James Harrison Returns Sons' Participation Trophies

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FLVOL_79 said:
The problem is with these trophies it isn't like the old days where first place got the big trophy and third got the smallest. No. Nowadays everyone gets the same exact trophy.
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In the old days (for me we're talking around 1980) kids all got the same trophies when they were 5-7yo. If it didn't have an effect then, it doesn't have one now
 
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What Harrison did was a dick move. His kids had already received the trophies. For him to take them away from his kids and return them after they had already received them was complete abuse of his authority as their father.

Hey Harrison, you want to teach your kids a valuable lesson? How about the lesson of not taking something away from somebody that doesn't belong to you. You may not agree with your kids receiving those trophies for participation but at the same time, those weren't your trophies to take away either.
 
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jjay2518 said:
And giving a participation trophy to a five year old takes away from that?

IMO this is a total non-issue. A few participation trophies that a kid couldn't give two flips about isn't going to move the needle at all on the entitlement meter. That's pretty much 100% on how parents treat and interact with their kids on a day to day basis. If a parent raises their kids to have a good with ethic, then the kid will be able to differentiate on their own which trophies are meaningful.
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Boom
 
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utvolpj said:
In the old days (for me we're talking around 1980) kids all got the same trophies when they were 5-7yo. If it didn't have an effect then, it doesn't have one now
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It doesn't but I respect him for teaching his kids what he feels is important at an early age. The more involved with sports I realize how much I dislike the participation trophy mentality and I try to avoid those kind of leagues for my kids.
 
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volbeast33 said:
It doesn't but I respect him for teaching his kids what he feels is important at an early age. The more involved with sports I realize how much I dislike the participation trophy mentality and I try to avoid those kind of leagues for my kids.
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Kids that age need leagues that concentrate on skills and learning the game over keeping score and win/loss records. People like to claim that is the "participation trophy mentality" when it's the same thing that's been practiced in youth leagues for decades

A 5yo shouldn't be worried that his dad will come take his trophy away because he didn't pull down enough boards to suit him
 
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volbeast33 said:
It doesn't but I respect him for teaching his kids what he feels is important at an early age. The more involved with sports I realize how much I dislike the participation trophy mentality and I try to avoid those kind of leagues for my kids.
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I respect Harrison's opinion on participation trophies. However I do not respect or agree with him taking the trophies away from his kids once they already received them. To me that is an abuse of his authority as a parent. They weren't HIS trophies to return! Now, if the situation had been where he had a discussion with his kids and made them understand WHY receiving participation trophies is wrong and the kids volunteered to return the trophies, that would've been a different story. If I were his kids, the only lesson I would have learned from that would've been that my dad is an a-hole and he can take my things from me whenever he wants.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Surely you're not special enough to believe that larger trophies lead to more entitled kids.
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Let's change the trophy's to candy.

If I kept scratching my ass as a kid and my mom handed me a piece of chocolate every time I did that, I would keep doing it.

Milk the system for all she is worth.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I respect Harrison's opinion on participation trophies. However I do not respect or agree with him taking the trophies away from his kids once they already received them. To me that is an abuse of his authority as a parent. They weren't HIS trophies to return! Now, if the situation had been where he had a discussion with his kids and made them understand WHY receiving participation trophies is wrong and the kids volunteered to return the trophies, that would've been a different story. If I were his kids, the only lesson I would have learned from that would've been that my dad is an a-hole and he can take my things from me whenever he wants.
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I disagree.....its not abuse of power......he as higher goals for his kids athletically than I am sure that you do for yours. Kids are a lot tougher mentally than you think that they are. He is setting a foundation for them to learn how to be an athlete at an early age when they learn the best.
 
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volinreallife said:
Let's change the trophy's to candy.

If I kept scratching my ass as a kid and my mom handed me a piece of chocolate every time I did that, I would keep doing it.

Milk the system for all she is worth.
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The obvious difference is that being active and playing sports is a positive and should be reinforced, unlike scratching your ass.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The obvious difference is that being active and playing sports is a positive and should be reinforced, unlike scratching your ass.
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I think his goals for his kids are higher than being active which is what he is trying to stress to his kids.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I think his goals for his kids are higher than being active which is what he is trying to stress to his kids.
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His kid is 5 or 6yo. Taking away their possessions because of their current athletic skills is asinine
 
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volbeast33 said:
I think his goals for his kids are higher than being active which is what he is trying to stress to his kids.
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And that's perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean you have to return trophies and cause a scene to get that message across. He should be teaching his child to be grateful for the trophy be was given, not to return it and cause a scene in order to make an unnecessary point.
 
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I'm still waiting for James Harrison to return his roster bonus.....why should he be rewarded for doing the bare minimum?
 
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I'd like to meet him across the middle. Just in general. Nothing to do with his parenting. Just give me one shot at him in the open field.
 
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It's absurd how some want to politicize trophies and try to connect them to entitlement programs and everything else.
 
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utvolpj said:
His kid is 5 or 6yo. Taking away their possessions because of their current athletic skills is asinine
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His kids are 6 and 8 yrs old.....I have a daughter that is a pretty good basketball player.....I push her as hard as I can possibly push her....My son who was 6 at the time....stopped and asked why I didn't get on to him like I did his sister....I had to create reasons to make him run, do push ups and whatever motivation to make him think I cared as much about his sports as I did his sister. I don't think its about the possession but teaching them the work required to earn things.....Its the hardest lesson to teach young athletes.
 
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volbeast33 said:
His kids are 6 and 8 yrs old.....I have a daughter that is a pretty good basketball player.....I push her as hard as I can possibly push her....My son who was 6 at the time....stopped and asked why I didn't get on to him like I did his sister....I had to create reasons to make him run, do push ups and whatever motivation to make him think I cared as much about his sports as I did his sister. I don't think its about the possession but teaching them the work required to earn things.....Its the hardest lesson to teach young athletes.
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At the end of a season all athletes have put in work.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Participation trophies are hand in hand with political correctness aka the pussification of America.
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Lol that's what it is. If you're not intentionally trying to offend others by dropping the N bomb every three seconds, it's because someone ruined your life by giving you a participation trophy.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Participation trophies are hand in hand with political correctness aka the pussification of America.
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:eek:lol:
You just used 3 of the most trite and ridiculous phrases floating around today. If you could somehow tie it to socialism you'd hit the jackpot
 
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