Jaylen McCollough arrested

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titansvolsfaninga said:
I try my best to stay out of the judicial system. Never have faith in a broken system. You see innocent people put away, and guilty people set free. Through it all, you've got to pay money.
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I have some experience, unfortunately. The first form I had to fill out was my income information. Weekly, monthly, annual pay, and disclosure of any other sources of income reported or not. They dug in my pocket accordingly.
 
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You know how long we've had now to think through the right thing to do, and the best way to play it, on JM's behalf? Right around 40 hours. Two thousand four hundred minutes. 2,400. Minutes. Each one of them full of 60 big ole seconds.

Know how long McCollough had between the shock of the invasion and the end of the incident? Probably around 5 to 15 seconds.

From start to finish, invasion to falling down the stairs, lasted probably about as long as it took you to read this post to this point. If you're a slow reader, as long as it took to read that last sentence.

And from his living room couch to the place where the altercation took place was supposedly just 30 feet apart. Not technically in his living room, no, but so darn close to it that a defense attorney might successfully argue that small foyer is practically an extension of his private space, communally shared with a couple of neighbors.

I don't think there's a jury in America that would find McCollough guilty for defending himself, his home, and his girlfriend over that short a time and distance.

break/break

There's a ton we don't know. We're blindly assuming that the nature of this event is close to as simple as the police blotter report indicates. There could be multiple layers of complexity here that we're just totally unaware of. Questions about who knew whom in advance, what relationships if any existed prior, who was mentally impaired by alcohol or drugs, what witnesses were there, what motivations might have existed other than just wrong place, wrong time...and on and on.

We just don't know.

So let's stop convicting a young man in a public forum, shall we? Instead, assume he's innocent. The way our legal system is designed.

Go Vols!
 
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Perhaps the biggest mystery of all in this so far is: What in the HELL is a Florida Gator fan doing living in Knoxville, Tennessee?!?!?

I mean, yeah, you see one every once in a while in Nashville or Memphis. Poor, misguided souls that they are. But what the hell? Knoxville?

Maybe we need a fumigator. Get it? Fumigator? lol

Go Vols!
 
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If I were representing Jaylen, my argument might go something like…

“Ladies and Gentlemen, Jaylen McCollough didn’t go looking for a fight that day. I submit the fight came to him. The original sin here was committed by the man who was too intoxicated to know which direction he was walking, too intoxicated to know left from right, forward from backward. He claims he entered the apartment where the defendant was at by mistake. A party foul. But how was Mr. McCollough to know that? How could Mr. McCollough be sure of the intoxicated intruder’s real intentions? Put yourself in his position for a moment. An intoxicated stranger barrels into your home without knocking, then claims to be lost and leaves. A lot of things might go through someone’s head in a chaotic, terrifying moment like this. Was the intoxicated intruder really lost? Was he perhaps casing the place to see who was present with the intention of returning later to do harm to one of the occupants? Could he have perhaps intended to return later to burglarize or vandalize the place? I’m not alleging these things Your Honor, but I think it’s fair to put ourselves into the mindset of the defendant in this case. I ask again, how could Mr. McCollough have known for certain the intentions of an intoxicated intruder who burst into the home as he minded his own business, relaxing with friends? Mr. McCollough, in a moment of chaos and fear wrought by the intruder, engaged him outside the home in an attempt to protect himself and his friends by incapacitating him before he could do further harm. Again Your Honor, it is more than fair to assert in this case that the defendant, Mr. McCollough, didn’t go looking for a fight; the fight came to him.”
 
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pimo1 said:
If I remember correctly they sold their phones.. both of them (her and the other girl) at the same time. But at the time this was going on there was all kinds of false information going around.

It's really messed up how things are. How was a man of you get accused by a woman you're toast either way. That being said let's look at reality. Men are no more likely to get rung up on a fasle report charge unless it's cut and dry than a woman. It is just that men are less likely to report things of that nature. As messed up as it all is it is really hard to prove malice in a lot of false report cases because it's so much about state of mind.

Jaylen is lucky this was a drunk dude so this won't get as much press our outrage as he would had his alleged 'victim' been a member of a protected group. AFAIK drunk gator fans don't have a lobby. Unless he was wearing Jhorts in which case our boy is doomed.
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How many sober people are all into the wrong house and then argue about it?
 
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All Vol! said:
If I were representing Jaylen, my argument might go something like…

“Ladies and Gentlemen, Jaylen McCollough didn’t go looking for a fight that day. I submit the fight came to him. The original sin here was committed by the man who was too intoxicated to know which direction he was walking, too intoxicated to know left from right, forward from backward. He claims he entered the apartment where the defendant was at by mistake. A party foul. But how was Mr. McCollough to know that? How could Mr. McCollough be sure of the intoxicated intruder’s real intentions? Put yourself in his position for a moment. An intoxicated stranger barrels into your home without knocking, then claims to be lost and leaves. A lot of things might go through someone’s head in a chaotic, terrifying moment like this. Was the intoxicated intruder really lost? Was he perhaps casing the place to see who was present with the intention of returning later to do harm to one of the occupants? Could he have perhaps intended to return later to burglarize or vandalize the place? I’m not alleging these things Your Honor, but I think it’s fair to put ourselves into the mindset of the defendant in this case. I ask again, how could Mr. McCollough have known for certain the intentions of an intoxicated intruder who burst into the home as he minded his own business, relaxing with friends? Mr. McCollough, in a moment of chaos and fear wrought by the intruder, engaged him outside the home in an attempt to protect himself and his friends by incapacitating him before he could do further harm. Again Your Honor, it is more than fair to assert in this case that the defendant, Mr. McCollough, didn’t go looking for a fight; the fight came to him.”
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If he punched him in his living room this would be a no brainer - the guy would have been arrested for trespassing. Maybe some legal experts can weigh in on how far, if at all, you can pursue a trespasser once they leave your apartment.
 
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Sarms58 said:
If he punched him in his living room this would be a no brainer - the guy would have been arrested for trespassing. Maybe some legal experts can weigh in on how far, if at all, you can pursue a trespasser once they leave your apartment.
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You can’t chase a guy down the hall and then sucker punch him in the back of the head so hard you cause him to fall and nearly break your own hand
 
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I have no idea what actually happened, and neither does anyone else here. The only thing we have to go off of is one person's side of the story (alleged victim) taken down by a second person (police officer) and summarized by a third party (media) and now being argued about by a significantly less than neutral party.

If what has been written is accurate both in the letter and spirit it was written though, then McCollough was in the wrong and has let down his teammates.

Again, I have no knowledge if that's the case. But I do know that making false statements in a police report can be prosecuted. I also can't help but notice that McCollough's reps. haven't disputed the assault allegation.

I really, really, really want us to beat Bama and this Saturday feels like our best chance in years. I also know those odds decrease when we lose starters. But no matter how much I want to win, it doesn't deprive someone of their right to not be assaulted or give someone else the right to commit assault.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
We don’t even know that that’s what actually happened man. I’m not gonna just take the word of a 20 something year old who’s blasted drunk on a Sunday afternoon.
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Report said he was drinking, didn't say he was blasted drunk..........but likely had a good buzz on.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You can’t chase a guy down the hall and then sucker punch him in the back of the head so hard you cause him to fall and nearly break your own hand
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Back of the head? How the heck did the cops miss putting that injury into their report?

If you almost break your hand on the back of the skull there may likely be a pretty decent goose egg forming back there and cops completely failed to notate that injury. That lays questions into the thoroughness of that whole report.

Also, a rear head blow would indicate all the dental damage came from falling face first down the stairs. Interesting...
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol as usual you are clueless about me and where I go. And what I do. I don’t go to ghetto college parties in the Fort but I do have many friends both young and old at UT, at local law enforcement, local politicians, local healthcare and emergency services, and regularly attend alumni and donor events. So yea I have interactions and knowledge of a lot of incidents, sometimes in real time.

It’s funny that facts get people so worked up 😂
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Translation: He has a police radio.
 
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