Josh Dobbs Article

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All the references to Johnny Football need to be put to rest because if all can remember he wasnot a true freshman he redshirted a year. Just like CBJ should consider with Dobbs. Then maybe and that is a big maybe, we can use the reference to "Johnny Football" after he becomes only the second freshman to win the Heisman........WOW thats a big MAYBE!!!
 
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photovol said:
This year may indeed be the year to get Dobbs into the fold as the Vols are not expected to win more that 3-4 games. We have to start building for the future if we expect to compete by 2016-2017. Patience is the order of the day for the Vols.
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3-4 games? 2016-17?

That aint gonna work for me.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
An interesting opinion piece on Dobbs. I'm not sure I agree with his ultimate point, but if he's right then it's probably a sign that we have our guy for the next four years.

Josh Dobbs: Tennessee Volunteers Dark Horse at Quarterback
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Not sure but think the article rehashes an older (two mos) article from elsewhere. While anything is possible, I think CBJ took the other QBs because he needed to do something to help him electrify the Vols faithful, not because he lacked confidence in the existing QBs.

There was doubt about his ability to recruit on the SEC level, the QBs he snared relieved this concern for now among the faithful. It gave cause for some bragging rights for now, though the 2014 NSD hasn't come yet. What he must do now is focus on his big men for the OL and DL for next year, especially the DL. I predict a serious raid on JUCO recruits in these areas. That plus maybe 2-3 more WRs.

I've do doubt Dobbs will be a capable QB but he isn't here now. The need to build bulk to take SEC pounding. The need to build stamina to stay in games and perform well. The need to have experience in facing rabid SEC defenses. No matter how good he is, it's rare for someone facing these challenges to miss spring preps to just jump in and be number 1. Johnny Football didn't face this. He was there from the get go to compete, Dobbs isn't. Nothing against Dobbs, but it is unrealistic to expect him to beat out either JW or NP just by showing up and giving them detention hall slips.
 
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mitzustu said:
The article said Butch was left with a bare cupboard. Not sure I agree.
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The article lies. Dooley left the UT is far better shape than it was when he arrived here. He may not have had us back at full strength roster-wise but it was nothing like the dearth of bodies and talent we had upon his arrival. Look at the OL, the LB corps and even the font DL. The defense under performed not for lack of talent but for lack of good coaching and trying to make a bunch of 4-3 guys into 3-4 guys. If he meant the QBs, he's still lying. Worley was Gatorade player of the year. Peterman was a heralded QB from Florida. The only significance to the bare cupboard is the obvious positions of needs in 2014 with so many players from 2013 leaving. Even then we aren't as bare as the start of the Kiffin and Dooley regimes.
 
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mreed90 said:
I really hope he isn't the starter by that time. If so then I'd say the season will be already going down the tubes. You don't start a freshman a QB unless it is Johnny Football or someone of his talent level. Not even Teblow started as a freshman.
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Even Johnny Football was redshirted
 
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That was kind of a stupid article. Bringing in two QBs doesn't say anything about the prospects of the incumbent QBs, it is a response to the lack of depth behind those two. Dobbs could come in and take the job, though I doubt it, likely one or both of the two incoming will be redshirted and developed for the future but who knows. It will depend on how well Worley and Peterman perform.
 
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Orangesmokey said:
Saying that Dobbs will be the start by the fifth game is a very very bold statement. If that happens that means we have a really special player in Dobbs.

Also, I though Peterman was supposed to a pretty mobil QB. Am I wrong in thinking this?
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Doesn't look like Peterman is making a big move in spring practice. I hope he comes on strong but it is not looking good right now. :salute::salute::salute:
 
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I just didn't like this article at all. It just seems wrong on so many points that it just loses out on everything to me.

if he was a reporter and I was his editor I would have thrown it in the trash and told him to start over.
 
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photovol said:
This year may indeed be the year to get Dobbs into the fold as the Vols are not expected to win more that 3-4 games. We have to start building for the future if we expect to compete by 2016-2017. Patience is the order of the day for the Vols.
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3 or 4 games? My expectations are certainly higher than yours are.
 
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Hard to see Riley Ferguson doing anything here, with the talent we're bringing in and a switch to a spread run offense. He just doesn't fit. Wouldn't be surprised to see him eventually transfer like a mug
 
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Weee'rre Baaccckk said:
Hard to see Riley Ferguson doing anything here, with the talent we're bringing in and a switch to a spread run offense. He just doesn't fit. Wouldn't be surprised to see him eventually transfer like a mug
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How? He is as good with the football as Worley with much better legs.

Dude can run.
 
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I don't know who will win the job--but I'm excited that we're instituting a spread and that we will run the QB some. Our rather static pro-style, with QBs who could not run AT ALL, has put us at a disadvantage for years.
 
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Batman1948 said:
Doesn't look like Peterman is making a big move in spring practice. I hope he comes on strong but it is not looking good right now. :salute::salute::salute:
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Everything I keep reading is Peterman and Worley are neck and neck but if someone had to give the edge it would be to Worley. I have no idea. I honestly don't care who starts at QB as long as the lead the team to some wins.
 
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We already know that Dobbs is the handpicked favorite of Jones, and Worley and redshirt freshman Nathan Peterman have to be cognizant of the fact that Jones brought in two freshmen in his first class. That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement for the two incumbents.



This statement from the article is just stupid. We only had two scholarship qb's on the roster after Bray left. Two! Of course Jones brought in more than one qb. Every other coach in the nation would've done the same. Taking two has absolutely nothing to do with how he felt about JW & NP.

As for Dobbs, if he ends up starting it would be bc he earned it and not bc he was "handpicked." I think we'll see Worley exit the spring as the #1 bc if he doesn't he may consider transferring and we can't afford that. The qb battle in yhe fall will be as wide open as it has been in years and regardless of who wins it I wouldn't be suprised to see any of them play this season. If Worley ends up the guy then great but personally I'd like to see one of the three freshmen take control and lead this team for the next 3-4 years.
 
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Great on point article. Dobbs will start and Dooley did leave us with a bare cupboard. How man top 200 players did Dooley leave? We may be deeper in numbers but we have less talent than DD inherited.
 
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Neyland2nd2none said:
We already know that Dobbs is the handpicked favorite of Jones, and Worley and redshirt freshman Nathan Peterman have to be cognizant of the fact that Jones brought in two freshmen in his first class. That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement for the two incumbents.



This statement from the article is just stupid. We only had two scholarship qb's on the roster after Bray left. Two! Of course Jones brought in more than one qb. Every other coach in the nation would've done the same. Taking two has absolutely nothing to do with how he felt about JW & NP.

As for Dobbs, if he ends up starting it would be bc he earned it and not bc he was "handpicked." I think we'll see Worley exit the spring as the #1 bc if he doesn't he may consider transferring and we can't afford that. The qb battle in yhe fall will be as wide open as it has been in years and regardless of who wins it I wouldn't be suprised to see any of them play this season. If Worley ends up the guy then great but personally I'd like to see one of the three freshmen take control and lead this team for the next 3-4 years.
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I think he meant that Dobbs is the only QB Butch has recruited and gotten to commit. Also I may be wrong, but don't most teams usually keep 3 scholarship QBs instead of four?


I seem to remember everybody thinking that Ferguson would be our QB this cycle and being somewhat surprised when Butch began pursuing Dobbs.


It is worth noting though that Butch recruited and got commits from at least 2 QBs each in each one of his classes at Cincy. He seems to want QBs who can win a competition. Plus when if you use a dual threat QB, then odds are he'll get dinged up and miss a bit of time at some point in the season, so it's always good to have some capable QBs behind him.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I think he meant that Dobbs is the only QB Butch has recruited and gotten to commit. Also I may be wrong, but don't most teams usually keep 3 scholarship QBs instead of four?


I seem to remember everybody thinking that Ferguson would be our QB this cycle and being somewhat surprised when Butch began pursuing Dobbs.


It is worth noting though that Butch recruited and got commits from at least 2 QBs each in each one of his classes at Cincy. He seems to want QBs who can win a competition. Plus when if you use a dual threat QB, then odds are he'll get dinged up and miss a bit of time at some point in the season, so it's always good to have some capable QBs behind him.
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This is a good point that I honestly didn't really think about. I think we all hope that none of the starters ever get hurt but it does happen from time to time. And when you have a QB that runs the ball more than normal there is a greater chance for injury.
 
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k-town_king said:
Great on point article. Dobbs will start and Dooley did leave us with a bare cupboard. How man top 200 players did Dooley leave? We may be deeper in numbers but we have less talent than DD inherited.
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There is simply no truth to this statement. Our offensive and defensive lines were littered with walk-ons and true freshmen in Dooley's first year. I'll take what we have today over that any day of the week.

Our 1-2 punch at RB is better. We have a better overall group of quarterbacks (remember Matt Simms?). Could go on and on...

I think the biggest difference from Dooley's year that we will face is that the SEC is just so much stronger top to bottom than it was, even in 2010. This is a stout conference. So even with better talent, we may not fair all that much better on the field...
 
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k-town_king said:
Great on point article. Dobbs will start and Dooley did leave us with a bare cupboard. How man top 200 players did Dooley leave? We may be deeper in numbers but we have less talent than DD inherited.
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You must not remember when Kiffin was forced to start the Sullins twins or Dooley had to start Joseph Ayres at DT. We have the best OL in the conference this year. Total turnaround.
 
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There are a whole bunch of problems with that article starting with calling the "cupboard" bare when Jones inherits an OL that could place all five starters in the NFL next year plus two DT's plus at least one and possibly two LB's. There are unknowns and holes for sure... but hardly a "bare cupboard".

The guy then totally disregards Peterman who is playing well enough for Jones not to announce Worley the starter in spite of his experience.


Besides that... I really like Dobbs and truly hope he is good enough to beat the other 3 guys out and become a 4 years starter.
 
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I find it laughable when people claim that we must have a DT QB to be effective in Jones' system. Jones has said countless times that he will shape the offense based on the style of his QB. Even though Dobbs is listed as a DT QB, and does have running ability, in reality he's also a Pocket Passer. If you watch his film you can tell that he has a pass first mentality, but he also possesses that extra gear that allows him to escape pressure and make plays with his feet. Ultimately, I think Worley is the guy for 2013. He seems to be impressing the staff, and has made less mistakes in practice compared to Peterman. However, I wouldn't count out Dobbs all together, as he does appear to be a special player. I just don't think this will be his year to shine. Worley and Peterman have the advantage this year.
 
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