Joshua Dobbs progress thread

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Ok, I know he is young and almost fresh on campus, but I am not nearly sold on Dobbs being our qb of the future.....I am hoping he can help prove me wrong today against Vandy which has plenty of holes to exploit. The main thing I have been dissapointed with so far is the lack of touch and abillity to hit deep balls....I am hoping it has been more of a timing issue than anything...but so far he has not shown good deep ball abillity...there have been some big drops, but still, you know something must be wrong when Worely looks better throwing a deep ball.

Also, Dobbs inabillity to get it into the endzone is very very alarming...there was really no excuse against Auburn...our running game was pretty effective and AUs secondary is hardly elite......a talented passer should have produced at least one td throw throughout this 3 game stretch.

I hope Dobbs can prove me wrong, but if he falls to connect on any deep throws this game and can't reach the endzone at least once then I think it will be time for Ferguson to show what he is capable of.
 
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cyclonevol87 said:
Look who Dobbs has played against that has something to do with it.
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A deep ball is a deep ball regardless of who you are playing...so far he has only thrown one or two that looked even close accurate....and don't act like Auburns pass defense is anywhere close to elite....Murray without any wrs carved them up for over 400 yards and plenty of average qbs have also had a lot of success against them.....not to mention, I am not sensing any killer instinctive from Dobbs....something that Ferguson reportedly possesses......
 
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Great Odin's raven!!!!!!!!















These threads are back. Lets see you play your first games against top 10 teams and in front of massive audiences. wait wait, lets just see if you can even play qb period. Deep ball is not just a deep ball. If they were that easy then every team would just hail mary every play. /thread
 
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He is a true Freshmen give me a break did you think he was going to go out there and throw the ball all over the field this is the SEC,he will get better.
 
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fade route said:
This. True freshman on the road against #1 Bama, #9 Mizzou, and then at home vs #7 Auburn. Yeah, competition MAY have something to do with it.
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NO! He has had a couple weeks to be a starter, sure he was 4th on the depth chart, but he should easily have Won those games against those chump teams!


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crunchimusmaximus said:
A deep ball is a deep ball regardless of who you are playing...
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So I am guessing u have never played even a little football ..I have and I'll make it clear for you
A deep ball is not a deep ball regardless of who you are playing..your accuracy has to do a lot with
1) How much time you had to throw it, opposing teams DL have a say in it
2) How good are their corners: If their corners are covering our WRs pretty good throughout the game, you tend to over or under throw it unconsciously ...Its easy to throw when your WRs are wide open
3) How good are your WRs: If your WRs keep dropping it (like ours), it plays in your scheme. Deep balls are not the most accurate ones ...WRs also have to play their part so make them amazing (Hunter-Bray combo) ..So if WRs keep dropping it , QBs throws look bad

How do I know this
1) Common Sense
2) Played QB at a division III school (Not a starter but it paid for my degree wohooo)
 
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People that give him flak thus far amaze me. The kid has had to start his first 3 games all against top 10 talent. He's inexperienced, his WR are inexperienced. Yet, some think he should of been lighting these teams up. It's comical.
 
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there's a huge difference in saying Dobbs should have led Tennessee to victory against Bama, Mizzou and Aubie vs Dobbs should have been able to find the end zone. So many on here are ready to crown Dobbs as the future of the program, but really, what has he shown so far? A wildly inaccurate arm, inability to check down and the idea to run as soon as any footsteps are heard. I don't see what's so great about him. The OP has made some really stupid posts before, but this is one is spot on. What has Dobbs done so far? Nothing. Now he finally gets a shot against a team that is at best on equal talent. If he doesn't look good here, I don't see how anyone can be riding the Dobbs is the future wagon.
 
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I think this game more than the last two will show us where we are in regards to eVOLving. The reason I say this is Vandy has less talent but I think Franklin has developed them more. We have more talent but the Dools never developed them. Therefore, I think we will finally see what kind of coaches and game planning we can expect for the foreseeable future. We have had weeks to prepare for a team comparable to us, in as far as, being able to go to head to head (painful to say). The team has had more time to gel and get experience. If we lay an egg and have predictable play calling I for one will be a little concerned. I hope the fear off losing out on a bowl game does not make them play or coach conservative or timid. Put it all on the line.
 
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BornOrange33 said:
People that give him flak thus far amaze me. The kid has had to start his first 3 games all against top 10 talent. He's inexperienced, his WR are inexperienced. Yet, some think he should of been lighting these teams up. It's comical.
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Most of you talked a lot different when He got the start.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Dobbs play is indicative of the play calling

When the play calling gets better, his game will improve
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Dobbs' inability to check down his receivers is indicative of play calling? Dobbs' wildly inaccurate arm on anything over a 5 yard pass is indicative of play calling?
 
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Dobbs hasn't done anything impressive. Compare him to Brent Schaffer and then realize Schaffer wan't even the best true freshman on the team that year.
 
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volfanbill said:
there's a huge difference in saying Dobbs should have led Tennessee to victory against Bama, Mizzou and Aubie vs Dobbs should have been able to find the end zone. So many on here are ready to crown Dobbs as the future of the program, but really, what has he shown so far? A wildly inaccurate arm, inability to check down and the idea to run as soon as any footsteps are heard. I don't see what's so great about him. The OP has made some really stupid posts before, but this is one is spot on. What has Dobbs done so far? Nothing. Now he finally gets a shot against a team that is at best on equal talent. If he doesn't look good here, I don't see how anyone can be riding the Dobbs is the future wagon.
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Exactly...I am not saying I don't believe in Dobbs because he couldn't beat top 10 teams......Volnation is the ultimate group of blind loyalists and excuse makers. The kid has shown very little so far besides an abillity to scramble.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Exactly...I am not saying I don't believe in Dobbs because he couldn't beat top 10 teams......Volnation is the ultimate group of blind loyalists and excuse makers. The kid has shown very little so far besides an abillity to scramble.
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Exactly most QBs you can tell pretty early whether they have it or don't and I for one think this game will tell us a lot.
 
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BornOrange33 said:
People that give him flak thus far amaze me. The kid has had to start his first 3 games all against top 10 talent. He's inexperienced, his WR are inexperienced. Yet, some think he should of been lighting these teams up. It's comical.
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BornOrange33 said:
I never said he was the future of Tennessee but I'm not going to sit here and say that he's not based off the teams he's had to play against thus far.
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ok then. Do you see the VAST difference in your two posts here?
 
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volfanbill said:
Dobbs' inability to check down his receivers is indicative of play calling? Dobbs' wildly inaccurate arm on anything over a 5 yard pass is indicative of play calling?
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Coaches have asked alot of him against 2 top 10 teams in the country. For example the deep cross against the grain vs Auburn that was picked off. Granted, he didn't have to throw it, but asking a true freshman to make that throw in the first place is a bit much. We've seen his best attributes currently are to run the read option well and throw the 5-10 yard passes on the money, so why aren't we seeing more of that to set up the deep ball and not vice versa? Coaches need to do a better job protecting him, and he'll hit that deep ball eventually. Heck, he should've already hit a few if our receivers would have judged the ball correctly (North vs Mizzou and the non-PI deep ball called against Auburn). JMO.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Exactly...I am not saying I don't believe in Dobbs because he couldn't beat top 10 teams......Volnation is the ultimate group of blind loyalists and excuse makers. The kid has shown very little so far besides an abillity to scramble.
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Im not saying hes the next Peyton but lets give him a little time to show what he can do if this was his 11th start of the season I would agree with you buy not after his 2nd start.
 
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fade route said:
This. True freshman on the road against #1 Bama, #9 Mizzou, and then at home vs #7 Auburn. Yeah, competition MAY have something to do with it.
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This can't be. According to most posters on the board we should see more results and should have beaten at least 2 top ten teams. Players suck and coach sucks. You need to be more negitive
 
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