Josh Heupel the new Spurrier?

#51
#51
Spurrier got satisfaction from getting a reaction out of people. Heupel seems to Just enjoy competing and winning. He is having the time of his life out there and it is infectious. The team picks up on it and plays their hearts out for someone like that.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Says the guy who said Mullen was better also 😂😂😂
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I’m not sure I said “Mullen is better.” But Mullen did start 29-6 at Florida and had won 2 NY6 Bowls in his first 3 years. We were pretty happy with that.

But things changed, obviously.
 
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Jaws said:
He does? Spurrier was 19-4 after his first two seasons at Florida. Huepel is 12-6 at TN, right?
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Josh Heupel has been a head coach almost 4.5 seasons. Five games into his fifth year. In those 4.5 years, he is 40-14 (.741)

Steve Spurrier was, at five games into his fifth season as head coach, 33-16-1 (.670)

So yep, Heupel has a better winning pct at this point in his career. @Rickyvol77 nailed it.


[we are talking about coaches, not programs. right?]
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Josh Heupel has been a head coach almost 4.5 seasons. Five games into his fifth year. In those 4.5 years, he is 40-14 (.741)

Steve Spurrier was, at five games into his fifth season as head coach, 33-16-1 (.670)

So yep, Heupel has a better winning pct at this point in his career. @Rickyvol77 nailed it.


[we are talking about coaches, not programs. right?]
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Oh, so counting Spurrier’s Duke record? 🤣

Ok, you got me. He’s better than Spurrier. Hell, he’s better than Saban too. Saban was 34-24 at Michigan State.
 
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Jaws said:
Oh, so counting Spurrier’s Duke record? 🤣

Ok, you got me. He’s better than Spurrier. Hell, he’s better than Saban too. Saban was 34-24 at Michigan State.
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Now you're starting to come around.

Jaws, honestly. You've seen how much of a primal force Heupel has our offense working. What do you think is going to be happening in two or three years when we're rich on defensive talent, and even deeper on offense?

Over the next half-decade, Josh Heupel is going to (a) make Saban retire, (b) make Smart look distinctly Richt-ish, (c) make Florida fire Napier, and (d) chase Kiffin, Sarkasian, Venables, and other high-maintenance ego-driven coaches off to the PAC and B10. He's probably not stopping with one or two national titles; we're talking Neyland levels of dominance ahead.

And looking even further into the future, it won't let up until everyone starts emulating him, and football turns into open-field basketball. Scores in the 80-to-65 range, almost no play stoppage, and football physiques shifting distinctly toward soccer/distance runner builds. Think ultimate frisbee with a football.*

Strap in, young man, this is not your daddy's SEC we're heading into.


* okay, that's an exaggeration, heh. But to a milder extent, this is the future of American football we're probably looking at.
 
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I'm sorry at what point has Heupel thrown a red headed step child tantrum where he assaulted perfectly good head wear, and caused his own QB to need a lifetime counseling? If he's been talking trash I haven't heard it, so he's not like Spurrier a'tall yet. I for one am glad of that. Let us not speak of that arrogant born FL reptile to Johnson City transplant and him in the same breath again. That scar runs deep in the tri cities and some are still raw about it.
 
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Jaws said:
Oh, so counting Spurrier’s Duke record? 🤣

Ok, you got me. He’s better than Spurrier. Hell, he’s better than Saban too. Saban was 34-24 at Michigan State.
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Yea I’d try to backtrack too after I came to another team’s board because my coach sucks
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Now you're starting to come around.

Jaws, honestly. You've seen how much of a primal force Heupel has our offense working. What do you think is going to be happening in two or three years when we're rich on defensive talent, and even deeper on offense?

Over the next half-decade, Josh Heupel is going to (a) make Saban retire, (b) make Smart look distinctly Richt-ish, (c) make Florida fire Napier, and (d) chase Kiffin, Sarkasian, Venables, and other high-maintenance ego-driven coaches off to the PAC and B10. He's probably not stopping with one or two national titles; we're talking Neyland levels of dominance ahead.

And looking even further into the future, it won't let up until everyone starts emulating him, and football turns into open-field basketball. Scores in the 80-to-65 range, almost no play stoppage, and football physiques shifting distinctly toward soccer/distance runner builds. Think ultimate frisbee with a football.*

Strap in, young man, this is not your daddy's SEC we're heading into.


* okay, that's an exaggeration, heh. But to a milder extent, this is the future of American football we're probably looking at.
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JP, it's not even the football we grew up with. College football today is what I call "slide-rule football." Up and down the field with little more than a speed bump in terms of defensive play. Offensive execution, in conjunction with a plethora of rules that put defenders on distinctly uneven footing, is at such a level that all you ultimately have to do in order to win from a defensive standpoint is force 1-2 more punts, create 1-2 more turnovers, give up 1-2 more field goals rather than touchdowns, etc.

On one level, I really don't like it. SEC football was, for a long time smash-mouth, win-in-the-trenches pigskinery. It was the sport that led Neyland to regard football as a war game. On the other hand, I love finally having an offense that can give the Oregons, Baylors, and every other trend-setter in offensive execution a serious run for their money.

This brand of football is also forcing coaches to be much too aggressive in making fourth-down decisions on whether to punt or go for it. On LSU's last possession of the first half, it was absolutely foolish not to punt. They had an excellent chance of bottling us up deep. Instead, with 23 seconds left, they gave us a short field to work with and the opportunity to tack on another field goal, after which we turned around and opened the second half with a touchdown to put the game out of reach for all practical purposes.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Josh Heupel has been a head coach almost 4.5 seasons. Five games into his fifth year. In those 4.5 years, he is 40-14 (.741)

Steve Spurrier was, at five games into his fifth season as head coach, 33-16-1 (.670)

So yep, Heupel has a better winning pct at this point in his career. @Rickyvol77 nailed it.


[we are talking about coaches, not programs. right?]
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Also, using this logic, Billy Napier is better than all of them; Spurrier, Huepel, Saban, etc.

Napier is 44-14 overall, or a .759 winning %.

Of course I don’t believe that, but you get the point. Flawed logic.
 
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Having a Spurrier is much more fun when he is coaching our team.

I hated Fulmer keeping quiet while Spurrier couldn't keep our name out of his mouth.
 
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Jaws said:
Also, using this logic, Billy Napier is better than all of them; Spurrier, Huepel, Saban, etc.

Napier is 44-14 overall, or a .759 winning %.

Of course I don’t believe that, but you get the point. Flawed logic.
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Lmao Napier just like Mullen
 
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Nope. Kiff was our version of Spurrier. Heupel doesn’t run his mouth or run opponents down. He simply beats the tar out of them on the field, shakes the opposing coach’s hand, and immediately begins the prep to take down the next victim. I like Heups approach much better. Compliment them whilst wiping the floor with them
 
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Heupel is a much nicer guy than Spurrier. Also so far Kirby is a nemesis Heupel has yet to overcome. Turned our otherwise Superman-like offense back into Clark Kent two years in a row.
 
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Jaws said:
Also, using this logic, Billy Napier is better than all of them; Spurrier, Huepel, Saban, etc.

Napier is 44-14 overall, or a .759 winning %.

Of course I don’t believe that, but you get the point. Flawed logic.
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Not ALL of them:
Kirby after 5 years 52-14 (.788)
Kirby now 79-15. (.840)

ESPN.com: NCF - Steve Spurrier's career record.

BTW, what is Napier's winning percentage now after that beatdown by the Pac 12 yesterday?
 
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sunnyvol79 said:
I think he is to the SEC now what Spurrier was in the 90’s with his fun and gun. Nobody can figure out how to stop his offense and it carried over from last season to this season which proves that. Dude is a offensive genius and we have beat Florida and LSU actually dominated them without our best WR in Tillman. Just imagine when Nico gets here and even more talent comes in with the recruiting classes. It’s simply amazing what he has done in 1 and half seasons turning things around. I just hope Danny White pays him well so he will stick around he’s def earning his money now and then some. I will admit I was skeptical of the Heup hire and wanted a bigger name like James Franklin boy am I glad I was wrong.
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Ga and south Carolina say they can stop our offense
 
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Josh Heupel the new Spurrier?

Hmmm, took a minute or two to digest this with my hearty breakfast this morning but, you might be onto something. Of all the coaches in the SEC since the 70s, it is MY opinion that Spurrier was the top minded offensive head coach. That bastard knew our defenses like he had drawn them up himself. He attacked us at our most vulnerable positions and the majority of the years, his talent on the field was at best equal to ours. He was a superior coach and that made the difference far too often.
CJH is following in his footsteps. Our talent on the field was strong this year but, certainly not overpowering and totally intimidating. However, CJH and his staff never stopped attacking and finding soft spots in the opposing team defenses, even if it was merely endurance of the players. And as for defense, I have lauded the stunts, blitzes and creativeness of our D all year long. Once again, not the best talent on the field but, our coaches coached up and hey, look at us now, we are 10-2 and headed to the Orange Bowl. Orange you glad to be a Vol??
 
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