Josh Heupel emerges (old thread)

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WilcoVolsFan said:
Learn how parenthesis work before engaging me, sport.

"UCF was 6-3 in the regular season w/losses to a pretty good Tulsa team, #7 Cincinnati (by 3) and at Memphis (by 1)."

And Tulsa was a pretty good team. Knocked off #19 Coached by Dykes that you've mentioned a few times.
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Its fine if you think Tulsa is a great team but even when you factor in strength of schedule it just affirms the fact that UCF has gotten worse in each of his 3 years. Also, yes I mention Dykes because at least they’ve gotten better. Tennessee needs a coach that at least has demonstrated the ability to improve the situation of a program, considering our state...
 
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OriginalCoach said:
You’re mistaking my meaning. Campbell lost to a G5 school. Iowa State, and K-State under Snyder have historically built the programs by beating lesser competition. K-States run in the old Big 8 was mainly due to other teams being down and Snyder having a large hand In scheduling the teams he wanted to play. Since the reemergence of OU, Okie lite, TCU and others, K-State has been sent back to its place in the pecking order.
Heupel isn’t Matt Campbell nor Bill Snyder in regards to their records but there isn’t really all that much that really separates the 3 other than school names.
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That’s not how Campbell built Iowa st- it’s not a case of just beating lesser competition SEC style. They’ve actually struggled some against weaker teams. They play 10 P5’s a year. Typically have a very good SOS- so it’s tough to do what you’re suggesting
 
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BeardedVol said:
parkerstatement.png

http://tennessee.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Parker-Agreement-HC-Search-2021.pdf
Search firm Tennessee Vols are using once produced Derek Dooley
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Not being used for finding a coach. Believe what you want.
 
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VolInNW said:
If (and that’s a big if) we settle for Heupel, then fall Saturdays just became a lot more open for me.

If this happens, enjoy fellas. A lot of beat downs coming.

But hey, we get another coaching search in 4 years....so......yay??
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If this doesn't happen, we got a lot of beat down coming.

But feel free to F off and pout.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Their offense went backwards in 2018. They averaged 308 yards per game and 3.4 passing tds in 2017. 279 yards and 2.2 passing tds in 2018. A 10 percent drop in yardage and a 33 percent decline in tds is pretty big.

At the end of the season Locke had 16 fewer tds and nearly 600 fewer yards than 2017 even though he completed more passes. His QBR dropped by 20 points and his YPA fell by 20 percent.
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Yeah, they didn't have Missouri State and Idaho on the schedule in 2018 like they did in 2017. 13 of Lock's TDS came against those two garbage teams, along with literally almost 1000 passing yards.
Drew Lock 2017 Game Log | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
 
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FAU football: Here's what Lane Kiffin said when he was asked if he wants Owls to become the next UCF

FAU football: Here’s what Lane Kiffin said when he was asked if he wants Owls to become the next UCF

Kiffin was asked if he believes UCF’s football team has laid the framework for what FAU aspires to be.

“I think it’s a program everyone aspires to be,” Kiffin said. “For us, it’s like we’re playing another SEC or Big Ten team two weeks in a row. They have players like those guys.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Derek Dooley didn't have any problem as OC at Missouri with Drew Lock either the following year.
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2016 under Heupel Missouri was #1 in the SEC in total offense. Nationally they were right behind Clemson. Ahead of Leach. Better than Frost at UCF. So your attempts to discredit Heupel are failing at every turn.

It’s comical though.
 
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WilcoVolsFan said:
Dude, stop. You look silly trying to make the case that Heupel didn't absolutely crush it as OC at Mizzou.
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Yeah, it's not hard to have a good offense with Drew Lock as your QB; even Dooley managed it.

That is one area that Heupel seems to be decent, at he has a pretty good eye for QBs, it's the rest of his recruiting that's questionable. If he's still at UCF for this season we'll find out.
 
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Didn't UCF allow like 40 ppg last season?

Ik they can score but are we just completely abandoning defense?
 
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Fingers said:
“The ink is not on the contract, but Josh Heupel is emerging as the guy with the best shot at this job.” — Austin Price
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AD Danny White has not uttered a word. At some point one of the writers will get it right. Why? Because each writer picks one coach and eventually is just happens by attrition. Relax, it will end soon.
 
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weirdfishes said:
I keep thinking maybe DW is leading us off the trail, but would he really throw his former HC under the bus as a smokescreen? That part doesn't add up to me....
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I’ve never bought into the smokescreen theory in any coaching search regarding any name. What professional administrator is going to deliberately privately leak a coaches name that he may not have any intention of hiring, without any consideration for the coach’s current employment situation, or how the fallout may affect his reputation, assistants, and all of the families involved. And doing all of this without the prior knowledge and consent of the coaches involved. This scenario is blatantly unethical, if not criminal, and I don’t think this practice exists.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
youre right and i agree with you but also our schemes and gameplans have been absolute trash for years. im just excited to hopefully enter into 2021 offense with whoever the offensive mind is that we get.
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Yeah

It would be nice to see TN actually run some of these combo and pick routes with the WRs that other teams have been running.

Pruitt and JG set offensive football back decades the past 3 seasons.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Yeah, it's not hard to have a good offense with Drew Lock as your QB; even Dooley managed it.

That is one area that Heupel seems to be decent, at he has a pretty good eye for QBs, it's the rest of his recruiting that's questionable. If he's still at UCF for this season we'll find out.
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You already got smoked on that argument.

Put down the shovel and just stop.
 
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WilcoVolsFan said:
If you go 12-1 in your first season and your only loss is a bowl game to LSU the year before they win the Natty, it's a bit hard not to suffer a little decline.

His down year, a Covid-season, UCF was 6-3 in the regular season w/losses to a pretty good Tulsa team, #7 Cincinnati (by 3) and at Memphis (by 1). They lost the bowl game to #13 BYU and Zach Wilson, who Kiper has as the second QB off the board at #4 in his current mock draft.

The 23 points by UCF is their lowest total in three years under Heupel and only the second time in his three season at UCF that his team didn't score at least 31 points.
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Also had 10 opt outs in 2020!
 
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