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Perhaps Ob didn't realize he was making the argument that in fact Obama left it much better than he found it.

If you'll look, Ob specifically referenced the first 6 months as a baseline comparison - paying no attention to the actual inheritance of one of the largest recessions in history versus the potential of a future recession.

This all depends on what the Fed decides to do. If they start raising rates significantly, it'll make 2008 look like a good economy. The economy is essentially being held hostage by the insane amount of circulated money. Plus we have the impending currency crisis also.
 
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This all depends on what the Fed decides to do. If they start raising rates significantly, it'll make 2008 look like a good economy. The economy is essentially being held hostage by the insane amount of circulated money. Plus we have the impending currency crisis also.

2 point increase the housing and auto industry crashes.
 
2 point increase the housing and auto industry crashes.

And everything else is collateral damage. So many companies are taking on insane amounts of debt because the aquisition of money is so cheap for so long because of the stagnant gdp.
 
CLARKSVILLE, Tenn., Aug. 24, 2017 – LG Electronics today broke ground on its new one-million-square-foot home appliance manufacturing facility near Clarksville, Tenn.. The project, in the heart of Montgomery County, is expected to bring at least 600 full-time jobs to the area and will accelerate the delivery of LG’s innovative, premium home appliances to better meet U.S. consumer demand.
http://www.lg.com/us/press-release/...in-tennessee-set-for-completion-in-early-2019
 
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Electric powered. greenNAFTA.globalism Import tax. less American jobs and more taxesSeems expensive.surely we are willing to pay for the good of society, even if we personally don't see a benefit

sounds like a liberals wet dream.
 
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sounds like a liberals wet dream.


In all seriousness, aside from Gorsuch, what has Trump given conservative middle America?

A travel ban from countries that haven't been the source of terrorism?

No repeal and replace of the ACA, just come up with ways to make it more expensive for the lower middle class?

Embarrassed some NFL players and riled up the base over literally nothing?

No wall? In fact, no hint of a wall.

Pushing for a skeezy religious nut, who wants to party like its 1899, to win a Senate seat?

Hoping to sign a tax bill that will increase taxes on large swaths of the middle class so more billionaires can buy bigger yachts, whilst simultaneously increasing the debt by a billion dollars?

Well done, conservatives. Well done.
 
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In all seriousness, aside from Gorsuch, what has Trump given conservative middle America?

A travel ban from countries that haven't been the source of terrorism?

No repeal and replace of the ACA, just come up with ways to make it more expensive for the lower middle class?

Embarrassed some NFL players and riled up the base over literally nothing?

No wall? In fact, no hint of a wall.

Pushing for a skeezy religious nut, who wants to party like its 1899, to win a Senate seat?

Hoping to sign a tax bill that will increase taxes on large swaths of the middle class so more billionaires can buy bigger yachts, whilst simultaneously increasing the debt by a billion dollars?

Well done, conservatives. Well done.

Trump sucks too. you won't get any argument from me.
 
And, if we don't get a wall, it will be because of open-borders Democrats and Republicans.

Instead of legalizing recreational use of drugs, let's continue to spend billions of dollars a year to put non-violent persons behind bars while attracting violent criminals to organize an illicit drug trade here.
Instead of getting rid of entitlement programs, let's continue to give incentives for foreign nationals to come here illegally to use taxpayer-provided services for free.
Then let's build a $20 billion wall and hope no one can get around it.

If we don't build a wall it will be because common sense prevailed.
 
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Instead of legalizing recreational use of drugs, let's continue to spend billions of dollars a year to put non-violent persons behind bars while attracting violent criminals to organize an illicit drug trade here.
Instead of getting rid of entitlement programs, let's continue to give incentives for foreign nationals to come here illegally to use taxpayer-provided services for free.
Then let's build a $20 billion wall and hope no one can get around it.

If we don't build a wall it will be because common sense prevailed.

You make it sound like 20 billion is a huge sum of money lol. If we dont build a wall it will have nothing to do with common sense prevailing. Quite the opposite. It will be because our government is, as its always been, being run by absolute idiots.
 
You make it sound like 20 billion is a huge sum of money lol. If we dont build a wall it will have nothing to do with common sense prevailing. Quite the opposite. It will be because our government is, as its always been, being run by absolute idiots.

And you're demanding we give absolute idiots $20+ billion to build a wall? Sounds like a solid plan.

Let's not worry about fixing the root cause when we can spend more of your money!
 
In all seriousness, aside from Gorsuch, what has Trump given conservative middle America?

A travel ban from countries that haven't been the source of terrorism?

No repeal and replace of the ACA, just come up with ways to make it more expensive for the lower middle class?

Embarrassed some NFL players and riled up the base over literally nothing?

No wall? In fact, no hint of a wall.

Pushing for a skeezy religious nut, who wants to party like its 1899, to win a Senate seat?

Hoping to sign a tax bill that will increase taxes on large swaths of the middle class so more billionaires can buy bigger yachts, whilst simultaneously increasing the debt by a billion dollars?

Well done, conservatives. Well done.

You forgot to add thousands of kids and old people dying. Your liberal scare tactics and lies have been proven false over and over again.
 
And you're demanding we give absolute idiots $20+ billion to build a wall? Sounds like a solid plan.

Let's not worry about fixing the root cause when we can spend more of your money!

what is the root cause? Our country is better than Mexico/wherever they are coming from?
 
The US economy added 228,000 nonfarm payrolls in November, more than economists had forecast, a report on Friday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed.

The unemployment rate remained near a 17-year low of 4.1%.
 
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They have incentive to come here due to demand for illegal drugs and/or access to taxpayer-funded services.

so they are just here to take advantage of our system or they drug runners?

wow. and I thought the conservatives were supposed to be the racist ones.
 
so they are just here to take advantage of our system or they drug runners?

wow. and I thought the conservatives were supposed to be the racist ones.

And I thought liberals were supposed to be the ones who played the racist card to "win" an argument.

What's the issue with illegal immigration if it's not related to one of those things?
 
that they are here illegally. plenty of people do it the right way.

So nothing then? We're building a $20+ billion wall to keep people from breaking an arbitrary law?

I'm asking why is there a law restricting immigration if it isn't related to one of those issues.
 
So nothing then? We're building a $20+ billion wall to keep people from breaking an arbitrary law?

I'm asking why is there a law restricting immigration if it isn't related to one of those issues.

its always been a matter of control. Of taxation and rights. If you aren't documented no guarantee of either.

also its not arbitrary. Wars have been fought over control of the borders, empires wiped out by migrations.

Saying it is harmless is just as short sited as saying it is the end of this country.
 
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