Jesus' tomb found?

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BBC NEWS | Middle East | Jesus tomb found, says film-maker

Jesus had a son named Judah and was buried alongside Mary Magdalene, according to a new documentary by Hollywood film director James Cameron.
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The Toronto Star has just published a more in-depth article on this subject: http://www.thestar.com/News/article/185534

Personally, I think it's an interesting discovery, but there's simply no way to prove that the remains belong to Jesus and his family.

DNA Tests?

I believe that the quote about DNA testing is a misstatement. According to the Toronto Star article, DNA tests were merely used to determine if any of the bodies were related to each other. It was found that the bodies allegedly belong to Jesus and Mary Magdalene were not related by blood, so the theory is that these two individuals were married. Does that prove that they were the historical Jesus and Mary Magdalene? Not at all. As you said, we have no sample of Jesus' DNA to compare it to.
 
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I'll await more info. but my initial reation is that this is an attempt to cash in on the Davinci Code fans/beleivers. I remember the same kind of crap in the 1990s when The Celestine Prophesy was all the rage and you had all kinds of people coming out of the woodwork claiming that they held the secret to transcending the human level of consciousness, pretty much exaclty like what was described in the book.
 
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It's a copy of a story by the BBC from 1996. I guess Titanic 2 just wasn't going to make it.

In 1996, when the British Broadcasting Corp. aired a short documentary on the same subject, archaeologists challenged the claims. Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the idea fails to hold up by archaeological standards but makes for profitable television.
"They just want to get money for it," Kloner said.
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Archaeologists, scholars dispute Jesus documentary - CNN.com
 
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Good to know that Jesus named his son after the man who betrayed him...
 
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Inside, they found 10 ossuaries and three skulls. Six ossuaries had names etched into them — Jesus son of Joseph, Judah son of Jesus, Maria, Mariamne, Joseph and Matthew — all Jesus family names.
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They found one a few years back which said James son of Joseph and brother of Jesus, which turned out to be a hoax. That's where I'd put my money this time too.
 
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If Jesus rose from the dead, and mary found the tomb empty with an angel standing by to explain and you believe your scripture then a hoax is all it could be.
 
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Considering this was all found in 1980 and it has taken 27 years to say for a second time "hey we've found Jesus", nothing credible comes from this. Knowing that any credible archeologist and researcher has debunked this all this is is a chance for Cameron to get some quick cash and some free press off of controversy. What will happen is that any movie he makes now will get free press from some Christian groups protesting and boycotting his works from now on. He's set on free media for at least a decade.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
The story would seem to imply that the biblical account of the betrayal / crucifixion isn't quite right, no?
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not trying to get off track here but lets remember Peter denied Christ 3 times and he's saint Peter. Judas did betray Christ and is perceived among the most evil of all men...but I wonder if Judas was just playing his part in the will of the Father?
 
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dan4vols said:
not trying to get off track here but lets remember Peter denied Christ 3 times and he's saint Peter. Judas did betray Christ and is perceived among the most evil of all men...but I wonder if Judas was just playing his part in the will of the Father?
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Aren't we all just playing our part in the will of the Father?
 
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True I guess. But I'm attempting to look at it as if Judas' might not be the unholy evil he's thought to be. Perhaps he was a good man overall but had some sinfulness and was used as a tool to bring Christ to the cross...perhaps he's the face of evil some portray him.
 
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dan4vols said:
True I guess. But I'm attempting to look at it as if Judas' might not be the unholy evil he's thought to be. Perhaps he was a good man overall but had some sinfulness and was used as a tool to bring Christ to the cross...perhaps he's the face of evil some portray him.
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I'm no scholar, but Jesus made it very clear that Judas has some long term problems coming.
 
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isn't it weird christianity is always being questioned and the media tries to downplay Christ but you never near that much about other religions being questioned like christianity. I mean when was the last time you heard cnn, fox etc talk about discrediting islam scientology buddism?
 
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Scientology and Buddhism are hardly "religions." They are simply philosophies for living. I don't see any conflict in a Buddhist also being a Christian.

Islam, in my opinion, has been thoroughly attacked by and through the media.
 
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therealUT said:
Scientology and Buddhism are hardly "religions." They are simply philosophies for living. I don't see any conflict in a Buddhist also being a Christian.
Islam, in my opinion, has been thoroughly attacked by and through the media.
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I will respectfully disagree. If one is a christian, as I am, then anything that takes the focus off Christ is idolatry (and no I don't mean sports etc.) If one follows the principles Christ laid out there is no need to search for other philosophies. That is a direct conflict.
 
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JZVOL said:
I will respectfully disagree. If one is a christian, as I am, then anything that takes the focus off Christ is idolatry (and no I don't mean sports etc.) If one follows the principles Christ laid out there is no need to search for other philosophies. That is a direct conflict.
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I am not even going to attempt to touch that...
 
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JZVOL said:
isn't it weird christianity is always being questioned and the media tries to downplay Christ but you never near that much about other religions being questioned like christianity. I mean when was the last time you heard cnn, fox etc talk about discrediting islam scientology buddism?
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Where have you been since 9/11???
 
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you obviously hear a lot about terrorism but when was the last time the authenticity of islam and muhammed was questioned by cnn msnbc fox and so on like Jesus and christianity? I haven't heard of many hollywood film makers making films questioning islam or muhammed.
 
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JZVOL said:
isn't it weird christianity is always being questioned and the media tries to downplay Christ but you never near that much about other religions being questioned like christianity. I mean when was the last time you heard cnn, fox etc talk about discrediting islam scientology buddism?
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:good!:
 
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When was the last time the authenticity of Christianity was questioned by CNN, MSNBC, FNC, etc.?

Reporting and making commentaries about "Jesus Freaks" is not questioning the authenticity of Christianity.
 
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my thing is how us as americans will bend over backwards to support the minority religion but shut down anything of christian value. I remember the year after I graduated I went to the graduation to see some old friends. They told me the class president was going to quote a bible verse in his speech but apparently the one..yes i said one...hindu guy that was in that class through a hissy fit and they did not allow him to quote the bible...or at the same school (remember this is in the "bible belt") a student was islamic and his religion required him to wear a towel or whatever it is on his head..which went again the school dress code..well to make a long story short they allowed him to wear it on his head. Something tells me they would not have allowed someone else to....Ok guys, I am off my soap box now...back to the orignal subject :eek:hmy:
 
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So, you are upset because a religious quote was taken out of a speech to be given by a representative of a government institution?

You are also upset because someone was allowed to practice their faith, without interfering with any other faiths?
 
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