Jimmy Carter Appreciation Thread

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OrangeTsar said:
Jimmy Carter was indeed a naval officer who appears to have served honorably. And he did it in one of the most challenging positions in the entire service.
Jimmy Carter was also a clear antisemite that totally cozied up to the terrorists of Hamas. He took every opportunity available after he left office to undercut Israel and provide aid and comfort to Israel‘s enemies who were attempting to eradicate Jews in the Middle East.
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You are so FOS with that. You should think about what you read instead of just parroting it. Remember that Camp David was to benefit Israel as well as the Palestinians.
 
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EasternVol said:
You are so FOS with that. You should think about what you read instead of just parroting it. Remember that Camp David was to benefit Israel as well as the Palestinians.
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Yet Carter in 1980 had the lowest percentage of Jewish votes of any modern Democrat 🤔
 
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Although there was much good and decent in Carter, there is one aspect of his legacy that is hardly praiseworthy. Until Carter’s 1980 reelection drive, no postwar president had used race to divide the electorate as an explicit part of their campaign strategy.


In late August 1980, Carter’s Cabinet and campaign began launching a series of attacks characterizing Ronald Reagan as a racist. They began when Patricia Roberts Harris, Carter’s secretary of health and human services, delivered a hard-hitting speech saying that if Reagan became president, he would “divide black and white, rich and poor, Christian and Jew.” Harris capped off her polarizing diatribe by saying that whenever she heard Reagan speak, she “sees the specter of white sheets.” It was a clear allusion to the Ku Klux Klan.

This was just the start, however.

Harris’s attack was soon echoed by Andrew Young, formerly Carter’s ambassador to the United Nations, who also attempted to link Reagan to the KKK. To reinforce the attacks, the Carter/Mondale Reelection Committee placed ads in black media charging that Reagan wanted to block progress for black people. An ad in the Washington Afro-American newspaper bore a banner headline proclaiming that “Jimmy Carter named 37 Black Judges” and “Cracked down on job bias.” The tagline read, “That’s why the Republicans are out to beat him.”


The ad copy expanded on the theme that Republicans were anti-black. It excoriated former President Richard Nixon for “coddling the bigots and exploiters” before extolling Carter’s record of creating job programs and federal contracts for minority-owned firms. The ad then singled out Reagan and John Anderson, a centrist Republican who was running for president as an independent. “That’s the record,” it said, “the Reagan and Anderson Republicans want us to reject.” The Carter team’s messaging was clear: Reagan was the embodiment of the Ku Klux Klan and antisemitic. A vote for Reagan was a vote to block black empowerment and roll back civil rights.

In one instance, the campaign’s strategy was to arouse racial animosity instead of opposing it. During his 1970 race for the Georgia governorship, Carter’s team passed out leaflets at a Ku Klux Klan rally showing his rival standing next to a black athlete at a postgame celebration. The leaflet was widely distributed in parts of the state with a pro-segregation history and intended to suppress white votes for his opponent, incumbent Gov. Carl Sanders.


www.washingtonexaminer.com

When Jimmy Carter proved he was no saint - Washington Examiner

Jimmy Carter's use of race-baiting attacks on Ronald Reagan during the 1980 election is a stain on his legacy.
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EasternVol said:
The author doesn't like Carter treating hamas as a 'legitimate politcal actor'. I don't see him condemning Netanyahu and Israel for doing the same.
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Huh? Israel is a civilized nation; the only democracy in the region, an ally of the United States, tolerant of gays, and a multi ethnic state that is home to both Jews and Arabs.
Hamas is a recognized terrorist organization.
They are nowhere NEAR equivalent
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Huh? Israel is a civilized nation; the only democracy in the region, an ally of the United States, tolerant of gays, and a multi ethnic state that is home to both Jews and Arabs.
Hamas is a recognized terrorist organization.
They are nowhere NEAR equivalent
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I'm sure you know very well that there's a difference in what was cited and what you implied was cited.
 
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This is pretty awful if accurate

Without telling the Clinton administration, however, Carter flew to North Korea with a CNN film crew and proceeded to negotiate the framework of an agreement. He then informed the Clinton team after the fact, with little warning, that he was about to go on CNN to announce the deal. This infuriated the Clinton administration, and according to Brinkley’s account, one cabinet member called the former president a “treasonous prick.” To make matters worse, Carter then accepted a dinner invitation from Kim, at which point Carter claimed on camera that the U.S. had stopped pursuing sanctions at the U.N., which was untrue. Nevertheless, once Carter went on television to announce all this, Clinton felt completely boxed in, and he was forced to accept the deal and abandon sanction efforts.
 
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volfanhill said:
This is pretty awful


Without telling the Clinton administration, however, Carter flew to North Korea with a CNN film crew and proceeded to negotiate the framework of an agreement. He then informed the Clinton team after the fact, with little warning, that he was about to go on CNN to announce the deal. This infuriated the Clinton administration, and according to Brinkley’s account, one cabinet member called the former president a “treasonous prick.” To make matters worse, Carter then accepted a dinner invitation from Kim, at which point Carter claimed on camera that the U.S. had stopped pursuing sanctions at the U.N., which was untrue. Nevertheless, once Carter went on television to announce all this, Clinton felt completely boxed in, and he was forced to accept the deal and abandon sanction efforts.
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dadgum..I posted that exact thing earlier at 4:36..exactly and without the link..
I deleted it as I dont want to disparage him.
 
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volfanhill said:
This is pretty awful if accurate

Without telling the Clinton administration, however, Carter flew to North Korea with a CNN film crew and proceeded to negotiate the framework of an agreement. He then informed the Clinton team after the fact, with little warning, that he was about to go on CNN to announce the deal. This infuriated the Clinton administration, and according to Brinkley’s account, one cabinet member called the former president a “treasonous prick.” To make matters worse, Carter then accepted a dinner invitation from Kim, at which point Carter claimed on camera that the U.S. had stopped pursuing sanctions at the U.N., which was untrue. Nevertheless, once Carter went on television to announce all this, Clinton felt completely boxed in, and he was forced to accept the deal and abandon sanction efforts.
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Yeah, Carter was notorious for doing his own personal „diplomacy“ even though he was no longer in office. And he did it with absolutely no coordination with whatever administration was in power.
I have heard it said that he was very arrogant and never did really accept that he had been rejected by the American people.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yeah, Carter was notorious for doing his own personal „diplomacy“ even though he was no longer in office. And he did it with absolutely no coordination with whatever administration was in power.
I have heard it said that he was very arrogant and never did really accept that he had been rejected by the American people.
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Do you believe he was arrogant?
 
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