Jimmy Clausen

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I don't have a problem with either of the Clausens, but Rick wasn't as good as Casey. Rick did what was asked, and for the most part, despite his physical limitations performed admirably under adverse conditions.

And as for Casey, and i've said this before, he did more with less than any qb we've had since before Andy Kelly. and the kid was tough as a nail, period.

the game against ARK, and the 5 OT game against Bama....the Michigan bowl game....just a few of the fonder memories of ol Casey. You take away that awful game against UF and he really did have a pretty darn good career here. Sadly, he gets remembered for that more than the good things he did here.

And as for Jimmy, i have a sneaking suspicion all the hype might be true. If he doesn't come here, i just hope he doesn't go to another SEC East school...that's all. heard he really likes Spurrier's system, ugh.

ND does have two guys waiting in the wings, and Brady is a Senior this season. USC is loaded also, but i'm sure he could compete at either one.

we'll see.....but lay off the clausens...all they ever did was play for the orange.
 
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Casey may have been better but Rick connected better with players and seemed to play with more heart and emotion. Thought both did well but not up to their full potential. Part of that may have been expecting more and getting less. Kind of like my dates in high school.
 
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(West Columbia Gamecock @ Mar 22 said:
But I bet you won't turn down another Colquitt. Those jokers can flat kick. And I think they bring out their best against the Cocks. When a punter gets a gameball (2003 SC @ UT), that's saying something. Last year, Dusty kicked us inside the 5 so many times last year, that ref had to sacrifice his body to keep him from doing it again.
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First off, you might remember Dusty had a pretty mediocre senior year, although his junior year was quite outstanding. Last year, Britton was straight terrible. From what I'm hearing about spring practice, he's still not doing too well. I'm not sure what you mean by "last year", but the last two years were not all that special from a punting perspective. As for

Britton, the kid's been in all kinds of trouble since he got here. He seems like an arrogant kid who thinks he is automatically the man, because his brother had his own "Colquitt for Heisman" T-shirts. Perhaps if he dedicated himself a little more to learning his position he wouldn't misread signals and attempt a fake-punt inside his own 30. He might also learn to shank less. I'd love it if one of these kicker/punter guys we signed in this latest class took over as our new punter. Britton needs a reality check to spark a serious work ethic. I think sitting on the bench might do the trick.

I don't think you'd see similar behavior if Jimmy came here. Rick would keep him in line and make sure he didn't embarass his family. I for one, hope we sign him.
 
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(kptvol @ Mar 22 said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "last year"
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He's referring to the SC game last year where Colquitt pinned SC inside the 5 about 4 times in the 2nd half, and when he finally did kick one in the endzone we had a gunner almost decapitate the official trying to catch the punt.

...and if I remember correctly, Dustin Colquitt spent his senior year battling an injury.
 
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(OrangeUAVol? @ Mar 22 said:
You can't complain about anyone lacking big wins, then praise Peyton. Before I get attacked, I'm not complaining about Peyton being a Vol, he's obviously an outstanding QB... that still can't win the big ones.
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How about the following for Mr Manning:
1994 Gator Bowl UT 45 Virginia Tech 23 Season record 8W4L (Manning 1ST start game 4)
1995 Citrus Bowl UT 20 Ohio State 14 Season record 11W1L
1996 Citrus Bowl UT 48 Northwestern 28 Season record 10W2L
1997 SEC C'ship game UT 30 Auburn 29 Season record 11W2L (PM knee injury in BCS Bowl loss)

As Volunteer has stated, show your FACTS before making a statement such as your inference that Peyton Manning never won anything. :banghead:
 
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Any bigger loss than the SEC championship to LSU? Who was the qb of that team?
 
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I understand the negativity concerning the Clausens.That said, if Jimmy Clausen would like to be a Vol, he should get a fair shake as other Qb's we recruit. I would make sure he was serious about being a Vol and not just blowing smoke. I certainly wouldn't roll out the red carpet because I don't think he's really serious about attending UT. If Casey won against LSU, we would have been in another N/C game probably or if the SEC emulates the Big 10, does and not have a league playoff, the LSU game would have been a forgone conclusion.
 
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This was supposed to be a thread on rumors and info about Jimmy. Wow, what a dark turn this one took.
 
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Sharing is good. I actually like to read all this stuff and varying opinions. Just think we started at point A and ended up at point C. But then again, so do most of the threads.
 
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(hohenfelsvol @ Mar 22 said:
Casey may have been better but Rick connected better with players and seemed to play with more heart and emotion. Thought both did well but not up to their full potential. Part of that may have been expecting more and getting less. Kind of like my dates in high school.
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How the heck can you say Rick did well? Rick was average at best. Absent the LSU win his performance showed why LSU sent him packing.
 
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Rick also had a good Cotton Bowl against Texas A & M, but I agree with you. I think Rick is a good guy to have around, and would have been a great backup, but in most years he would have never seen the field as a starter in the SEC.
 
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Yes Rick played well against A&M who was highly overrated and outmatched across the board.

But I agree with your basic point
 
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(OrangeUAVol? @ Mar 22 said:
Is Brady Quinn a JR or SR? If Jimmy wants immediade playing time and Quinn's only a JR then maybe I don't put my money on ND... but I still wouldn't put it on us. I would GLADLY take him if he wants come here though.
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this will be Quinn's senior year, no returning starter stands in the way for Jimmy Clausen. BTW here is his myspace profile http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendID=10879501. You know its really his because his friends comment on it.
 
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(crimedawg12 @ Mar 23 said:
Any bigger loss than the SEC championship to LSU? Who was the qb of that team?
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Well I think that Casey was as good a qb as just about any that we had. His numbers prove that. And if you remember correctly, Casey didnt loose that game, the D and the coaches lost that game for us. We didnt make adjustments to their back up qb after knocking their starter out. We where dominating until that happened. I think RIck was one hell of a leader, lacked physical ability, but so far all the experience TN has with a Clausen is that they will play and give 110%, regardless of what VOl fans say about them. I hope he does come here.
 
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So, Casey gets the credit for all the wins, which I'm sure others played big roles in?But doesn't figure in when it comes to the loses?
 
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(crimedawg12 @ Mar 23 said:
So, Casey gets the credit for all the wins, which I'm sure others played big roles in?But doesn't figure in when it comes to the loses?
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I personally havent given him credit for one win. I just give him the credit he deserves for being a competitor. I am one of the few on this board who really dont think the qb position is as important as most think. I think if you have a great one, you probably will have more chances to win the game, but if you have a poor one, you coach a different strategy. imo I think the most important aspect of a qb is to lead the offense, which both Clausens did well.
 
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(ddubb76 @ Mar 23 said:
I personally havent given him credit for one win. I just give him the credit he deserves for being a competitor. I am one of the few on this board who really dont think the qb position is as important as most think. I think if you have a great one, you probably will have more chances to win the game, but if you have a poor one, you coach a different strategy. imo I think the most important aspect of a qb is to lead the offense, which both Clausens did well.
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I actually agree, just need a steady player, Tee Martin comes to mind. When I made my initial comment about the Clausens it was more toward attitude than performance.
 
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(mattvols @ Mar 23 said:
that worked great this year not having a good QB
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coaching sucked, should have tried a different strategy.
receivers sucked, caught up in their own hype
backs sucked - way overrated, Riggs performed better off the bench when he had to compete for the job. Foster needs a little more experience.
Last few games defense sucked, gave up, tired of offense not pulling their load.


And yes qb sucked, but still could have won games with either of them, just didn't. You can win without a good qb, but the rest of your team can't suck too. If we had Leinart or any other "great qb" with the offensive team we had last year. We would have lost then too.jmo.
 
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