Julian Phillips drafted at 35

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turbovol said:
You're basically right--I too find the NBA game boring for much the same reasons. Look at Williams: He HAD to become a 3-point shooter to stay in the league--and to his great credit, he did. He shoots right at 40 percent from the 3-line. There is a lot of talk that the Celtics might let him go now, or sign and trade him, after getting Porzingis, but there are said to be at least 3/4 teams interested in Williams if Boston doesn't sign him to an extension.

College teams now emulate NBA offenses, alas: 3 or 4 guys who stand around the 3-line perimeter, waiting to get a kick-out pass so they can shoot the 3.
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Grant Williams had to become a 3 point shooter because there is no way in hell he could continue to play bully ball in the NBA. Grant has great footwork,. motor and strength but at 6'6 there was no way to continue to play his college style. It has less to do with the style of game in the NBA and more to do with the size/talent.
 
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omghulkhands said:
There is no such thing as a 45% tax bracket

Also, the tax rate is marginal and he isn’t paid as a lump sum. So his take home would be a good bit higher than you’ve posited here.
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It was just an estimate. Sorry I think I meant 35% the points are still valid. The money would have been there later with a better developed skill set.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
The tax bracket you’re in doesn’t apply to your entire salary. It only applies to the amount you make above whatever threshold for the bracket each year. With a salary that high, it doesn’t make as big a difference so your number is probably pretty close. Just a PSA about how taxes work since I’ve seen a lot of people get confused about that.
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Thanks.
 
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Here's a post-draft analysis from the athletic

Analysis, fits for all 58 NBA Draft picks from John Hollinger and Sam Vecenie

35. Chicago Bulls (via Wizards, Celtics, Blazers)
Julian Phillips | 6-foot-7, forward | 19 years old | Tennessee
Vecenie’s ranking: 33.

Phillips is such an interesting bet because the defense is terrific already, and at lower levels, the offense has shown the exact skill set that he needs to be successful. Phillips clearly has real touch. He made about 37 percent from 3 in 2021-22, combining his AAU and high school stats. And yet, his offensive performance at Tennessee was so disastrous that it’s hard to buy him as a real shooter. And this wasn’t really a situation where you can blame an archaic collegiate offense. Phillips simply missed a lot of open looks and missed them badly in many cases. It comes down to believing that you can fix the shot and put some strength on Phillips’ frame.

Hollinger’s analysis: This pick goes from Boston to Washington to Chicago and lands the Bulls one of my highest rated players left, Phillips. He’s a bit of a project offensively but he’s a good athlete with size who could become a very good defender in time. One concern is the overlap between Philips and last year’s first-rounder, Dalen Terry.
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volKano said:
Not really. The problem with the NBA is the entire regular season is just to prepare for the playoffs. Too many rest days and the organization has determined that it’s ok to lose regular season games. I used to think the same thing comparing the 80’s vs todays game but watching the past few years I see todays players are so much better as a whole. Some of the shots look sloppy at times but it’s because there are no open jump shots anymore. You Have to be able to step back and pull the trigger with someone all over you.
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I've tried watching just way to boring for me. A few guys seem like they are going through the motions to get a check. I try to watch and just end up switching channel. Its not for everybody but it is better than the WNBA which is losing millions a year but being propped up because, someone decided its the right thing to do.
 
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Delmar said:
Was it just me or did 75% of the draftees last night look like they need to eat some taters and biscuits and gravy? Every one that I saw looked like they are on a starvation diet. I guess the NBA isn’t looking for bruisers anymore.
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They’re even skinnier than they look on TV…I was at the father/son camp at UT last Sunday (it was amazing BTW…I highly recommend it)…I’m telling you, even the ones who look thicker on TV (James, Z, Mayshack) are very thin…

I’ve run into college and NBA players a few times in my life and I’m always been blown away by how tall and thin they are
 
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tennrich1 said:
I know some are big NBA fans but I'd have to agree with you. I am an avid sports fan (and consider myself to be fairly ept at understanding most games) but I haven't been able to watch more than a quarter of NBA ball for some time. TO ME...it is incredibly boring and simply unorganized chaos. Again...TO ME... that's what it appears. For years I had a close friend whose best friend was a former NBA player and did radio nightly for an NBA team. Can't tell you the times he called with tickets (good seats too) and I just had to be honest and encourage him to invite someone else. I simply had so many other things I KNEW I would enjoy more. Again...THAT'S JUST ME!
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I have barely missed any Tennessee televised basketball games in the last 30 to 35 years but could count on one hand the number of NBA games I've watched. It just does nothing for me. When I was a kid I was a Hawks fan and watched them on TBS. That just gradually died after they traded Dominique.
 
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thunder5 said:
They’re even skinnier than they look on TV…I was at the father/son camp at UT last Sunday (it was amazing BTW…I highly recommend it)…I’m telling you, even the ones who look thicker on TV (James, Z, Mayshack) are very thin…

I’ve run into college and NBA players a few times in my life and I’m always been blown away by how tall and thin they are
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Bro, Mayshack is anything but "thin."
 
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ColinS said:
I have barely missed any Tennessee televised basketball games in the last 30 to 35 years but could count on one hand the number of NBA games I've watched. It just does nothing for me. When I was a kid I was a Hawks fan and watched them on TBS. That just gradually died after they traded Dominique.
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Describes me exactly! I grew (many years ago) watching the Celtics and Lakers (Russell, Havlicek, West, Chamberlain etc) and loved it. The game today doesn’t resemble that at all.
 
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jeff1vol said:
This is EXACTLY why the NBA is virtually unwatchable now. The 3pt line has RUINED the pro game. There is little to ZERO paint game any longer and players like G. Williams are barely hanging on. It's either a 3pt shot or a dunk. Boring.
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You clearly do not watch NBA basketball. Teams average over 50 points in the paint per game
 
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jmcarr33 said:
You clearly do not watch NBA basketball. Teams average over 50 points in the paint per game
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How is that 50 distributed between drive and dunk, fast breaks, and posting up? Are 12-15 footers from the wing excluded as “in the paint” scoring.

I do agree with jeff1 that too much emphasis on 3-point offenses has made basketball less watchable. At this point I doubt that much could be done to de-emphasize NBA 3-point offenses. It’s trickling down to the NCAA level. The NCAA could move the line out a little (I wish they would go ahead and at least put it at the NBA distance), but the NBA would have to take away cornet 3s to move the entire 3PL farther out.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
How is that 50 distributed between drive and dunk, fast breaks, and posting up? Are 12-15 footers from the wing excluded as “in the paint” scoring.

I do agree with jeff1 that too much emphasis on 3-point offenses has made basketball less watchable. At this point I doubt that much could be done to de-emphasize NBA 3-point offenses. It’s trickling down to the NCAA level. The NCAA could move the line out a little (I wish they would go ahead and at least put it at the NBA distance), but the NBA would have to take away cornet 3s to move the entire 3PL farther out.
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I hear you but there’s still plenty of action in the paint. It’s not all dunks and fast breaks but of course those account for some of the numbers. If you watch regularly you would change your opinion. Of course it’s not like the 80’s/90’s but all sports evolve and there’s still plenty of “old school” play to appreciate if you like that style. Not sure if you recall but for quite some time the NBA was extremely boring with teams clearing half the floor to run isolation plays. It’s much better now than those days in my opinion.
 
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jmcarr33 said:
I hear you but there’s still plenty of action in the paint. It’s not all dunks and fast breaks but of course those account for some of the numbers. If you watch regularly you would change your opinion. Of course it’s not like the 80’s/90’s but all sports evolve and there’s still plenty of “old school” play to appreciate if you like that style. Not sure if you recall but for quite some time the NBA was extremely boring with teams clearing half the floor to run isolation plays. It’s much better now than those days in my opinion.
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The NCAA was getting pretty boring when the highly skilled 7’ center was a near necessity to contend. Lew Alcindor. Bill Walton. Patrick Ewing. Ralph Samson. Hakeem. Sam Bowie. Melvin Turpin. Robey/Phillips. Shaq/Stanley. Unfortunately for TN, over the 3 years of Ernie and Bernie, the center was 6’6” (shorter than Bernard at 6’7”) in the first 2 years and Reggie Johnson hadn’t put on much weight as a freshman in year 3 (plus he was average height for a center - 6’9”).
 
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It wouldn’t bother me if the 3-point line was eliminated entirely and the painted area was about 3 feet wider coupled with the 3-second calls being enforced.
 
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ImAngryDave said:
He got drafted , and absolutely did NOTHING for Tennessee. He wasn’t even one of the best 5 players on the team .
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Sadly true. His impact was minimal at best. He just wasn't a good fit and at times seemed overcoached.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
The tax bracket you’re in doesn’t apply to your entire salary. It only applies to the amount you make above whatever threshold for the bracket each year. With a salary that high, it doesn’t make as big a difference so your number is probably pretty close. Just a PSA about how taxes work since I’ve seen a lot of people get confused about that.
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Half are road games contingent upon various state and local taxes because you’re taxed on where income is earned. Most teams are in higher tax urban areas in states and cities that impose income tax so unless you’re playing for a select few teams (Grizz/Heat/Mavs/Spurs) tax rates aren’t going to be terribly different between teams.
 
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ImAngryDave said:
He got drafted , and absolutely did NOTHING for Tennessee. He wasn’t even one of the best 5 players on the team .
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He and Barnes just weren’t a good fit in the end. That’s not an insult to either of them. Barnes is a really good coach, and Phillips is going to be a good pro imo whether it be in the NBA or overseas. Sometimes a player’s personality just doesn’t mesh with how he’s coached.
 
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BisonVol said:
Let’s get rid of the shot clock while we’re at it. Basketball fans everywhere are craving the return of the 4 corners offense.
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I wouldn’t mind going back to the original 45 second NCAA shot clock. I have a long enough attention span to enjoy a more strategic game.
 
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UTFanHades said:
Half are road games contingent upon various state and local taxes because you’re taxed on where income is earned. Most teams are in higher tax urban areas in states and cities that impose income tax so unless you’re playing for a select few teams (Grizz/Heat/Mavs/Spurs) tax rates aren’t going to be terribly different between teams.
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That’s true, but I was just pointing out the difference between marginal and effective tax rate since people seem to get that confused a lot (and it applies regardless of state/federal).
 
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jmcarr33 said:
You clearly do not watch NBA basketball. Teams average over 50 points in the paint per game
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Havent watched an entire game in YEARS. Ive tried... and fell asleep every time. Nothing but jacking up 3's. Let me know the next time you see a sweet mid-range jump shot.
 
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