James Harrison Returns Sons' Participation Trophies

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FLVOL_79 said:
The problem is with these trophies it isn't like the old days where first place got the big trophy and third got the smallest. No. Nowadays everyone gets the same exact trophy.

HBO has a documentary on participation trophy culture and its sickening to watch these parents AND the people organizing the events.
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Spot on! Everyone is worried that little Johnny won't get his trophy even though he and his team may have not be worthy... It's also about the parents posting their pics on Facebook with their uniform and trophy
 
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Vol8188 said:
Lol that's what it is. If you're not intentionally trying to offend others by dropping the N bomb every three seconds, it's because someone ruined your life by giving you a participation trophy.
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Sorry to offend, but it's true.

No one has a sense of humor anymore about anything/everything - people walking around trying to find things to be offended by - pretty sad actually.

Why give out participation trophies in the first place? So some kid and/or parent doesn't get their feelings hurt? Very similar concept to overreach on political correctness.
 
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Let's see - it's over reacting to suggest a problem with participation trophies

It's not overreacting when one criticizes a parent for raising his kids the way he wants with regard to participation trophies.

got it
 
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ajvol01 said:
Why give out participation trophies in the first place? So some kid and/or parent doesn't get their feelings hurt? Very similar concept to overreach on political correctness.
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Give them out because youth sports are supposed to be a fun introduction to a sport. There's plenty of time to get serious but only a small window to just play the game as a kid.

This has zero to do with the pc boogeyman
 
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utvolpj said:
Give them out because youth sports are supposed to be a fun introduction to a sport. There's plenty of time to get serious but only a small window to just play the game as a kid.

This has zero to do with the pc boogeyman
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I had fun playing sports even when I didn't get a trophy.

What is fun about everyone getting the same trophy?
 
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ajvol01 said:
I had fun playing sports even when I didn't get a trophy.

What is fun about everyone getting the same trophy?
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Who cares? If the little kids enjoy it then what's the harm? If one kid doesn't want it them he can trash it on his way off the field. It's just a trinket

There are plenty of things my boys do that I wouldn't call fun but they seem to enjoy. One of mine enjoys seeing if he can bounce the ball hard enough off the backboard to make it into the pool. Should I sit him down and instruct him on the intricacies of a proper jump shot? Should I nip it right in the bud and let him know that type of merriment will not be tolerated when it comes to his athletic future?
 
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utvolpj said:
Who cares? If the little kids enjoy it then what's the harm? If one kid doesn't want it them he can trash it on his way off the field. It's just a trinket

There are plenty of things my boys do that I wouldn't call fun but they seem to enjoy. One of mine enjoys seeing if he can bounce the ball hard enough off the backboard to make it into the pool. Should I sit him down and instruct him on the intricacies of a proper jump shot? Should I nip it right in the bud and let him know that type of merriment will not be tolerated when it comes to his athletic future?
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I would be interested to know, of all those on this board who are in favor of James Harrison's actions, how many actually have kids of their own. There are many things that I THOUGHT I knew and would do when it came to child-rearing before I actually had kids.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I would be interested to know, of all those on this board who are in favor of James Harrison's actions, how many actually have kids of their own. There are many things that I THOUGHT I knew and would do when it came to child-rearing before I actually had kids.
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I have four kids of my own.....I don't believe in participation trophies but haven't taken them away from my kids....I am much harder on my kids than other parents and typically get stares when working with my daughter on her basketball game at the park.
 
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utvolpj said:
Who cares? If the little kids enjoy it then what's the harm? If one kid doesn't want it them he can trash it on his way off the field. It's just a trinket

There are plenty of things my boys do that I wouldn't call fun but they seem to enjoy. One of mine enjoys seeing if he can bounce the ball hard enough off the backboard to make it into the pool. Should I sit him down and instruct him on the intricacies of a proper jump shot? Should I nip it right in the bud and let him know that type of merriment will not be tolerated when it comes to his athletic future?
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He is not taking the trophies from other kids....he is using it as a leaning example for his kids......Honestly, you have to decide what is best for your kids.....I would let my kid do the backboard into the pool thing but I do not let her throw up junk shots....she knows how she is allowed to warm up and she doesn't stand out there launching long threes like most of the kids her age.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'm still waiting for James Harrison to return his roster bonus.....why should he be rewarded for doing the bare minimum?
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You realize making the team at the professional level is different than kid sports where anyone who wants to play can play right?
 
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Vol8188 said:
And that's perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean you have to return trophies and cause a scene to get that message across. He should be teaching his child to be grateful for the trophy be was given, not to return it and cause a scene in order to make an unnecessary point.
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why do you have to tell him how to raise his kids?
 
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volbeast33 said:
I have four kids of my own.....I don't believe in participation trophies but haven't taken them away from my kids....I am much harder on my kids than other parents and typically get stares when working with my daughter on her basketball game at the park.
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And that's all I'm talking about here. My issue with Harrison isn't his stance on participation trophies. My issue with him is the fact that he took his kid's trophies away from them after they got them. That's wrong IMO. The way I see it, those trophies were NOT his to take away. Like I said, it was completely a dick move on his part and an abuse of his parental authority.
 
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volinbham said:
why do you have to tell him how to raise his kids?
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If I was interested in doing that I might say something about respecting their mother and keeping known aggressive dogs away from very small kids. But I'm not really interested in that

:Kermitdrinkingtea:
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
And that's all I'm talking about here. My issue with Harrison isn't his stance on participation trophies. My issue with him is the fact that he took his kid's trophies away from them after they got them. That's wrong IMO. The way I see it, those trophies were NOT his to take away. Like I said, it was completely a dick move on his part and an abuse of his parental authority.
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abuse of parental authority? Wow, and people told me I was overreacting.
 
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utvolpj said:
Who cares? If the little kids enjoy it then what's the harm? If one kid doesn't want it them he can trash it on his way off the field. It's just a trinket

There are plenty of things my boys do that I wouldn't call fun but they seem to enjoy. One of mine enjoys seeing if he can bounce the ball hard enough off the backboard to make it into the pool. Should I sit him down and instruct him on the intricacies of a proper jump shot? Should I nip it right in the bud and let him know that type of merriment will not be tolerated when it comes to his athletic future?
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You're twisting everything I said.

I don't necessarily agree with Harrison, but not a fan of participation trophies.

I think we can just agree to disagree.
 
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volinbham said:
abuse of parental authority? Wow, and people told me I was overreacting.
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no other word I could think of for it honestly. Teaching your kids to understand the insignificance of receiving a participation trophy is one thing. Taking trophies away from your kids and making them give them back is being a parental bully.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
no other word I could think of for it honestly. Teaching your kids to understand the insignificance of receiving a participation trophy is one thing. Taking trophies away from your kids and making them give them back is being a parental bully.
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I think it depends entirely on how he did it and what his relationship with the kids is already like. IOW - I don't have enough information to condemn his actions though I do agree with his view on participation trophies.

I'll also add that if getting trophies for participation essentially mean nothing and have zero impact on a kid then refusing them should have no effect on the kid.
 
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volinbham said:
I'll also add that if getting trophies for participation essentially mean nothing and have zero impact on a kid then refusing them should have no effect on the kid.
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There's a big difference in not accepting them and showing up after the fact to take them away. I have little doubt that the sign up form let them know there was a trophy at the end of the season
 
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utvolpj said:
There's a big difference in not accepting them and showing up after the fact to take them away. I have little doubt that the sign up form let them know there was a trophy at the end of the season
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maybe, maybe not. Maybe his kids don't give a crap about the trophies and agree with their pop.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Yeah and he is instilling that work ethic in his sons.
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Again, all I can say is how I would feel if my Dad had done that to me growing up. I can honestly say my take away from that would be that my dad is a jerk for taking my trophy away from me. That ridiculous gesture wouldn't have had one iota of impact on my work ethic whatsoever.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Again, all I can say is how I would feel if my Dad had done that to me growing up. I can honestly say my take away from that would be that my dad is a jerk for taking my trophy away from me. That ridiculous gesture wouldn't have had one iota of impact on my work ethic whatsoever.
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It wouldn't bother me as a kid....if he teaches a continuous and steady message with his kids then they will understand as they get older.
 
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