Jimmy Clausen

[ddubb76]

coaching sucked, should have tried a different strategy.
receivers sucked, caught up in their own hype
backs sucked - way overrated, Riggs performed better off the bench when he had to compete for the job. Foster needs a little more experience.
Last few games defense sucked, gave up, tired of offense not pulling their load.
And yes qb sucked, but still could have won games with either of them, just didn't. You can win without a good qb, but the rest of your team can't suck too. If we had Leinart or any other "great qb" with the offensive team we had last year. We would have lost then too.jmo.

Oh, forgot the special teams sucked!!!!

 

[volfan2024]

it's the internet. people want to share their opinions when nobody wants to hear them.

:whistling:

 

[SmokeyVol]

Ungrateful fans blow me away. Both of the Clausen boys played their guts out for UT. Whether or not you thought they did good enough is not reason to say bad things about them. I hope Jimmy does come to UT. If he don't then I wish him well.
And I say thank you Casey and Rick.

I agree 100%


:fool:

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I agree with you VB88, Jimmy should go where he feels it will work out best for him. Maybe that will be UT, maybe not. If he chooses not to go to UT then I hope he stays out of the SEC only because I respect his potential and don't want to see him "blossom" agaisnt the Vols.

 

[Ooltewah Vol]

LOL! I'm sure I mean Jimmy! I realized what I had wrote just a few minutes ago and someone had already caught me! hehe

It's cool we knew

 

[Ooltewah Vol]

Ungrateful fans blow me away. Both of the Clausen boys played their guts out for UT. Whether or not you thought they did good enough is not reason to say bad things about them. I hope Jimmy does come to UT. If he don't then I wish him well.
And I say thank you Casey and Rick.

A MEN

 

[rockydoc]

A MEN

You must sit on the "A-Men" bench at church. :biggrin2:

 

[Vol423]

I predict he winds up at Notre Dame.

 

[therickbol]

This is good news bad news I guess. But, in the latest article on the RB that plays HS ball with Clausen (Tyler) he said he is very interested in UTK. He says he loves the fans, the facilities and Trooper Taylor. He doesn't like that USC has so many RB's on roster. That is helping us. He said that him and Jimmy have talked about going to the same school, but that is was not something that was going to dictate either of their school choices. Then he proceeded to say that if him and Jimmy ended up at the same school it would prob be either USC or Notre Dame. That indicated that "he" doesn't think Jimmy is very interested in UTK. However, its still not any kind of done deal and you never know.

 

[VolBeef88]

Speaking of Notre Dame, 1991 comeback there was a bigger one than LSU.

Thats your opinion. I was at both and can tell you that the two are not even close. We were completely dominated, out numbered and looked like a team that had never played before. The first half of that game was unlike any I have ever seen UT play.

 

[mattvols]

coaching sucked, should have tried a different strategy.
receivers sucked, caught up in their own hype
backs sucked - way overrated, Riggs performed better off the bench when he had to compete for the job. Foster needs a little more experience.
Last few games defense sucked, gave up, tired of offense not pulling their load.
And yes qb sucked, but still could have won games with either of them, just didn't. You can win without a good qb, but the rest of your team can't suck too. If we had Leinart or any other "great qb" with the offensive team we had last year. We would have lost then too.jmo.

isnt the most important aspect of the QB to throw the ball? Name one great football team that didnt have a good QB. Don't say the 1998 team cause T. Martain was a great college QB. The offense totally sucked but everyone agreed that a good QB could have given us the boost we needed. Rick Clausen was terrible almost all year except for that half against LSU. Clausen couldnt get the ball to the recievers until it was way too late. Jim Bob Cooter may be a good leader, do you want him to start?

 

[vader]

isnt the most important aspect of the QB to throw the ball? Name one great football team that didnt have a good QB. Don't say the 1998 team cause T. Martain was a great college QB. The offense totally sucked but everyone agreed that a good QB could have given us the boost we needed. Rick Clausen was terrible almost all year except for that half against LSU. Clausen couldnt get the ball to the recievers until it was way too late. Jim Bob Cooter may be a good leader, do you want him to start?

It is fun to yell "Tennessee loves Cooter"

 

[TBALLVOL]

I don't think Jimmy will be coming to TN. For Jimmy to want to consider TN, Cutcliff will need to have done amazing things with the offense and shown that he can still develop QBs. If that comes to pass then Ainge and/or Crompton should be doing a great job and it would be unlikely that Jimmy would want to sit and wait his turn to run the offense. Unfortunately, I think S.Car. would be in the mix more than TN...but, I wouldn't be too worried. I suspect that Jimmy is good but I don't think he is as good as his hype. I know many think that the superstars follow the superstar QBs where they go but when you put so many of the superstar mentality together, it rarely translates to TEAM EFFORT. I have never seen reality match the Hype in these type situations. I think TN will be fine with or without him if Cutcliff can turn the offense around get TN playing some disciplined ball.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I know many think that the superstars follow the superstar QBs where they go but when you put so many of the superstar mentality together, it rarely translates to TEAM EFFORT. I have never seen reality match the Hype in these type situations.

I think you need to read up on the Miami teams of 1987, 1989, and 1991. Yes, starpower can win championships.

 

[GVF]

Name one great football team that didnt have a good QB.

The 1980 GA Dawgs/National Champs. Had H. Walker. No need for a "Great/Good" QB. I think it might have been Jeff Pyburn or Buck Belue QB'ing.

 

[GAVol]

It was Buck Belue. He wasn't much of a passer, but he was really accurate on handoffs and toss sweeps to Walker.

 

[Vol423]

Don't say the 1998 team cause T. Martain was a great college QB.

Thanks for the laugh! lol: Tee Martin was a great college QB? You're kidding, right?

 

[GAVol]

Martin did just fine as a college QB. He scared me sometimes, but he did just fine.

 

[Vol423]

Martin did just fine as a college QB. He scared me sometimes, but he did just fine.

There's a HUGE difference between being "just fine" and being a great college QB. Did Tee Martin go out and single-handedly lose games for UT? No. Was Tee Martin a great QB that could take over games and carry his team? Absolutely not. Tee Martin was an average college quarterback that played on a team with a dominant running game and a dominant defense, and it still took several lucky breaks for UT to win the national championship that year. Great quarterbacks don't necessarily win every game and teams that win every game don't necessarily have great quarterbacks. Football is a team effort. However, saying that Tee Martin was a great college quarterback is laughable.

 

[GAVol]

Tee Martin was probably not a "great" QB, but he wasn't exactly average either. He probably had about the strongest arm of any Tennessee QB ever.

Whatever he was, he got to hold the trophy and in some people's minds that makes him great.

 

[OWB]

Absolutely not. Tee Martin was an average college quarterback that played on a team with a dominant running game and a dominant defense,

I would have to say that he was a little above average. I agree that we had a great defense and a solid running game, but I remember in the SECCG when Tee Martin bailed us out with 2 great TD passes to the corner of the endzone against Miss State. Just thinking about that game alone makes me think that he was a little better than average.

But like you said, it's a team sport and there were many factors.

 

[OrangeUAVol?]

How about the following for Mr Manning:
1994 Gator Bowl UT 45 Virginia Tech 23 Season record 8W4L (Manning 1ST start game 4)
1995 Citrus Bowl UT 20 Ohio State 14 Season record 11W1L
1996 Citrus Bowl UT 48 Northwestern 28 Season record 10W2L
1997 SEC C'ship game UT 30 Auburn 29 Season record 11W2L (PM knee injury in BCS Bowl loss)

As Volunteer has stated, show your FACTS before making a statement such as your inference that Peyton Manning never won anything. :banghead:

I never said, nor did I infer that Peyton 'never won anything'. I was simply trying to defend a good UT quarterback that was underappreciated by the fans his entire career. You, sir, stated no facts in the post that I was responding to, backing up your inference that Casey never won anything, and I didn't realize my posts were held to higher FACT standards.

So to answer your question of what did either of them ever win - here's a stone cold FACT for you...

Casey Clausen (2000-03) 34-10 .773

Other than Mr. Manning himself, the next closest UT QB to Casey amassed 10 fewer wins. So you can dislike him all you want, but you can't ignore the FACT that he's 2nd in all the UT career record books.

 

[rockydoc]

I never said, nor did I infer that Peyton 'never won anything'. I was simply trying to defend a good UT quarterback that was underappreciated by the fans his entire career. You, sir, stated no facts in the post that I was responding to, backing up your inference that Casey never won anything, and I didn't realize my posts were held to higher FACT standards.

So to answer your question of what did either of them ever win - here's a stone cold FACT for you...

Casey Clausen (2000-03) 34-10 .773

Other than Mr. Manning himself, the next closest UT QB to Casey amassed 10 fewer wins. So you can dislike him all you want, but you can't ignore the FACT that he's 2nd in all the UT career record books.

OUA, look at the talent on the CC teams (the Jason Whittens,Johh Hendersons. Haynesworth, Donte Stallworth. on and on). What did CC ever win other than that one bowl game against Michigan? He played for 4 years as a starter. I would almost be willing to bet that UT sent more players to the pros that played during CC's tenure than any other time.

I know a lot of people think he was great but the pros certainly didn't (not drafted). IMO he was a LOSER who always had an excuse for the big loses!! :stinker2:

 

[hatvol96]

I think you need to read up on the Miami teams of 1987, 1989, and 1991. Yes, starpower can win championships.

The 2001 Miami team had even more star power.

 

[hatvol96]

It was Buck Belue. He wasn't much of a passer, but he was really accurate on handoffs and toss sweeps to Walker.

Yeah, but if he doesn't scramble and hit Lindsay Scott against Florida, Georgia wouldn't have the trophy.