Josh Heupel emerges (old thread)

Winning every big game every now and then isn’t exactly high level maintenance. And remember, Iowa State lost to a sunbelt team. As did Kansas State. Just keep it in mind when dismissing Heupel as a HC.
You seriously can’t be comparing Josh Heupel’s record to Matt Campbell and Bill Snyder. LOL
 
I like Heupel.......but not for the Tennessee job......right now.

I’m still hopeful, maybe we will see tomorrow.
 
Yeah . . . if you even slightly look into the details of Central Florida's season, it's not as if there was a mystifying regression. He had a bunch of opt outs and 3 one score losses where they led in the 4th quarter including against Cincinnati.
Then we’ll need to know how many of the teams they played had opt outs, how many, and who they were?
 
Except after they fired Heupel, the Oklahoma offense took off.

He inherited a stacked program at UCF, because the numbers say so. His program and roster were better than everyone else in the conference and most by a long shot.

Not only hasn't he built a program, he has failed to maintain the program he inherited.

Ps they averaged 37ppg when Heupel was fired, 43 with Riley because they scored 20+ more points vs Kansas and Texas Tech the next year. Apparently beating Kansas 44-7 wasn't enough so they went over 60 against them the next year. But that's hardly "taking off". Riley also got Baker Mayfield. Heupel had an injured Trevor Knight who missed 3 games and his backup who was a baseball player who started 3 games that year.
 
Strength of schedule matters when evaluating records. His record has declined in each of his 3 years and this past year, you tout his loss to a “very good Tulsa team” lol, yet this strength of schedule is pretty close to the same as the u defeated season frost has. So even the schedule can’t refute that UCF has regressed under his leadership

Learn how parenthesis work before engaging me, sport.

"UCF was 6-3 in the regular season w/losses to a pretty good Tulsa team, #7 Cincinnati (by 3) and at Memphis (by 1)."

And Tulsa was a pretty good team. Knocked off #19 Coached by Dykes that you've mentioned a few times.
 
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You seriously can’t be comparing Josh Heupel’s record to Matt Campbell and Bill Snyder. LOL

You’re mistaking my meaning. Campbell lost to a G5 school. Iowa State, and K-State under Snyder have historically built the programs by beating lesser competition. K-States run in the old Big 8 was mainly due to other teams being down and Snyder having a large hand In scheduling the teams he wanted to play. Since the reemergence of OU, Okie lite, TCU and others, K-State has been sent back to its place in the pecking order.
Heupel isn’t Matt Campbell nor Bill Snyder in regards to their records but there isn’t really all that much that really separates the 3 other than school names.
 
UCF vs. Florida Atlantic - Game Recap - September 7, 2019 - ESPN

Freshman Gabriel leads No. 18 UCF past FAU 48-14

The Knights (2-0) totaled 574 yards and reached the 30-point mark for the 28th game in a row, the longest such streak since at least 1936. The only thing that stopped them was lightning in the area, which prompted the game to be called with 4:20 to play.

Florida Atlantic (0-2) disappointed a home crowd of 30,811, largest in the program's history.

"That's an embarrassing performance by us," Kiffin said. "It was a big game for a lot of people here, so I apologize to our fans, I apologize to the people who got us here, from the president down."
 
Derek Dooley didn't have any problem as OC at Missouri with Drew Lock either the following year.

Their offense went backwards in 2018. They averaged 308 yards per game and 3.4 passing tds in 2017. 279 yards and 2.2 passing tds in 2018. A 10 percent drop in yardage and a 33 percent decline in tds is pretty big.

At the end of the season Locke had 16 fewer tds and nearly 600 fewer yards than 2017 even though he completed more passes. His QBR dropped by 20 points and his YPA fell by 20 percent.
 
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Ps they averaged 37ppg when Heupel was fired, 43 with Riley because they scored 20+ more points vs Kansas and Texas Tech the next year. Apparently beating Kansas 44-7 wasn't enough so they went over 60 against them the next year. But that's hardly "taking off". Riley also got Baker Mayfield. Heupel had an injured Trevor Knight who missed 3 games and his backup who was a baseball player who started 3 games that year.

Have you noticed how you always make excuses for Heupel in your analysis? Ohh this guy was injured this year and this guy was injured that year. He was fired by his alma mater and the offense improved after he was gone.

He took over a stacked program and it has declined under his watch. I'm sure there are excuses as to why, but it happened.

Hoping this guy can rebuild our program in the SEC, when he has no track record of building anything, is just a leap too far for me. There is no evidence to show he can do it. Will he score a lot of points? Could. But will he rebuild our program and eventually win a lot of games...very good chance he doesn't. So why are we wasting our time with this guy?
 
UCF vs. Florida Atlantic - Game Recap - September 7, 2019 - ESPN

Freshman Gabriel leads No. 18 UCF past FAU 48-14

The Knights (2-0) totaled 574 yards and reached the 30-point mark for the 28th game in a row, the longest such streak since at least 1936. The only thing that stopped them was lightning in the area, which prompted the game to be called with 4:20 to play.

Florida Atlantic (0-2) disappointed a home crowd of 30,811, largest in the program's history.

"That's an embarrassing performance by us," Kiffin said. "It was a big game for a lot of people here, so I apologize to our fans, I apologize to the people who got us here, from the president down."

Impossible! No way he drilled Kiffin's eyes out with equal talent!
 
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UCF vs. Florida Atlantic - Game Recap - September 7, 2019 - ESPN

Freshman Gabriel leads No. 18 UCF past FAU 48-14

The Knights (2-0) totaled 574 yards and reached the 30-point mark for the 28th game in a row, the longest such streak since at least 1936. The only thing that stopped them was lightning in the area, which prompted the game to be called with 4:20 to play.

Florida Atlantic (0-2) disappointed a home crowd of 30,811, largest in the program's history.

"That's an embarrassing performance by us," Kiffin said. "It was a big game for a lot of people here, so I apologize to our fans, I apologize to the people who got us here, from the president down."
I think Heupel is 2-0 against Kiffin
 
Have you noticed how you always make excuses for Heupel in your analysis? Ohh this guy was injured this year and this guy was injured that year. He was fired by his alma mater and the offense improved after he was gone.

He took over a stacked program and it has declined under his watch. I'm sure there are excuses as to why, but it happened.

Hoping this guy can rebuild our program in the SEC, when he has no track record of building anything, is just a leap too far for me. There is no evidence to show he can do it. Will he score a lot of points? Could. But will he rebuild our program and eventually win a lot of games...very good chance he doesn't. So why are we wasting our time with this guy?

Have you noticed you completely ignore facts and context in your analysis?
 
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Have you noticed how you always make excuses for Heupel in your analysis? Ohh this guy was injured this year and this guy was injured that year. He was fired by his alma mater and the offense improved after he was gone.

He took over a stacked program and it has declined under his watch. I'm sure there are excuses as to why, but it happened.

Hoping this guy can rebuild our program in the SEC, when he has no track record of building anything, is just a leap too far for me. There is no evidence to show he can do it. Will he score a lot of points? Could. But will he rebuild our program and eventually win a lot of games...very good chance he doesn't. So why are we wasting our time with this guy?

Dude, reasons are not the same as excuses. Who do you want? Kiffin or Freeze? It's not happening.

I would rather have Chadwell, and that's apparently not going to happen either.
 
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If (and that’s a big if) we settle for Heupel, then fall Saturdays just became a lot more open for me.

If this happens, enjoy fellas. A lot of beat downs coming.

But hey, we get another coaching search in 4 years....so......yay??
 

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