Jarrett Guarantano Learning X can be BRUTAL!

#53
#53
Thinking back on these years the answer was ……..we didn’t have Josh Heupel or Danny White. Seems like a common answer but cmon. Look at what they have done. Management is amazing. Hooker wasn’t that good at VT. Milton got to the pros playing at Tennessee. Go vols.
 
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Always get a chuckle when fans take what's put on social media or message boards seriously. Guess this generation didn't grow up hearing the old saying about sticks and stones?? The whole social media thing is kinda silly if you really think about it.
 
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I don’t understand piling on a kid who tried his best? He made a big mistake, move on.

He turned a corner and was good enough to play ball for a while. Unfortunately you rarely see improvement from the low class fans with their high evaluations of their posting and radio show skills. We are not the only program plagued by their presence. Not much of a consolation though. Heck, Finebaum has made a fortune featuring some across football.
 
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Sometimes I just don't get some of the fans. I really don't.
I agree. People who do what this person did on X to JG are to be shunned by the society…Utterly classless with a strong dose of cowardly bullying. Kinda turns your stomach to realize what actually lives in the heart of some people. And maybe just as sickening…people who actually attempt to support such buffoonery.
 
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I know I bashed JG from time to time on here. Looking back I will admit I'm a kinda ashamed. I can honestly say in all my years watching college and pro football, I have never seen a QB take an absolute beating like he did and still bounce right back up. At times I wondered if his o-line was intentionally doing it. It was brutal to watch. Kid was tough as nails. He was dealt a sh*t hand with coaches who were more fit for high school ball than SEC football. If I was his age, and went through what he did here, I probably wouldn't want anything to do with this program. Hoping he finds his niche in his post football life, whatever that is. Even better if it involves cover Tennessee football.
I was very critical of him also but it also had to be very difficult as I remember him having to play off his back because the o-line couldn't protect him. He took a terrible beating every game.
 
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Fans want to be associated with winning and being the best. It's affirming for them, it bolsters their ego and sense of self-worth. And most people want to be in groups. Whether we consciously realize it or not. Tennessee athletics is one such group.

When a player or team does poorly, so poorly that the team is viewed as "bad," fans can and will try to distance themselves psychologically from those people. You've met the type, right? They're all "rah rah" and "Go Vols" when it's easy and Tennessee is winning, but when Tennessee struggled or was irrelevant, those people turn hostile or switch to attacking or trashing the program and the people involved with it. It's an act, more for the self than it is for other people. "I don't cheer for losers." Because only suckers would cheer for losers, right? So they create distance, in their own mind, to try to feel better about being a fan of the team, and to disassociate from the losing. This isn't unique to Tennessee. Fans do it across all of sports. We've all met that guy, or girl, who turns into a real hater when the chips are down.

So in Guarantano's case, due to the team's poor results and Guarantano's struggles, you're going to run into Tennessee fans who want to belittle or insult him whenever he's brougth up. Derision. Scorn. Cast out the unclean. Etc, etc. He was the QB, so he's a poster child for "bad Tennessee." And some people really can't let it go.

For the record, Guarantao put up with a lot of BS and while he made poor decisions he went out there and kept fighting. Did that play suck? A thousand percent. I don't get it, to this day. But the guy's A-okay in my book.
i am not sure why I read this thread----but this is a great post and all of us should reflect
 
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If you were there in person to witness the North Texas State debacle in Neyland (edit: 10/25/1975), you’d have perspective on the Vols teams who have had less than successful seasons at UT. A small regional college team missing 16 first and second team players came to Neyland as the sacrificial lambs for a home game schedule of an underperforming Volunteers team who found a way to lose. I still see in my mind the final play in which the Tennessee QB ignored two open receivers in the endzone to throw the ball out of bounds to stop the clock when time had already expired. Nothing that JG did during his time as a Vol compares to that sad moment. Nothing, not even the highlighted play at the goal line vs B***.

Edit: The infamous North Texas State handoff occurred during the game, and it’s a close second to the futility of the final play.
 
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I became a fan of the Vols in 1974, when I enrolled at UT, the only university that offered me the financial aid that I needed. I’ve seen some tremendous football teams and some sad football teams wearing the orange since, and I respect every player that ever put on the uniform, even the ones who seldom if ever played a snap during a game. It’s beyond most of us posting to VN. GBO.
 
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As they say on The Price Is Right.....Jarrett Guarantano come on down. Don't let the negativity of some get you down or keep you away from the Hill.

 
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I bashed on JG's playing while he was here because it was lacking at times but I will never in any way besmirch his heart, leadership or love of TN.

JG got a raw deal coming to TN when it had a coach who was not worthy of him (or us). He gave us all he could under the circumstances and that is all we can ask. If he had come under Heupel, it is likely he could have been a MUCH better QB.

Absolutely. The talent was there, kid was a four star if I recall correctly. He was poorly developed by an inept coaching staff. I know at the time I thought he was just throwing tantrums, now I’m convinced that he rebelled because Pruitt treated him like crap. JG is always welcome back on The Hill as far as I’m concerned.
 
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