Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[AM64]

I did 36-20 through 45-29 with my wife. At 46-30 it suddenly became okay? Is that weird?

I'm just wondering if you have extra wives stashed in your extra houses.

 

[82_VOL_83]

So you lefties think a 16 year old can be an adult in some instances but children in others? Typical selective outrage by libs. For the record I think he was a sick perverted person and the world is better off without him but I don’t view the girls who chose to partake as sweet innocent little angels.

Don't come in here with a rational view that can be sniped at by the triple standard left. I wonder what our venerable Speaker would say right now? Was it sex by a sick individual with a willing minor or was it "well, she's old enough to vote in my eyes" so it's ok? If you are going to be considered a minor in a trial, you damn sure shouldn't be able to cast a vote.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Would you consider them victims though?

Who has the power to control and manipulate?

A billionaire or an impressionable 14-16 year old girl?

and as a follow on to my above post.......the parents of the children are the ones most to blame.

 

[1972 Grad]

I'm just wondering if you have extra wives stashed in your extra houses.

I hope not. My wife is in Florida right now.

 

[82_VOL_83]

So do you think it's obscene for liberal educators to seduce kids into fields of study for which there's no market when they leave school with loads of debt?

Yes because by the time they leave school they can legally be seduced into sex for money.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I'd ask you the same question. Mine are now adults and both doing well.

If so, what do you find the most difficult problem in parenting? Our biggest problems almost always somehow involved peer pressure ... the peers who were so sure they knew more than us as parents, and frequently those kids were the sons and daughters of parents who were far more liberal in their beliefs - whether politically or simply parentally more liberal. Who has the power to control and manipulate a teenager? Almost anybody who is not the parent.

As to the question of the best manipulator. The better question is where were the parents and how were they managing their daughter's activities when the billionaire had access to the girls? Do you think the billionaire sent teams of recruiters out to audition kids in school?

Parents are no longer to be respected. This message comes from everywhere now. When you stopped getting your ass spanked was when mom and dad became a joke for a majority of kids.

 

[hjeagle1vol]

Parents are no longer to be respected. This message comes from everywhere now. When you stopped getting your ass spanked was when mom and dad became a joke for a majority of kids.

I stopped being spanked at 13 when I picked pops up, military pressed him over my head, touch his feet to the ceiling and body slammed him in the bean bag lol. Last day he ever tried anything physically.

The accumulated beatings up til then were all well deserved.

 

[ajvol01]

I'd ask you the same question. Mine are now adults and both doing well.

If so, what do you find the most difficult problem in parenting? Our biggest problems almost always somehow involved peer pressure ... the peers who were so sure they knew more than us as parents, and frequently those kids were the sons and daughters of parents who were far more liberal in their beliefs - whether politically or simply parentally more liberal. Who has the power to control and manipulate a teenager? Almost anybody who is not the parent.

As to the question of the best manipulator. The better question is where were the parents and how were they managing their daughter's activities when the billionaire had access to the girls? Do you think the billionaire sent teams of recruiters out to audition kids in school?

My oldest has autism. It’s not easy. Affects his younger brother as well at times. We’re managing it as best we can.

I’m not excusing the girls behavior. I’m saying the billionaire pedophile is a predator who victimized young girls. There are reportedly hundreds of victims.

Based on the bolded you either didn’t watch the video or didn’t pay attention. His lady friend Ghislaine Maxwell profiled and recruited girls. Virginia Giuffre explains at the beginning of the video it was like a pyramid scheme - she and many girls like her were also used to recruit more girls.

Read up on the details and it may change your mind.

 

[ajvol01]

Seems like you and pj don't have any shades of gray on a lot of topics either.

What topics am I so black and white on, in your opinion?

 

[Matt2496]

And a 13 year old can be tried as an adult.

Good god

 

[C-south]

Good god

So you’re for a 13 year being tried as an adult after choosing to commit a certain crime but against them being an adult for choosing to have sex with someone of a certain age?

 

[AM64]

My oldest has autism. It’s not easy. Affects his younger brother as well at times. We’re managing it as best we can.

I’m not excusing the girls behavior. I’m saying the billionaire pedophile is a predator who victimized young girls. There are reportedly hundreds of victims.

Based on the bolded you either didn’t watch the video or didn’t pay attention. His lady friend Ghislaine Maxwell profiled and recruited girls. Virginia Giuffre explains at the beginning of the video it was like a pyramid scheme - she and many girls like her were also used to recruit more girls.

Read up on the details and it may change your mind.

I'm sorry to hear that. Raising children is difficult in the best of times.

Yes he was a predator; he was a guy who worked girls like Madoff worked investors. Predators are generally good at what they do. Of course, they used girls to recruit other girls ... does that make those girls predators, too?

No, it doesn't change my mind. Epstein was wealthy and used his wealth abusively in a very sick way. This girl apparently like others saw benefit in what she was doing; and now that she can claim wrongdoing (when it's easy and everything is virtually proven for her), the benefit now is in crying foul for profit. Like 82-83, I have to wonder where the parents were. Notice no one (especially the girls) seem to hold the parents accountable ... probably because they don't have deep pockets, and the girls certainly don't seem hold themselves accountable.

 

[ajvol01]

I'm sorry to hear that. Raising children is difficult in the best of times.

Yes he was a predator; he was a guy who worked girls like Madoff worked investors. Predators are generally good at what they do. Of course, they used girls to recruit other girls ... does that make those girls predators, too?

No, it doesn't change my mind. Epstein was wealthy and used his wealth abusively in a very sick way. This girl apparently like others saw benefit in what she was doing; and now that she can claim wrongdoing (when it's easy and everything is virtually proven for her), the benefit now is in crying foul for profit. Like 82-83, I have to wonder where the parents were. Notice no one (especially the girls) seem to hold the parents accountable ... probably because they don't have deep pockets, and the girls certainly don't seem hold themselves accountable.

I guess we can agree to disagree.

I don’t agree with what the girls did, but I do believe they would never have been in that position in the first place without an evil man like Epstein and his extraordinary wealth.

The girls were lied to and told they’d get money for giving a massage. After weeks of grooming it then turned into prostitution and later trafficking. I’d guess many of the girls were racked with guilt and shame.

You may change your mind when the truth about Epstein becomes public.

 

[NEO]

I did 36-20 through 45-29 with my wife. At 46-30 it suddenly became okay? Is that weird?

I am going by where a person is mentally at an age, not physically.

Physically, what male doesn’t want to hsve sex with a beautiful 20 year old? If I was single, I probably at 43 would hook up with someone around that age just for carnal reasons.

But to actually be in a relationship I would find quite hard. I wouldn’t honestly value her opinions probably and subconsciously view her as a kid.

Now, maybe your wife was fully matured and brought something to the table well beyond her years normally would. Or maybe you were very immature for 36 and it worked.

Clearly, it worked. And she must be a Saint to have stayed with your perverted ass. just kidding. You seem cool, you dirty dirty old man.

I am just taking in law of averages and it is slightly odd on average.

 

[RockyTop85]

Lol at outrage over 13 year old’s being pimped a partisan, liberal thing...

Not ready to concede that one, myself, and I’m pretty sure that’s not the sick burn you think it is.

 

[Weezer]

Of course, I do ... and for good reason. However, I have a problem with deciding someone is mature enough and worldly enough to do some things like drive (endanger others) at an age when we consider them too immature to make other decisions (endanger themselves). But then as a society, we aren't much on accountability or rationality these days.

The accountability is on the adult who wasn't mature enough to realize you don't screw underage kids.

 

[SamRebel35]

This story may be getting much worse in the coming weeks. Bodies found off the coast of his island? We'll see.

 

[happy-go_vol]

Don't come in here with a rational view that can be sniped at by the triple standard left. I wonder what our venerable Speaker would say right now? Was it sex by a sick individual with a willing minor or was it "well, she's old enough to vote in my eyes" so it's ok? If you are going to be considered a minor in a trial, you damn sure shouldn't be able to cast a vote.

Libs only want under age kids when it fits their agenda. Want an abortion without parent consent? You got it. Wanna vote at 16 (only if its for dems of course)? You got it. What's ironic these same marxist hypocrites would scream about the underage sex at the same time defending her abortion without parent consent.

 

[VolStrom]

I am going by where a person is mentally at an age, not physically.

Physically, what male doesn’t want to hsve sex with a beautiful 20 year old? If I was single, I probably at 43 would hook up with someone around that age just for carnal reasons.

But to actually be in a relationship I would find quite hard. I wouldn’t honestly value her opinions probably and subconsciously view her as a kid.

Now, maybe your wife was fully matured and brought something to the table well beyond her years normally would. Or maybe you were very immature for 36 and it worked.

Clearly, it worked. And she must be a Saint to have stayed with your perverted ass. just kidding. You seem cool, you dirty dirty old man.

I am just taking in law of averages and it is slightly odd on average.

Take things with a grain of salt. Not everything said on here is carved in stone.

 

[Weezer]

and as a follow on to my above post.......the parents of the children are the ones most to blame.

I blame the old guy who couldn't keep his dick in his pants myself. It's against the law. He knowingly broke it. Why the hell would anyone defend that?

 

[Matt2496]

So you’re for a 13 year being tried as an adult after choosing to commit a certain crime but against them being an adult for choosing to have sex with someone of a certain age?

I'm against 13 year olds being tried as adults. I don't know where you came up with accusing me of that.

Also, I don't believe that a 13 year old is old enough to be able to consent to having sex and I'm against them being trafficked with 50+ year old men against their will.

 

[VolStrom]

I blame the old guy who couldn't keep his dick in his pants myself. It's against the law. He knowingly broke it. Why the hell would anyone defend that?

I'm glad he's dead, the bad thing is how many people are going to get off?

 

[82_VOL_83]

I guess we can agree to disagree.

I don’t agree with what the girls did, but I do believe they would never have been in that position in the first place without an evil man like Epstein and his extraordinary wealth.

The girls were lied to and told they’d get money for giving a massage. After weeks of grooming it then turned into prostitution and later trafficking. I’d guess many of the girls were racked with guilt and shame.

You may change your mind when the truth about Epstein becomes public.

The only place we disagree is the last half of your first sentence. I believe that she had a predilection for promiscuity. I don't believe her to be an innocent in this the same way I believe him and his supposed girlfriend to be POSs.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I blame the old guy who couldn't keep his dick in his pants myself. It's against the law. He knowingly broke it. Why the hell would anyone defend that?

I didn't and don't.

 

[Weezer]

This is one ****ed up conversation. Blaming the girls is essentially defending Epstein. The man was a predator, and teenage girls are easily manipulated. He knew what he was doing was wrong.