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Vol2424 said:
On top of that , when you can tell a team everything your opponent will do and you play Gannon in practice....Monte's job got easier. I'm not taking credit away from anyone. But you can't argue the fact that Gruden did what Dungy and Monte couldn't. Who knew the Raiders better than Gruden? That defense was great , but some credit has to go to the man that coached them the year before. He damn near knew everything they were going to do in that game.
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The raiders knew what gruden was doing, not the opposite. Their defense knew chuckys offense.
 
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GmanTN said:
Jon Gruden at TB
2002 12-4 .750
2003 7-9 .438
2004 5-11 .312
2005 11-5 .688
2006 4-12 .250
2007 9-7 .563
2008 9-7 .563

I see a lot of inconsistency in his coaching record, if he was so great why could he never return to the SB like a lot of the great NFL coaches have.

Please Back Away From Jon Gruden: A Guide To Non-Home Run Coaching Hires - Arkansas Expats

Don
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:snoring: Looks like an above average NFL coach. Surprised he he would want the UT job, but by jingos, I'll take him.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
Dreamers will always keep dreaming.

Gruden will never coach at Tennessee.

VFL...GBO!!!
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Your sign-off after every post just became completely meaningless to me. You say "VFL...GBO!!!" after every single post, which other than being redundant to this point should mean that you want what's best for UT but it seems you take satisfaction in saying that Gruden would never coach here.
 
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GmanTN said:
Jon Gruden at TB
2002 12-4 .750
2003 7-9 .438
2004 5-11 .312
2005 11-5 .688
2006 4-12 .250
2007 9-7 .563
2008 9-7 .563

I see a lot of inconsistency in his coaching record, if he was so great why could he never return to the SB like a lot of the great NFL coaches have.

Please Back Away From Jon Gruden: A Guide To Non-Home Run Coaching Hires - Arkansas Expats

Don
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The Ark article has this nice little bit...

THE UP-AND-COMERS

Sonny Dykes

Current gig: Head coach, Louisiana Tech

Specialty: Air raid offense

Pros: A Mike Leach disciple, Dykes has strong ties to the state of Texas which could prove fruitful in recruiting. He’s the son of former Texas Tech coach Spike Dykes and served as a Red Raiders assistant under Leach for seven years. His Louisiana Tech team won the WAC last season and pushed TCU to the brink in the Poinsettia Bowl. This season, the Bulldogs are undefeated, ranked third in the country with 54.7 points per game and are coming off a 52-24 win over Illinois on the road. And in case the "air raid" offense turns you off, the Bulldogs are averaging 232 rushing yards per game.

Cons: Only in his third year as a head coach and has never helmed a program in a BCS conference. Considering his long-standing ties to Texas Tech, one has to wonder if his heart remains in Lubbock.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
The Ark article has this nice little bit...

THE UP-AND-COMERS

Sonny Dykes

Current gig: Head coach, Louisiana Tech

Specialty: Air raid offense

Pros: A Mike Leach disciple, Dykes has strong ties to the state of Texas which could prove fruitful in recruiting. He’s the son of former Texas Tech coach Spike Dykes and served as a Red Raiders assistant under Leach for seven years. His Louisiana Tech team won the WAC last season and pushed TCU to the brink in the Poinsettia Bowl. This season, the Bulldogs are undefeated, ranked third in the country with 54.7 points per game and are coming off a 52-24 win over Illinois on the road. And in case the "air raid" offense turns you off, the Bulldogs are averaging 232 rushing yards per game.

Cons: Only in his third year as a head coach and has never helmed a program in a BCS conference. Considering his long-standing ties to Texas Tech, one has to wonder if his heart remains in Lubbock.
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In before "with Dooley's recruits" nonsense.
 
#3,836
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Gruden is our destiny. I'm so ready to start our new Glory Days. Today is the beginning.

Opportunity is now(finally)here.
 
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GmanTN said:
Jon Gruden at TB
2002 12-4 .750
2003 7-9 .438
2004 5-11 .312
2005 11-5 .688
2006 4-12 .250
2007 9-7 .563
2008 9-7 .563

I see a lot of inconsistency in his coaching record, if he was so great why could he never return to the SB like a lot of the great NFL coaches have.

Please Back Away From Jon Gruden: A Guide To Non-Home Run Coaching Hires - Arkansas Expats

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I agree. Not saying that Gruden wouldn't make a great recruiter or good hire for CFB but he's not Saban in that regard. Guy only made it to a wildcard game and lost both times following the SB. He's just over .500 as a coach at .540 on regular season when counting his time at the Raiders too. Dungey was the one that put the TB team together for him and Dungey went on to more superbowls. Dungey finished .668 on his NFL career, .759 for the colts alone. In contrast Gruden closed .509 with the bucs alone. Even in that regard Dungey bested him with a .540 while at TB.

Again he may have star appeal I just don't know or think that makes him the next Nick Saban. If we keep losing he'll be an upgrade for sure but not one that would could absolutely guarantee we'd win championships.
 
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I'm going to throw this out there. Of the teams who've won BCS titles how many have been popped for or had serious questions surface regarding recruiting?

A less pure fan might say 2 million towards "recruiting" and 3 million towards a competent coach goes farther than 5 million in Gruden's pocket. Not suggesting that or saying it's right I'm just saying between USC, and Cam, and suit scandal, there's some evidence we may be getting beat in more than just coaching.
 
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DD4ME said:
I'm going to throw this out there. Of the teams who've won BCS titles how many have been popped for or had serious questions surface regarding recruiting?

A less pure fan might say 2 million towards "recruiting" and 3 million towards a competent coach goes farther than 5 million in Gruden's pocket. Not suggesting that or saying it's right I'm just saying between USC, and Cam, and suit scandal, there's some evidence we may be getting beat in more than just coaching.
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Gruden fixes both. We already have the largest recruiting budget in the country.
 
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#3,845
Good morning,Grudenites!

How's everyone doin' this fine morning?

Been noticing what night owl's we have, good job to keep this thread going! Wish I could stay up late, need my beauty sleep.:)
 
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Only idiots would think our current player roster is all SEC type players and are ready to compete against the best in the SEC.

Top SEC teams have had top 10 recruiting classes for 10 straight years or longer and you Grudenite idiots think our roster should be able to compete and Win against them.

I wish we did have SEC type players all over our roster already but Fulmer and Kiffen left our roster bare.

Keep dreaming you poor UNrealistic Grudenites because Gruden will NEVER coach at Tennessee.

The ONLY thing a coaching change WILL do at this point is to set BACK our Tennessee program for another 5 years.

Keep dreaming Grudenites.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Gruden fixes both. We already have the largest recruiting budget in the country.
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The money I'm discussing usually isn't counted in the budget. Recruiting and name appeal is the only home run I see with Gruden. He isn't proven at this level and he couldn't win a wild card game after winning it all with Dungy's players.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
Only idiots would think our current player roster is all SEC type players and are ready to compete against the best in the SEC.

Top SEC teams have had top 10 recruiting classes for 10 straight years or longer and you Grudenite idiots think our roster should be able to compete and Win against them.

I wish we did have SEC type players all over our roster already but Fulmer and Kiffen left our roster bare.

Keep dreaming you poor UNrealistic Grudenites because Gruden will NEVER coach at Tennessee.

The ONLY thing a coaching change WILL do at this point is to set BACK our Tennessee program for another 5 years.

Keep dreaming Grudenites.

VFL...GBO!!!
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And there in lies the problem
 
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DD4ME said:
The money I'm discussing usually isn't counted in the budget. Recruiting and name appeal is the only home run I see with Gruden. He isn't proven at this level and he couldn't win a wild card game after winning it all with Dungy's players.
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....while beating the team he assembled. Why do you guys always leave that out?
 
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