Jalen Hurd to declare

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Hope he distances himself from certain people currently close to him that use him for whats to come. Like hire attorneys and get restraining order type stuff....

Bad people lurking in the shadows....
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He's way better than Derrick Henry.

Hurd will be a more explosive Eddie George.

Someone will get a pro-bowl RB for cheap if he does fall in the draft.
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Nowhere near as good as Henry....Henry has better burst and much better top end speed.

And saying he's more explosive than George ain't saying much.....he typically ran at a snail's pace in the NFL before falling forward for 3 yards.

You've always been wrong about Hurd and you're wrong again now. Give it up. You've finally come around on Kamara after two solid years of ignoring him and saying Hurd was better.....ride that train son so you can finally be right about something.
 
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madbamahater said:
Hope he distances himself from certain people currently close to him that use him for whats to come. Like hire attorneys and get restraining order type stuff....

Bad people lurking in the shadows....
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Actually, it's been reported and said that his family, certainly his mother, tried to talk him out of leaving Tennessee. So if anything, it appears he got overly emotional, ignored the wise counsel of those around him, and made a really dumb decision on his own.
 
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BearCat204 said:
You are such a dumb beaver. Do you even watch pro football....in particular the Titans when they get Henry involved?
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dumb beaver? LOL. I would have said it differently, but you sneaked it in perfectly. Henry just got a calf injury, and that idiot calls him a bust. I have to wonder what drugs his mother did while pregnant.
 
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KBVol said:
Actually, it's been reported and said that his family, certainly his mother, tried to talk him out of leaving Tennessee. So if anything, it appears he got overly emotional, ignored the wise counsel of those around him, and made a really dumb decision on his own.
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He may be referring to a fat little girlfriend.
 
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Unbelievable!

This kid had 5 games left (including the bowl game). He could've kept his mouth shut, rode out the remainder of this season, and left Tennessee a beloved hero while possibly becoming Tennessee's all time rushing leader! Instead he will forever be seen as a quitter and will not be looked back on favorably at all in Knoxville. Not to mention how much this has affected his draft stock. What a stupid, stupid decision he made!
 
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He tweeted that he still intends to transfer. Is it possible an article referencing a tweet from a third party is putting the cart before the horse?
 
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Now that he is where he is, if he's smart he will declare. X-fer from a system that wasn't utilizing him to his fullest potential with the risk of injury each and every play isn't that inconceivable. Late draft pick, earn at least $250k a year, rest up for a year, condition and come out his 2nd year as a beast - just in time for a contract extension or the free agency. Plus the team that picks him up will know where he fits in the system. Of course, he could blow up the combine and raise his stock considerably. In the end, Hurd has completed what he set out to do - reach the NFL.
 
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I just don't understand the hate for Hurd here, honestly. He sacrificed being a clear #1 guy on virtually any team in america running an offense better for him to come to UT and try and help rebuild the program (which he has helped do.) He makes a dumb decision and leaves as one of the best statistical RBs in UT history, with not even 3 full seasons played, in an offense not suited for his style. And if we're honest, if this is the dumbest decision he makes before he's 25 then he's making damn good choices.

He's an above average recieving back, one of the best damn blockers as running back you'll ever see, especially in pass protection, and an all around elite athlete for his size.

Watch Bill Belichick take him and turn him into a more physical Aaron Hernandez with multiple pro bowls on his resume. Or Andy Reid get him and ruin any chance he has.and have him be a 3rd string guy and make a few million sitting on the bench for 10 years. Still more successful than 95% of us.

But eh, let's hate on him and use him as a scapegoat for our season because Derek Mason and Will Muschamp outcoached our staff. Hurd doesn't change those games, period. Not because his talent isn't enough, but because the coaches couldn't get it together for those.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Do you guys even watch pro football?

Or do you think Henry is doing something in the league right now?

Dude is a complete bust. Like I predicted.

Hurd is way better and will have more success right off the bat. He's built for the NFL unlike Henry.
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Your agenda and ego are so overriding you're ability to think clearly here.

Henry is having a fine rookie season. Mike Keith and others with the Titans organization have a completely different opinion of Henry, as do several of the announcers who have called Titans games this year.

If you weren't blinded by your arrogance and ego, you'd know that he's playing behind he second leading rusher in the NFL, veteran Demarco Murray, who was brought in and paid a lot of money to be the feature back this year, thus there are only sporadic, inconsistent carries for Henry this year.

Yet, he's still shown flashes, including excellent burst, power and even good lateral movement to make NFL players miss him. NFL players like Blaine Bishop, Frank Wychek and Kevin Dyson have been extremely complimentary of Henry and have at times asked why he's not getting more opportunities, even though Murray is having an outstanding year.

Get out of your feelings and either admit you were wrong about him vs Hurd or just shut up altogether because, once again, you look foolish for having been so wrong.
 
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KBVol said:
Nowhere near as good as Henry....Henry has better burst and much better top end speed.

And saying he's more explosive than George ain't saying much.....he typically ran at a snail's pace in the NFL before falling forward for 3 yards.

You've always been wrong about Hurd and you're wrong again now. Give it up. You've finally come around on Kamara after two solid years of ignoring him and saying Hurd was better.....ride that train son so you can finally be right about something.
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Da hell??? Kamara only been here for 2 years. How could I still be ignoring him?

And I find it humorous how you keep trying to get at me for only recently seeing how great Kamara is and will be in the NFL. I have openly admitted I didn't think Kamara was gonna be that good in the NFL based on what he did last year. I've never tried to claim I am always right on a player. Or that my opinions about a player always stay the same. When new information arrives I change my position. I got new information about Kamara this season and likewise my outlook on his pro potential changed. Similarly, I was super high on Justin Martin last year. Even went as far as to say I thought he had more pro potential than Cam Sutton. Obviously this season brought us new information. Thus, my position on Justin Martin being potentially better than Cam has to be amended. After what happened this year, I'm not even sure Justin Martin can be a starter in the SEC let alone star in the NFL.

Last year I didn't think Kamara was that good. His body was a lil pudgy. He was getting chased down too much for a guy who was supposed to be a burner. And he simply didn't get many snaps at RB. Silly me for thinking Butch Jones couldn't be so dumb as to keep a weapon like this off the field. This year Kamara changed his body over the off-season and has become significantly more muscular. He got more cut. This has resulted in more explosiveness. And because Hurd left, dumb Butch Jones was forced to let Kamara get extensive snaps and the kids true greatness came out.

I will ONCE AGAIN give you credit for seeing this early on. Though you never really have been high on Kamara vis-a-vis other RBs around the country as I am. For example, while I say Kamara is much better than Dalvin Cook. You don't say that. Your loving of Kamara was mostly just to denigrate Hurd. But thats neither here nor there.

And FYI if we're keeping score on who said what. Aren't you the same guy that spent all off-season telling us Dobbs would not improve as a passer? Weren't you the guy who told me Dobbs increasing his yards per pass attempt from 6.8 to 8.0+ was impossible? And yet, you don't see me following you around every thread telling you were wrong about EVERYTHING you said about Dobbs in the off-season?

I say what I think and keep it moving.

You seem to be the only one that is obsessed with everything I say and tries to keep score.
 
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BearCat204 said:
You are such a dumb beaver. Do you even watch pro football....in particular the Titans when they get Henry involved?
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Henry could set an NFL record for rushing, average yards per carry, 50+ yard runs, receptions for a running back and league MVPs for a career, and D4H would still be here spewing his easily proven false statements and wrong opinions. He's certain he's the smartest guy in the room despite all the evidence to the contrary. Just is what it is.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Da hell??? Kamara only been here for 2 years. How could I still be ignoring him?

And I find it humorous how you keep trying to get at me for only recently seeing how great Kamara is and will be in the NFL. I have openly admitted I didn't think Kamara was gonna be that good in the NFL based on what he did last year. I've never tried to claim I am always right on a player. Or that my opinions about a player always stay the same. When new information arrives I change my position. I got new information about Kamara this season and likewise my outlook on his pro potential changed. Similarly, I was super high on Justin Martin last year. Even went as far as to say I thought he had more pro potential than Cam Sutton. Obviously this season brought us new information. Thus, my position on Justin Martin being potentially better than Cam has to be amended. After what happened this year, I'm not even sure Justin Martin can be a starter in the SEC let alone star in the NFL.

Last year I didn't think Kamara was that good. His body was a lil pudgy. He was getting chased down too much for a guy who was supposed to be a burner. And he simply didn't get many snaps at RB. Silly me for thinking Butch Jones couldn't be so dumb as to keep a weapon like this off the field. This year Kamara changed his body over the off-season and has become significantly more muscular. He got more cut. This has resulted in more explosiveness. And because Hurd left, dumb Butch Jones was forced to let Kamara get extensive snaps and the kids true greatness came out.

I will ONCE AGAIN give you credit for seeing this early on. Though you never really have been high on Kamara vis-a-vis other RBs around the country as I am. For example, while I say Kamara is much better than Dalvin Cook. You don't say that. Your loving of Kamara was mostly just to denigrate Hurd. But thats neither here nor there.

And FYI if we're keeping score on who said what. Aren't you the same guy that spent all off-season telling us Dobbs would not improve as a passer? Weren't you the guy who told me Dobbs increasing his yards per pass attempt from 6.8 to 8.0+ was impossible? And yet, you don't see me following you around every thread telling you were wrong about EVERYTHING you said about Dobbs in the off-season?

I say what I think and keep it moving.

You seem to be the only one that is obsessed with everything I say and tries to keep score.
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And I was getting ready to give you credit for FINALLY showing some humility and contrition....but then you trot out the "Kamara's body was still a little pudgy" line .....bawhahaha! Omg. Alvin Kamara was the EXACT same player in 2015 as he was in 2016...the only difference is that he was finally given the opportunity to play and excel when a certain jumbo-sized, incredibly overrated and overused running back decided to get in his feelings (vs Georgia and then held out vs TAM) and quit the team. And anybody who legitimately knows what they're looking at with respect to football players and talent have been saying that Alvin was the more talented player and needed much more involvement in the offense from day one.

And as far as contrition goes, I'll eat my crow here as well .....I had a similar opinion of Justin Martin as you and really thought he'd grow to be an outstanding corner opposite Sutton this year. I thought he'd be a certain NFL draft pick in either 2017 or 2018...I was clearly wrong there. I was also badly mistaken about what I thought was a homerun hire in Bob Shoop.

As far as Dobbs, I never said it would be impossible for him to improve and/or get his yards per attempt to 8.0. I said you were being ridiculous with your comments about him going to the Heisman ceremony, being a first round pick, and accumulating 42 tds and 4250 total yards.

I'll gladly eat crow and admit you were right about improving his downfield accuracy and and that he's gotten so close to your predicted tds. Dobbs, outside of turnovers, has been a bright spot of team 120....one of very few.

Finally, my promotion of Kamara from day one was based on what I saw in him, had nothing to do with Hurd....other than he was clearly better than Hurd and needed to play more to help the team. That's it. I've praised Hurd many times and I still advocated him being an integral part of the offense....but I was honest about what I saw, and that's that, surprisingly, he was limited as a pure running back and that overusing him like we did, limited our offense and ability to win games.
 
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He'll never be a pro. He's not a good RB. He doesnt have quick feet. He can't make any kind of cut. I highly doubt anyone takes a chance on him. If he finished the season then maybe, but all those question marks PLUS being a quitter I think GMs will pass.
 
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Why does anyone respond to D4H? Seriously, stop quoting the dolt.
"Henry out of the league in 2 years?"
Dumb doesn't even begin to describe that.

I think someone will take a chance on Hurd in the later rounds.
 
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I got to thinking. Anyone wonder if maybe he gave up to save his body for the NFL? I bet he was worried with everyone else dropping like flies. Something to consider. Maybe he just wanted to survive the season to getaste in the league injury free
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I got to thinking. Anyone wonder if maybe he gave up to save his body for the NFL? I bet he was worried with everyone else dropping like flies. Something to consider. Maybe he just wanted to survive the season to getaste in the league injury free
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Quitting on your team is a severe detriment to your draft status.
 
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TennTom said:
Quitting on your team is a severe detriment to your draft status.
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Yes it is but if people like Greg Hardy can get multiple shots at the NFL, Jalen can get one. Quitting definitely sends a bad message but most will look the other way.
 
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TennTom said:
Quitting on your team is a severe detriment to your draft status.
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Was quitting a completely D$ick move by him? Absolutely. But it won't hurt his draft status much, if at all, given that he's not had any other issues that we know of.
 
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