Jordan McRae and the NBA draft

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bleedingTNorange said:
You said he was too short, I'm simply saying 6'6" isn't too short for a 3 in the NBA, especially when your wingspan is 7'2"
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Yes it is if you want to go through all the depth charts. 6-6 is a SG in the NBA. McRae is right there on that. McRae will not be a 3 in the NBA regardless of his 7'2 wingspan whatever that is supposed to mean. What is a 'wingspan' exactly? I hold my arms out and a measurement is taken? And what the hell does that prove?
 
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HBCButch said:
Yes it is if you want to go through all the depth charts. 6-6 is a SG in the NBA. McRae is right there on that. McRae will not be a 3 in the NBA regardless of his 7'2 wingspan whatever that is supposed to mean. What is a 'wingspan' exactly? I hold my arms out and a measurement is taken? And what the hell does that prove?
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Wingspan has a lot to do with being able to alter shots and be in range with steals. Playing lanes and so on. Wingspan is very big when it comes to shorter players. Rondo is 6'1 - 6'2 with a 6'8 or 9 wingspan and look at his defense and abilities to get steals.
 
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SJAVol32 said:
Wingspan has a lot to do with being able to alter shots and be in range with steals. Playing lanes and so on. Wingspan is very big when it comes to shorter players. Rondo is 6'1 - 6'2 with a 6'8 or 9 wingspan and look at his defense and abilities to get steals.
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Ok, but if you're 6-6 at SF and you come across...uhhh....many 6-8, 6-9 even 6-10 guys in the NBA at 'SF'. Would'nt common logic tell you their 'wingspan' will probably be bigger? McRae isn't short, he's just right at the 2.

Rondo is a dadgum PG!!!
 
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HBCButch said:
No, he wont. He'll make a great pick in the 2nd though. He's a strong 4 at 6-8 260. If he was 6-9 he'd be perfect right now, theyd be salivating over him. Yes, the NBA is hung up on height but it's only because the NBA is all about height or body types. Always will be. If he came back one more, scored around 20ppg, pulled down 15rpg...he'd be a lotto pick next year just behind the one-and-dones and the next great things out of the Balkans. I could see Stokes as a top 3 pick if he comes back.
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I see your point, but I dont think he will stay! If he does, it will be great for Tennessee fans
 
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SJAVol32 said:
Wingspan has a lot to do with being able to alter shots and be in range with steals. Playing lanes and so on. Wingspan is very big when it comes to shorter players. Rondo is 6'1 - 6'2 with a 6'8 or 9 wingspan and look at his defense and abilities to get steals.
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Yeah but Rondo is playing his natural position, move him to the 2 and his wingspan wouldn't be as much of a factor. Bigger 2's would simply shoot over him and out muscle him. Same thing with putting Jordy at the 3.
 
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#83
Bottom line, the average NBA SF is 6'8 224. If you think Jordy at 6'6 185 can play SF, you are either crazy, blinded by the orange, or don't watch much NBA.
 
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#87
BadJerry20 said:
Martin is a good comparison, decent shot, ok handle, similar build. I don't think people realize the skill set Jamal Crawford has.
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Exactly. We tend to compare our players (in terms of NBA) with many of the shining stars of the league (I remember some Stokes to Malone comparisons in the past). Kevin Martin had the ability to shine in the right organization and did so for years. Outside of that, he's a solid rotation guy that can knock down shots. I see the same for Jordy. It really depends on how an organization wants to use him.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
Yeah but Rondo is playing his natural position, move him to the 2 and his wingspan wouldn't be as much of a factor. Bigger 2's would simply shoot over him and out muscle him. Same thing with putting Jordy at the 3.
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I was just talking about wingspan not about position. I'm saying wingspan helps.
 
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#89
HBCButch said:
Ok, but if you're 6-6 at SF and you come across...uhhh....many 6-8, 6-9 even 6-10 guys in the NBA at 'SF'. Would'nt common logic tell you their 'wingspan' will probably be bigger? McRae isn't short, he's just right at the 2.

Rondo is a dadgum PG!!!
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Just because a player is taller doesn't always mean his wingspan is longer. I'm not saying McRae is a 3. He's a scorer. It's been proven.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I remember a lot of people saying Tobias didn't have a position in the NBA either, he's doing ok.
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Who's saying Jordy doesn't have a position? I only see people saying he can't play SF, and he can't. He has good size to be a SG, especially if he can add 10+ lbs.
 
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jknox33 said:
Exactly. We tend to compare our players (in terms of NBA) with many of the shining stars of the league (I remember some Stokes to Malone comparisons in the past). Kevin Martin had the ability to shine in the right organization and did so for years. Outside of that, he's a solid rotation guy that can knock down shots. I see the same for Jordy. It really depends on how an organization wants to use him.
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I mean I get it, we are fans of theirs but some comparisons get crazy. Kevin Martin has had a solid career, being compared to him isn't a bad thing. I've said Stokes will be a Reggie Evans type guy, just cause I think he will struggle to score against length but could be a really good rebounder. Some posters hated/hate that comparison, but it's not a knock. Just a more realistic comparison than Boozer or (and this one is just crazy) Malone.
 
#93
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BadJerry20 said:
Oh I gotcha. I agree it does, playing at the wrong position would negate that some though.
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Of course. I think he's a 2. It isn't like he's slow. Yes he needs to work on his defense, but let's be honest the 2 position is depleted. SG is probably the weakest position in the NBA at the moment. He'll be fine as long as he's ready to work. Go to a contender with a great coach and develop.
 
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SJAVol32 said:
Of course. I think he's a 2. It isn't like he's slow. Yes he needs to work on his defense, but let's be honest the 2 position is depleted. SG is probably the weakest position in the NBA at the moment. He'll be fine as long as he's ready to work. Go to a contender with a great coach and develop.
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Oh I agree 100%. It's weird how SG has fallen off, and Center has started to get deeper. It's not 90's good, but there are some pretty quality guys now.
 
#95
#95
BadJerry20 said:
Oh I agree 100%. It's weird how SG has fallen off, and Center has started to get deeper. It's not 90's good, but there are some pretty quality guys now.
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And they're all young. And yeah SG has fallen off so much they're all older and not a lot of young guys are coming in.
 
#96
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BadJerry20 said:
Who's saying Jordy doesn't have a position? I only see people saying he can't play SF, and he can't. He has good size to be a SG, especially if he can add 10+ lbs.
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I remember hearing Tobias was too small to play PF, if average SF is 6'8" 225lbs what the average PF?
 
#97
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bleedingTNorange said:
I remember hearing Tobias was too small to play PF, if average SF is 6'8" 225lbs what the average PF?
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Again, who said Jordy doesn't have a position at the next level? We are telling you the perfect position for him, it isn't SF. What does what people said about Tobias have to do with Jordy? Tobias was seen as a tweener, Jordy isn't. Good misdirection attempt I guess.
 
#98
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BadJerry20 said:
Again, who said Jordy doesn't have a position at the next level? We are telling you the perfect position for him, it isn't SF. What does what people said about Tobias have to do with Jordy? Tobias was seen as a tweener, Jordy isn't. Good misdirection attempt I guess.
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My point is people said Tobias wasn't big enough to play PF, he has done so some and been very good at it. Now people are saying McRae flat out isn't big enough to play the 3 at all...that's all I'm saying.
 
#99
#99
bleedingTNorange said:
My point is people said Tobias wasn't big enough to play PF, he has done so some and been very good at it. Now people are saying McRae flat out isn't big enough to play the 3 at all...that's all I'm saying.
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Meh people are stupid, (sorry freak) Tobias had a solid skill set that was going to make him a player in the NBA. Jordy could have a solid NBA career, but his size and skill set screams SG.
 
#100
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SJAVol32 said:
Of course. I think he's a 2. It isn't like he's slow. Yes he needs to work on his defense, but let's be honest the 2 position is depleted. SG is probably the weakest position in the NBA at the moment. He'll be fine as long as he's ready to work. Go to a contender with a great coach and develop.
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Its not his north to south direction that will cause him trouble. It is his lateral quickness that concerns me. An I'm not sure that can be coached. Jmo


Also wanted to add I think he will be drafted and I think he will make a roster. I just want him to have a roster spot for more than a yr or 2
 
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