I've never Known America to win a war post WWII

[PEPPERJAX]

War on Education. We left that b!tch a smoldering ruin.

Troof!

 

[scooty_vol]

Korean War
Vietnam War
Cold War
Clintons Kosovo war
Afghanastan
Iraq


All of those countries are the same or worse of after America showed up.

Define winning. We basically quit in Vietnam.

I'd say we won the cold war but all the communists became college professors, so I guess we lost that one.

We won Afghanistan but you can't rebuild a free nation without the citizens being Christians.

Iraq... see Afghanistan.

Not sure about Kosova.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Define winning. We basically quit in Vietnam.

So a loss.

I'd say we won the cold war but all the communists became college professors, so I guess we lost that one.

So we beat the communists overseas, but lost to them right here at home?

Loss

We won Afghanistan but you can't rebuild a free nation without the citizens being Christians.

Then why did we go there in the first pace?

Loss

Iraq... see Afghanistan.

Same... see Iraq.

Loss

Not sure about Kosova.

Kosovo is the basis for Russia's SMO in Ukraine.

Loss

 

[EasternVol]

Define winning. We basically quit in Vietnam.

We didn't achieve our objectives, left, and surrendered the field. So a loss.

I'd say we won the cold war but all the communists became college professors, so I guess we lost that one.

It wasn't really a war but we won the race and then squandered the victory.

We won Afghanistan but you can't rebuild a free nation without the citizens being Christians.

It's a loss since we couldn't hold our gains. If we won then why did Trump surrender and Biden continue (incompetently) with the surrender agreement? We didn't try to rebuild a free nation. That's a ridiculous statement about religion.

 

[OHvol40]

America hasn’t entered a war in 70+ years where the only objective is to defeat an enemy. We’ve just been drumming up business.

 

[KB5252]

The military didn't lose a single one of the campaigns mentioned so far.

 

[scooty_vol]

So a loss.


So we beat the communists overseas, but lost to them right here at home?

Loss


Then why did we go there in the first pace?

Loss



Same... see Iraq.

Loss


Kosovo is the basis for Russia's SMO in Ukraine.

Loss

I understand what you're saying. I'm saying is that we were not defeated or beaten, we stopped fighting. We won the Iraq and Afghanistan war, we couldn't convert them when we were nation building

 

[scooty_vol]

We didn't achieve our objectives, left, and surrendered the field. So a loss.

It wasn't really a war but we won the race and then squandered the victory.


It's a loss since we couldn't hold our gains. If we won then why did Trump surrender and Biden continue (incompetently) with the surrender agreement? We didn't try to rebuild a free nation. That's a ridiculous statement about religion.

No, it's quite accurate about religion.

 

[EasternVol]

No, it's quite accurate about religion.

Japan says hi.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I understand what you're saying. I'm saying is that we were not defeated or beaten, we stopped fighting. We won the Iraq and Afghanistan war, we couldn't convert them when we were nation building

Again... those are two different arguments.

Did the US military (boots on the ground) do their duty and kill folks? Yes.

But in the planning of the conflict by Washington DC politicos and in the pullout later... did the US accomplish their political goals? No.

And that is the point. If the political goals were not achieved, then the war was NOT a success.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No, it's quite accurate about religion.

Uhhh, not really. I used to think the same way you do now about 10 years ago. But Islam is not the problem in the Middle East.

Islamic countries in the Middle East only have two (2) genders.

 

[EasternVol]

I understand what you're saying. I'm saying is that we were not defeated or beaten, we stopped fighting. We won the Iraq and Afghanistan war, we couldn't convert them when we were nation building

It's difficult to convert people that resent their invaders.
What nation building, especially in Iraq? They had infrastructure until we blew it up.

 

[benholt06]

Compare South Korea to North Korea.

Lol pretty sure the idea was to have 1 free Korea. But every conflict needs some positive spin.