Jimmy Dykes, "CCM One of Best Coaches in Game"

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Shaun1985 said:
I don't agree at all. Love the Vols and have supported Martin for the most part but he just kept tweaking the lineup and found something that worked. He didn't strike oil or anything lol. Anyways, I'm all in for Martin and hope he establishes himself as one of the best in the business.
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"kept tweaking" ?

How many lineup changes did he make that weren't injury related?
 
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Don't really see how you can fault him for the bad losses early in the season last year considering the circumstances. The MTSU loss was absolutely meaningless though and I don't understand why people continue to act like it matters/mattered.

Ole Miss in the SEC tourney was the true disappointment.
 
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Makes me realize I should've never left coaching because the changes needed were obvious and glaring to me. Begged for a 4-1 since preseason. Begged for high picks and spot ups since preseason.
It doesn't seem so crazy to me to make changes. It's basketball and the psyche of your players is always changing, so you better have backup plans.
 
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Hope CM can make it but right now he is no where near one of the best. Make the tournament and win up to at least the final 8 then let's evaluate his performance. But I do hope he can do it.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
Pearl lost to Oakland & Charleston. Jim Boheim lost to Cleavland State. Roy Williams lost to Charleston. It's basketball. Every team has letdown games. You can look at any coach and point to embarrassing loses during their tenure. If you have those kinds of bad losses in football, it's something that should be examined. With basketball, though, it's a much different story. Sometimes it just happens. If it becomes a problem, then you examine it.

I love to hear the comments from Jimmy Dykes. He's a respected name in the business. I'm so glad we have CCM. I have never wavered.
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I agree 100%. Good write!
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Makes me realize I should've never left coaching because the changes needed were obvious and glaring to me. Begged for a 4-1 since preseason. Begged for high picks and spot ups since preseason.
It doesn't seem so crazy to me to make changes. It's basketball and the psyche of your players is always changing, so you better have backup plans.
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You know I respect your posts tremendously, but are you saying that if you stayed in coaching you'd be the HC at a major D1 university?
 
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Volhoops said:
Hope CM can make it but right now he is no where near one of the best. Make the tournament and win up to at least the final 8 then let's evaluate his performance. But I do hope he can do it.
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You want him to do that all this year?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Martin is making adjustments and that's a great sign. Many were declaring him too stubborn without giving him any chance. We have seen him go zone, employ zone full court presses, go with a 4 guard lineup, pick up the tempo...you're seeing things that many thought we'd never seen, and adjusting is something great coaches do.
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This.
I get so excited when we show something new in games. Being versatile can always help, especially in the tournament playing teams with different styles
 
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Rudy123 said:
I say that he is improving but not that great......

Have y'all forgotten last seasons Austin Peay game? What about the M.T.S.U. game? How about the College of Charleston game????

We lost all three of those games and shouldn't have.... We were out played....
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Yeah! And Duke lost to Lehigh! Fire coach K he sucks!!!
 
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I like Martin but how exactly is he "one of the best coaches in the game"? Has he won anything? What's the farthest a CM team has gotten in the NCAA? I think he's a good coach--but he hasn't come close to doing as well here as Pearl did, for starters.
 
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calban said:
I'd add best, young developing to the description.
Has 4 games to prove he's learned how to win big games when he has to.
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^^This.

People acting like he should know as much as Bob Knight or Coak K are just ignorant. CCM is a straight out really good coach and the more he learns and grows as a coach the better he will become. IMO
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
"kept tweaking" ?

How many lineup changes did he make that weren't injury related?
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Not many and that's the point. I don't see what he would have done that any other coach wouldn't have. I love the intensity and attitude he brings but I'm still waiting to see something in March before saying he's an elite coach.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Not many and that's the point. I don't see what he would have done that any other coach wouldn't have. I love the intensity and attitude he brings but I'm still waiting to see something in March before saying he's an elite coach.
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I gotcha, misunderstood your post.
 
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miggy4vols said:
I don't know if it is fair to call him one of the best in the business right now. He still has a lot to prove as a HC. That being said, I believe his ceiling is very high. Hopefully he can guide us to a victory over the Gators tonight. I'm very glad he is our coach.
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My thoughts times 100.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
No. Sarcasm. Just stating that CM is being called one of the best for making basic decisions that I suggested a couple of months ago.
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I'm so mean because McBee is one of those guys that I guess I love to hate on. He can score 100 points one game and mess up on a simple pick and roll or something and I'm ready to throw him off the team. :ermm:
 
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Spartacavolus said:
No. Sarcasm. Just stating that CM is being called one of the best for making basic decisions that I suggested a couple of months ago.
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Gotcha. Yea I don't really get the praise with reasoning given, but then again I'm not a big dykes fan. If he pointed to his willingness to adapt and seemingly get his team to peak at the right time that'd have made more sense IMO.
 
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armchair said:
at some of the nation's best programs--coaches who have won titles. Just don't.
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I don't think anyone is comparing the coaches or saying that CCM is in the same class of those coaches. Merely, they're saying that these are some of the very best coaches in the country, and they have bad losses on their resume. So, it naturally follows that a coach that is a tier below the best coaches will have a few of those types of losses, too.
 
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ThunderVol11 said:
I don't think anyone is comparing the coaches or saying that CCM is in the same class of those coaches. Merely, they're saying that these are some of the very best coaches in the country, and they have bad losses on their resume. So, it naturally follows that a coach that is a tier below the best coaches will have a few of those types of losses, too.
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And lets face it, with lesser talent. Hard to grade CCM on talent just yet though. But let be honest, not many kids have ever beaten the doors down to come to TN for basketball. And we should have 2 of the best in the country(coming out of high school) since CCM has been here.
 
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I think the jury is still out on Martin. I'm going to wait until the end of next season to judge him. You can already see tendencies and things before then obviously, but I'm giving him until the end of next year. He has made changes he needed to this year. He has also had to deal with injuries to key players. All of that has to be taken into consideration.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
I think the jury is still out on Martin. I'm going to wait until the end of next season to judge him. You can already see tendencies and things before then obviously, but I'm giving him until the end of next year. He has made changes he needed to this year. He has also had to deal with injuries to key players. All of that has to be taken into consideration.
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For sure. At the end of the day(for me anyway) he will graded off of post season production. Without us having witnessed any I still believe this.... once his teams do start getting in the dance, I do believe having a lot better defensive minded players will serve him better than Pearl.

Easy Pearl fans. I said in the tournament, and CCM hasnt even gotten there yet.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Martin is making adjustments and that's a great sign. Many were declaring him too stubborn without giving him any chance. We have seen him go zone, employ zone full court presses, go with a 4 guard lineup, pick up the tempo...you're seeing things that many thought we'd never seen, and adjusting is something great coaches do.
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This.

I have been critical of CCM and how our team has played. I am not in any camp that claims he should be fired, that is ridiculous. I think the team is playing much better due to CCM making adjustments AND the actual players taking charge. The fact is this roster is not loaded with offensive talent, outside of Golden, McCrae, and Stokes. If not for some unfortunate losses to Georgetown, Virginia, Alabama, Memphis , and Georgia this season would be much different. We still have a lot of basketball left and could make a push for the dance!
Go Vols!


The addition of Hubbs and Maymon along with everyone else having one more year experience
(CCM included) will give the team a huge boost next year. Should be a good year..
 
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