Jaylen McCollough arrested

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PlanetVolunteer said:
The pearl clutchers sitting in their holier than thought thrones giddy at trying to attribute as much guilt to Jaylen as possible are literally the worst type of people on the planet.

Judgmental pieces of utter trash. Glad you're perfect.

It's not that what he did was right, but you people are always the first to cast a stone.

I mean you all get triggered by someone saying "well we don't know all the facts yet" so you WANT the person to be as guilty as possible. I think you people need therapy.
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Dude I can clutch the hell out of some pearls but this is an obscure set of circumstances. Definitely don’t want McCullough’s life turned upside down bc he defended himself.
 
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These things are no-win for the HC. Sit the guy and he's jumping to conclusions. Let him play until everything comes to light, and he gets drug through the mud for playing a "criminal." Everyone has an opinion and a platform to share it these days.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
These things are no-win for the HC. Sit the guy and he's jumping to conclusions. Let him play until everything comes to light, and he gets drug through the mud for playing a "criminal." Everyone has an opinion and a platform to share it these days.
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And at the end of the day, if he backs his players he believes are innocent, that does more positive than the smear merchants in the media do negative.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Again you could be entirely right, you could be entirely wrong. Last I heard we haven’t got a statement from McCullough yet. I just do not want to see a kid have his life ruined unless we have concrete evidence that he was in the wrong. Just too many missing pieces of info right now to know how this all went down.

This isn’t some kid that went out looking for trouble, this isn’t some kid that was in the wrong place and trouble found him. This guy was in his house when everything started, escalated at some point, and everything blew up. What exactly escalated it we don’t know whether it was verbal, physical, etc. Where the physical altercation started we also do not know. I think you can agree that with this particular case of player conduct it’s not as cut and dry as some instances.
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Every bit of that may well be true, with one caveat....

I'm pretty sure there was a point during the whole kerfuffle when he could have simply locked the door and gone back to whatever it was he was doing rather than throwing hands with some drunk fool.....

If it turns out said "drunk fool" waltzed in and started being belligerent (as he may well have been, I'd be pretty belligerent if I walked into what I thought was MY apartment and found random people sitting on my couch watching my TV and eating my food) then McCullough was completely in the right to rough dude up and toss him out the door.

But here's the question I can't quite wrap my head around.... Why wouldn't that be the very. first. thing. he told the cops when they got there? I get the whole "clam up, it's the cops" attitude but in the above instance?

If that's what happened (above) I'm telling the cops, the neighbors, calling my position coach and telling him, calling Coach Heupel and telling him, calling my boss (if he has a job outside of school) and telling him / her, calling..... I think you get the point.

Exercising his right to remain silent just seems fishy at best.....
 
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GhostVol said:
Every bit of that may well be true, with one caveat....

I'm pretty sure there was a point during the whole kerfuffle when he could have simply locked the door and gone back to whatever it was he was doing rather than throwing hands with some drunk fool.....

If it turns out said "drunk fool" waltzed in and started being belligerent (as he may well have been, I'd be pretty belligerent if I walked into what I thought was MY apartment and found random people sitting on my couch watching my TV and eating my food) then McCullough was completely in the right to rough dude up and toss him out the door.

But here's the question I can't quite wrap my head around.... Why wouldn't that be the very. first. thing. he told the cops when they got there? I get the whole "clam up, it's the cops" attitude but in the above instance?

If that's what happened (above) I'm telling the cops, the neighbors, calling my position coach and telling him, calling Coach Heupel and telling him, calling my boss (if he has a job outside of school) and telling him / her, calling..... I think you get the point.

Exercising his right to remain silent just seems fishy at best.....
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because you dont speak to LE without an attorney present.
just dont.
 
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GhostVol said:
Every bit of that may well be true, with one caveat....

I'm pretty sure there was a point during the whole kerfuffle when he could have simply locked the door and gone back to whatever it was he was doing rather than throwing hands with some drunk fool.....

If it turns out said "drunk fool" waltzed in and started being belligerent (as he may well have been, I'd be pretty belligerent if I walked into what I thought was MY apartment and found random people sitting on my couch watching my TV and eating my food) then McCullough was completely in the right to rough dude up and toss him out the door.

But here's the question I can't quite wrap my head around.... Why wouldn't that be the very. first. thing. he told the cops when they got there? I get the whole "clam up, it's the cops" attitude but in the above instance?

If that's what happened (above) I'm telling the cops, the neighbors, calling my position coach and telling him, calling Coach Heupel and telling him, calling my boss (if he has a job outside of school) and telling him / her, calling..... I think you get the point.

Exercising his right to remain silent just seems fishy at best.....
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Some ppl don’t automatically assume the cops are on their side. If I put my boot up someone’s ass even if I’m in the right 100% do you think I’m going to call my boss and tell him. Entirely possible McCullough “helped” him out the door and he fell down the steps.

Again think about the last time you were so intoxicated that you ended up in the wrong house or apartment. I can’t think of a time bc I’ve never been that drunk in my life and left unsupervised.
 
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GhostVol said:
Every bit of that may well be true, with one caveat....

I'm pretty sure there was a point during the whole kerfuffle when he could have simply locked the door and gone back to whatever it was he was doing rather than throwing hands with some drunk fool.....

If it turns out said "drunk fool" waltzed in and started being belligerent (as he may well have been, I'd be pretty belligerent if I walked into what I thought was MY apartment and found random people sitting on my couch watching my TV and eating my food) then McCullough was completely in the right to rough dude up and toss him out the door.

But here's the question I can't quite wrap my head around.... Why wouldn't that be the very. first. thing. he told the cops when they got there? I get the whole "clam up, it's the cops" attitude but in the above instance?

If that's what happened (above) I'm telling the cops, the neighbors, calling my position coach and telling him, calling Coach Heupel and telling him, calling my boss (if he has a job outside of school) and telling him / her, calling..... I think you get the point.

Exercising his right to remain silent just seems fishy at best.....
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If you’re accused of something NEVER say anything to anyone that isn’t privileged. Don’t make a phone call that can be subpoenaed, definitely don’t text someone. Just don’t. This “he didn’t say anything so it makes him look guilty” crap is bass akward.
 
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DustyRockSolid said:
because you dont speak to LE without an attorney present.
just dont.
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Yeah..... like I said, I get that..... If I'd have kept my own big yapper shut I might not have had to spend a night in the pokey
(actually it probably wouldn't have mattered in the least as I was pretty much in the wrong)

But if that scenario played out? I'd be busy putting it up on a billboard when the cops got there.....
 
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So a guy entered his area of the field and he waylaid him and prevented a touchdown and he got arrested?
 
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CNCVol88 said:
And at the end of the day, if he backs his players he believes are innocent, that does more positive than the smear merchants in the media do negative.
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If he what he believes to be the truth turns out to actually be, I agree. But if not, it's a pretty bad look. Thus, the issue.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
The fact that huepel just said “we need more info” and didn’t rule him out from the bama game tells me there’s more to this.
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Yep. I trust Heupel to do what’s right in the end regardless. If he thinks the kid is at fault here, he will be gone.
 
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willinhf said:
we have this all wrong.

Drunk man walks into the wrong apartment in the wrong building. Jaylen sees he is intoxicated and tries to help him find the right apartment.

Jaylen is helping said person down some stairs when the individual slips and falls down the stairs, taking Jaylen with him. Jaylen tries to stop the fall and ends up hitting his hand against the wall and steps—causing extraordinary bleeding and the other individual glacé plants on the fall and knocks out teeth and/or breaks jaw.

Jaylen tells guy to hang on a second and he will go back to get his phone to call for help. Jaylen’s gf comes to assist and Jaylen comes back to the police and the false story.

Said person embarrassed and knows parents will kill himfor being so black out drunk. Makes up entire thing to save face with parents in that he did not fall, but was beat up.
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You must be an attorney.
 
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GhostVol said:
Yeah..... like I said, I get that..... If I'd have kept my own big yapper shut I might not have had to spend a night in the pokey
(actually it probably wouldn't have mattered in the least as I was pretty much in the wrong)

But if that scenario played out? I'd be busy putting it up on a billboard when the cops got there.....
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Again not all law enforcement is your friend. There are plenty of great cops out there. There are a few that just want to resolve things as quickly as possible even if that means taking you to jail. Open your mouth with the wrong one and it can ruin your life.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
If you’re accused of something NEVER say anything to anyone that isn’t privileged. Don’t make a phone call that can be subpoenaed, definitely don’t text someone. Just don’t. This “he didn’t say anything so it makes him look guilty” crap is bass akward.
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This may well be the case but it's simply not the way things are

Even the ex-President said "if you're not guilty why take the 5th?"

It's a very bad look and leads to speculation. If I'm him and a drunk comes into my house and starts s*** I'm making sure everyone I know knows that's what happened.
 
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LadyVolette said:
My husband always told me if you let them see the gun you’d better use it, and pull their a$$ in the house if you have to 😂
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No, you're supposed to drag them in and out of the house several times ultimately leaving them outside..... you say you shot them inside but drug them out so they didn't ruin the carpet. ;)
 
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