Josh Heupel emerges (old thread)

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I still insist Haupel isn't a serious contender. I honestly think White is just "ginning him up" with a little leak so Haupel can negotiate a contract extension with UCF.

I don't think Haupel has gotten a look from anyone; I'm willing to be wrong, but I don't think he's seen interest from anywhere, and White providing a tiny "White lie" leak about UT interest hurts nothing and might help Haupel's case at UCF. A "parting gift," if you will, from his old boss.
 
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Those of you worried about Heupel's recruiting ability, remember...Doofus, Botch and Cornbread brought in some good/impressive recruiting classes while here. Tennessee sells itself to a large extent. Obviously, they didn't have the ability to develop that talent. With a good staff, Heupel can bring in the same type of classes. Add that we start putting a lot of points on the board with his offense (Bailey and WRs on the roster are more than capable), which we haven't done since Dobbs left, the recruits will be signing.

Admittedly, I was apprehensive when I first heard his name mentioned as a viable possibility. However, considering Tennessee's current status, this is a very logical and reasonable hire that could very well could pay off in the end.

I'm not convinced right now that he is the hire, but if he is, the program is far from dead because of it.
 
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JAL said:
Those of you worried about Heupel's recruiting ability, remember...Doofus, Botch and Cornbread brought in some good/impressive recruiting classes while here. Tennessee sells itself to a large extent. Obviously, they didn't have the ability to develop that talent. With a good staff, Heupel can bring in the same type of classes. Add that we start putting a lot of points on the board with his offense (Bailey and WRs on the roster are more than capable), which we haven't done since Dobbs left, the recruits will be signing.

Admittedly, I was apprehensive when I first heard his name mentioned as a viable possibility. However, considering Tennessee's current status, this is a very logical and reasonable hire that could very well could pay off in the end.

I'm not convinced right now that he is the hire, but if he is, the program is far from dead because of it.
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Ignoring that we just fired our HC and 2 assistants "with cause" and our recruiting office staff....... we have a new AD and NCAA sanctions likely incoming from 50 NCAA violations and a new HC.......

What exactly about Tennessee "sells itself" right now? Seriously, what is attractive to a recruit in 2021 or 2022 or 2023 to UT?

I'm willing to listen, but what?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Ignoring that we just fired our HC and 2 assistants "with cause" and our recruiting office staff....... we have a new AD and NCAA sanctions likely incoming from 50 NCAA violations and a new HC.......

What exactly about Tennessee "sells itself" right now? Seriously, what is attractive to a recruit in 2021 or 2022 or 2023 to UT?

I'm willing to listen, but what?
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Have you ever walked into Neyland Stadium on game day?

Enough said.
 
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JAL said:
Have you ever walked into Neyland Stadium on game day?

Enough said.
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Indeed I have. And Bryant-Denny, and between the hedges at Sanford, among others who WON'T BE FACING NCAA SANCTIONS.

Take off the orange glasses and look at things realistically. UT is going to get hammered.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Ignoring that we just fired our HC and 2 assistants "with cause" and our recruiting office staff....... we have a new AD and NCAA sanctions likely incoming from 50 NCAA violations and a new HC.......

What exactly about Tennessee "sells itself" right now? Seriously, what is attractive to a recruit in 2021 or 2022 or 2023 to UT?

I'm willing to listen, but what?
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playing time
beautiful area
Stadium experience
Winning, hopefully

Calm down man. UT sells itself.
 
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It was a rhetorical question.

You know no more than anyone else what the punishment will be. So it sounds like you're saying it doesn't matter who we get as coach because of the impending punishment? What's your point?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Indeed I have. And Bryant-Denny, and between the hedges at Sanford, among others who WON'T BE FACING NCAA SANCTIONS.

Take off the orange glasses and look at things realistically. UT is going to get hammered.
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It was a rhetorical question.

You know no more than anyone else what the punishment will be. So it sounds like you're saying it doesn't matter who we get as coach because of the impending punishment. What's your point?
 
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turnuptheVOLtage said:
playing time
beautiful area
Stadium experience
Winning, hopefully

Calm down man. UT sells itself.
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I'm calm, but realistic. If you're a young man getting interest from the various SEC schools, choose the one that isn't facing NCAA sanctions.

Am I missing something? Especially if we're limited in kids we can offer the Neyland visit experience to...... as would seem logical with 50 NCAA violations on our tab.

Perhaps you don't understand NCAA sanctions? They limit scholarships, visits, evaluations, contact, etc. It's not a pretty recruiting picture.
 
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JAL said:
It was a rhetorical question.

You know no more than anyone else what the punishment will be. So it sounds like you're saying it doesn't matter who we get as coach because of the impending punishment. What's your point?
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My point is EXACTLY that. Recruiting is going to suck for a couple of years. We fired our HC and 2 assistants WITH CAUSE and our entire recruiting office staff AND our Chancellor and President said "we were stunned by the extent of the violations."

That I'm expecting big-time NCAA sanctions is surprising to you? Why?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm calm, but realistic. If you're a young man getting interest from the various SEC schools, choose the one that isn't facing NCAA sanctions.

Am I missing something? Especially if we're limited in kids we can offer the Neyland visit experience to...... as would seem logical with 50 NCAA violations on our tab.

Perhaps you don't understand NCAA sanctions? They limit scholarships, visits, evaluations, contact, etc. It's not a pretty recruiting picture.
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Pretty sure all that would be on the table here is a simple bowl ban for 1-2 years and maybe a loss of 20 scholarships over 4 years. No one got caught with underage females, unregistered guns, or cocaine here. It’s really not going to be something program ending, especially since we are a top 5 revenue football program. Yes, some kids will rule us out, but not all of the talent. There are still a ton of talented kids out there, and only so many desirable SEC schools with open spots.
 
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Why?

12-1, 10-3, 6-4

If UT spends all those $millions for an AD that brings us a coach that is running down another program, and that is Huepel's record, we should immediately replace him with a monkey and a dart board.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So the guy has exciting offenses at UCF. But if he comes here we are doomed? VN is retarded.
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Agreed. Tons of people wanted Frost during our last search but not Heupel.Frost was 19-7 at UCF and Heupel is 28-8..So why Frost and not Heupel. I swear some of these fans are worse than some of the Bammer and Auburn fans I deal with on the regular. Makes no damn sense. I love my Vols but some of these fans are the reason why our fanbase is considered one of the most annoying and ignorant around. Just seeing some of the fans on here and Tritter it's definitely warranted. Atleast the stupid Bammer and Tiger fans are the same year around and not bipolar as hell. Takes a few fans to ruin it for the rest of us.
 
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** Reposting this because our fans obviously won’t lookup the context surrounding his tenure so far at UCF:

2018- 12-1
-Gave LSU all they wanted in NY6 game. Lost 40-32 back when LSU had a sick defense.
-Also lost star QB, Milton McKenzie, last regular season game. Still won conference championship over a really good Memphis team.
-Destroyed Pitt by 5 TDs.
-I don't care what level or talent you have if you go 12-1 against really good conference competition you can coach. That doesn't just happen.

2019- had to play a freshman with no McKenzie and he ate.... went 10-3.
-Beat Stanford by 3 TDs
-Lost to Pitt by 1 @ Pitt who had a stacked NFL player loaded defense and still dropped 34 points losing by 1.
-Lost to a really good Cincy team @ Cincy by a FG
-Lost @ Tulsa by a FG.
-Destroyed Marshall in bowl game by 4 TDs.

Again a freshman QB and averaged 43.3 PPG.

2020- 6-4

-Posters ITT telling me they had around 10 players opt out
-Destroyed Georgia Tech 49-21
-Lost to a really good Tulsa team by a TD. Tulsa lost to Ok State by 9, Miss State by 2 and Cincy by 3.
-Lost to Memphis by 1 point
-Lost to Cincy by 3 who turned out to be a Top 10 team in the country. Scored 33 on that Luke Fickell defense.
-Lost bowl game to a buzzsaw BYU team with a QB who is about to go Top 5.

Averaged 41 PPG.
 
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golfballs said:
Its fine if you think Tulsa is a great team but even when you factor in strength of schedule it just affirms the fact that UCF has gotten worse in each of his 3 years. Also, yes I mention Dykes because at least they’ve gotten better. Tennessee needs a coach that at least has demonstrated the ability to improve the situation of a program, considering our state...
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But Dykes started at ground zero. With any skill at all they had to improve, so not apples to apples.
 
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turnuptheVOLtage said:
Pretty sure all that would be on the table here is a simple bowl ban for 1-2 years and maybe a loss of 20 scholarships over 4 years. No one got caught with underage females, unregistered guns, or cocaine here. It’s really not going to be something program ending, especially since we are a top 5 revenue football program. Yes, some kids will rule us out, but not all of the talent. There are still a ton of talented kids out there, and only so many desirable SEC schools with open spots.
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What part of "fired our entire recruiting office staff" and "we were stunned by the extent of the involvement" quote from Chancellor Plowman makes you think the recruiting office at UT is in any place to contact these talented kids?

White's issues in securing a coach are, I'd wager, in the fact that we FIRED OUR ENTIRE RECRUITING OFFICE STAFF. Imagine that. Zero recruiting infrastructure in place....... nothing..... burnt to the ground....... HC gone, major recruiting assistant coaches gone, entire recruiting staff gone......

You guys still want to say: yeah, but running through the T........

A little reality, please. Just a little reality.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
What part of "fired our entire recruiting office staff" and "we were stunned by the extent of the involvement" quote from Chancellor Plowman makes you think the recruiting office at UT is in any place to contact these talented kids?

White's issues in securing a coach are, I'd wager, in the fact that we FIRED OUR ENTIRE RECRUITING OFFICE STAFF. Imagine that. Zero recruiting infrastructure in place....... nothing..... burnt to the ground....... HC gone, major recruiting assistant coaches gone, entire recruiting staff gone......

You guys still want to say: yeah, but running through the T........

A little reality, please. Just a little reality.
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Yeah so we’re just never going to find replacements for our recruiting staff... right. Calm down man 😂
 
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