the players not always doing what is asked and expected of them.

 

[walkenvol]

Great to be back into the NCAA tourney and especially get a win!

Don't allow the europhia to cloud your thinking. No one has ever questioned CCM's integrity, just his recuiting along with X's and O's game time coaching. CCM still has alot of growing required to become a top notch coach.

If Hart is thinking extension, then I sure hope there is discussion of bringing in a top offensive assistant coach tied to it.

BTW - 2 guys have been dismissed for conduct reasons during CCM's tenure. Not a bad percentage, but more than 0 dicipline problems.

 

[OrangeInKy]

Winning cures everything.

he has won a lot lately, but it hasn't prompted this kind of support for him. Winning matters of course, but I think some fans like myself were reminded of other parts of coaching. I still think he has areas to grow, but I like the foundation. People say he shouldn't be learning and growing because it's his third year. That's nonsense. You should be learning and growing when you're 80. Hopefully he can learn how to not always have his back against the wall and better utilize players and opportunities., but I see no reason to make a change at this point regardless of what happens tomorrow..

 

[YorkVol]

I was impressed with how the players treated the Iowa coach after the win as well. I was also impressed they never gave up and knew if they kept it close they could pull it out in the end. They looked nervous at the beginning, so hopefully those jitters will be gone for Friday's game.

 

[VOLywood]

CCM. I have been critical of CCM and the style of play exhibited by this team but I have changed my mind. Hearing the Iowa coach speak about the class that CCM and this team showed after the game convinced me CCM is the right man for the job. I say let's give him some time to grow as a coach and the best players in the country will want to play for him. He constantly talks about representing TN is a positive light. No discipline problems since he has been here. The man is a class act with incredible character. He will recruit players with character. It's only a matter of time before he will be extremely successful. You can't do things the right way and not get good results. He has my support and he now deserves an extension. JMO!:rock:

This. CCM has all the ability to be an elite coach some day. He's still learning his craft, we just hired him one coaching stop before he was ready for this kind of program. Now after almost 3 years of on-the-job learning, he's showing the signs of being ready. We'd be dumb to let him go at this point.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Always hot or cold here.

 

[drewtigeralum]

Great to be back into the NCAA tourney and especially get a win!

Don't allow the europhia to cloud your thinking. No one has ever questioned CCM's integrity, just his recuiting along with X's and O's game time coaching. CCM still has alot of growing required to become a top notch coach.

If Hart is thinking extension, then I sure hope there is discussion of bringing in a top offensive assistant coach tied to it.

BTW - 2 guys have been dismissed for conduct reasons during CCM's tenure. Not a bad percentage, but more than 0 dicipline problems.

18-21 year olds are always going to do stupid stuff. It's really just a question of how the coach handles the situation. Short of a felony or poor play, what did it take to get dismissed by the last coach?

On to recruiting...Maybe you should give the players a chance to play before you write them off as bad recruits. Stokes and Richardson are both Martin guys and they both looked great last night. Thompson looked great and should have had 3-4 assists if not for players being fouled at the rim. Most importantly he had 0 turnovers. Moore had 4 pts and 3 assists in 12 minutes..not bad at all. Then you have to factor in that his most heralded recruit is in street clothes. Martin came to U.T. with a reputation as a good recruiter and a good talent evaluator. He is finding guys that can / will play in his system. I think he would rather have guys that fit than guys who have more stars. Purdue plays the same system and they went with a strategy of signing the "best" player available in terms of stars, and they have ridden that strategy to the bottom of the Big 10. Martin knows what he's doing.

 

[supersmo18]

Lackluster? The players came out trying to play the Pearl way (the way so many "experts" on here think is best) and nearly got run out of the gym. With about 5 mins left in the 1st half, they started playing how Martin has been preaching his whole time here and lo and behold, a victory. A good victory in the NCAA tournament. Maybe, just maybe, it's the players not always doing what is asked and expected of them.

Ok, I knew someone would think I pissed in their cheerios with my post. Anyway, the "Pearl Way" would have been much faster and full press and getting back on transition defense, which we didn't do and is why we got down by 12 early on. Yes they started chipping away late in the 1st, but they should have clamped down on defense better than they did early in the game and that wouldn't have happened, which would have been the "Martin Way". We took way too many 3's and didn't work inside like should have early on as well, even though those 3's later on are what got us really climbing back in the 2nd half.

Also, I could be mistaken but if I'm reading you correctly, you're contradicting yourself by saying that CCM did a great job coaching, but the players didn't do what is asked and expected of them. If that's the case, then you're agreeing with me in my saying that the team pulled themselves together and got it done. I just believe that if they'd bought into CCM's philosophy and tightened up on defense earlier on, ESPECIALLY with Stokes, then we wouldn't have had to dig ourselves out of the hole we fell in.

But then again, this is Volnation, where opinions against the common flow are not welcomed, even though they are opinions. I didn't share mine to make you happy this morning. It was just my :twocents:, so take it as you wish. eace2:

 

[1972 Grad]

I am with OP. I was totally behind Cuonzo until late November. I have always liked him but have felt he wasn't the guy. I was reminded by hearing Mcaffrey that character building is big in coaching. Also, he had his guys scratching and clawing with nothing was going right. He has shown that he can coach and he can rally a team whose backs are against the wall. I think the other stuff can be learned along the way. I think there is something to be said for class and character. I like not having a snake oil salesman as a coach, having a guy who honors his family before career, and does things the right way. (those were not references to CBP but to many coaches today who win at all costs and embarrass programs along the way). I am with Cuonzo, regardless of what happens tomorrow. Flame away.

Bruce Pearl a snake oil salesman? Who would think that? He was no worse than Kiffin.

 

[VolsByNature]

Calling for a mans job is always a bit much for me. But, calling supporters of Martin "stupid" or "doesn't understand basketball" was just beyond frustrating. Life lessons have taught me to enjoy the moments. Good or bad. Support who we have and support who we have in the future.

 

[drewtigeralum]

Ok, I knew someone would think I pissed in their cheerios with my post. Anyway, the "Pearl Way" would have been much faster and full press and getting back on transition defense, which we didn't do and is why we got down by 12 early on. Yes they started chipping away late in the 1st, but they should have clamped down on defense better than they did early in the game and that wouldn't have happened, which would have been the "Martin Way". We took way too many 3's and didn't work inside like should have early on as well, even though those 3's later on are what got us really climbing back in the 2nd half.

Also, I could be mistaken but if I'm reading you correctly, you're contradicting yourself by saying that CCM did a great job coaching, but the players didn't do what is asked and expected of them. If that's the case, then you're agreeing with me in my saying that the team pulled themselves together and got it done. I just believe that if they'd bought into CCM's philosophy and tightened up on defense earlier on, ESPECIALLY with Stokes, then we wouldn't have had to dig ourselves out of the hole we fell in.

But then again, this is Volnation, where opinions against the common flow are not welcomed, even though they are opinions. I didn't share mine to make you happy this morning. It was just my :twocents:, so take it as you wish. eace2:

This is a crazy thought, but maybe Iowa was pretty good, and came out playing inspired for their coach and his son. They were red hot from 3 and when that happens this year they have run teams...good teams, out of the gym. U.T. took their best punch and closed the gap to 3 at half time. Also, running with Iowa is a terrible idea.

 

[UT's#1Fan]

CCM. I have been critical of CCM and the style of play exhibited by this team but I have changed my mind. Hearing the Iowa coach speak about the class that CCM and this team showed after the game convinced me CCM is the right man for the job. I say let's give him some time to grow as a coach and the best players in the country will want to play for him. He constantly talks about representing TN is a positive light. No discipline problems since he has been here. The man is a class act with incredible character. He will recruit players with character. It's only a matter of time before he will be extremely successful. You can't do things the right way and not get good results. He has my support and he now deserves an extension. JMO!:rock:

(let me preface my response with the fact that this forum is littered with complimentary comments from me about the way the team played last night... this is my first post in response to the band wagon jumpers)

Pathetic. Let's keep things in perspective... we beat a team that's lost 6 of their last 7 games and who's coach was dealing with some serious off the court stuff at home. Plus it's not like we dominated them, we took the first lead with a few minutes to go... that's to their credit of course... but let’s not start crowning the Cuonzo the next John Wooden.

Great win, no doubt and it was a well coached game in that Martin didn't screw things up. But let's not let a win in the first four erase the inconsistencies of the past.

Martin is probably a great guy but so is my Pharmacist, I'd don't want my Pharmacist to be the coach of Tennessee. Beat UMass and then Duke... now we're talking.

Don't forget, Dooley was a Vandy win away from securing another year... had he won that game, it wouldn't have meant he was any better a coach.

 

[terrypedigo]

I am not a ZO lover other than that one game, where he called timeout when we hit the shot, that would have won the game he has done a pretty good job, we were in a lot of the games that we lost till the end, but we could not knock down a shot, we very well could have won 5 or 6 more games if a shot would have gone down, then we would have a different out look on coach ZO, my concern is the recruiting, I just don't see no talent coming in that we can play with the top in the SEC next year or the year after.

 

[supersmo18]

Lackluster? The players came out trying to play the Pearl way (the way so many "experts" on here think is best) and nearly got run out of the gym. With about 5 mins left in the 1st half, they started playing how Martin has been preaching his whole time here and lo and behold, a victory. A good victory in the NCAA tournament. Maybe, just maybe, it's the players not always doing what is asked and expected of them.

And for the record, I really like CCM. I hope he succeeds here, and, I was against Pearl coming back. I hardly claim to be an "expert," as you put it, assuming that the "Pearl way" is best.

 

[zansdad]

Always hot or cold here.

Read my mind. Place is darn near bipolar.